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- Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1
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Still 720p for now but I'm doing the 35mm cleanup at 1080p for a bit of future-proofing.
Still 720p for now but I'm doing the 35mm cleanup at 1080p for a bit of future-proofing.
As with ESB, I don't have one definitive reference but it will be mostly TN1's scans for the scenes I have and Puggo's ROTP for the rest, while still checking the color-boosted GOUT since I think the Jedi PAL GOUT is much better than the other two films in terms of color as well.
In this clip it's just a quick and dirty one-setting-for-the-whole-sequence kind of deal - it will need some fine tuning.
Only the changed shots are from the scan, rest is regraded BD.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0dtCY1O9WXzRF9WR09VUHJqVHM/view?usp=sharing
Here's another little work-in-progress clip to celebrate one thousand likes on the FB page :-)
Again, big thanks to Team Negative 1 for the raw footage!
Sure, I don't have a problem with that - although, once you zoom it in you pretty much get to the resolution of DVD, (the resolution without the black bars is 1280:540) so I'm not sure there's much of a point to even make it an HD file.
It's from the Thrawn Trilogy, so yes it's from the EU, but the really good part ;-)
I really do love it! I always wanted to make a box like that myself but never got around to it :-)
Holy shit! That's awesome.
I don't really think those sabers look like the originals - they have the look (if not the color) of the 2004 re-composites - the thickness of the cores actually seems to be quite correct in the 2004 master and we're only used to thicker cores, because most of the home video releases of the original had their whites blown out but it's more about the edges of the glows being too well defined, where from what I've seen they were much more feathered in the original.
My parents also still have a VCR connected to the old huge CRT in my brother's room and my little brother still watches a lot of old cartoons and stuff on VHS.
I was thinking about getting a second-hand VCR, because I thought it would be cool to be able to play some of my old Star Wars VHS tapes but my monitor only has HDMI and VGA, so I'd have no way to connect it.
Well, that doesn't tell you what version it will be, does it?
Yeah, no, the specs will stay the same.
How do you know what kind of version Reliance is doing?
Well, I think I'll still leave in some things like the wipes but will definitelly try and get rid of the recomped fx shots.
CatBus said:
Harmy said:
Well, if there's ever a full 35mm HD scan of Star Wars made available to me, then yes, definitely (unless of course the scan already looks better than the official BD, which certainly isn't inconceivable).
You're not getting off the hook that easy, mister ;)
IMO, there's still a place for the DeEd's (or something like it), even under this scenario. It's quite likely a great-quality 35mm scan would still benefit from many things you could do:
- GOUT sync (and with that, all of our great audio options)
- Cleanup/cue mark removal
- Improved color timing to better match our best color references (Technicolor, etc)
- Stabilization
I assume that if a 35mm print was scanned, the "theatrical experience" would be well-preserved, but there are some things commonly done to films for home video that I think are nice to have.
Frankly, much of this would probably need to be done even if Disney themselves did a respectful transfer of Star Wars, so I don't see how it would be all that different if someone else did one.
Yes, but that is a job for someone else ;)
CatBus said:
I noticed the Episode V crawl doesn't appear to have as much "light bleed" around the letters in the Grindhouse release. Could this just be due to the brightness/color balance being different, or is this really sharper than the Blu-ray/DeEdv2 crawl? If it is, I wonder what they did during the transfer to make it bleed like that.
I'm pretty sure it's just the levels and color difference.
Also, I think in this case, waiting for v2.5 will definitely be worth it.
Oh :-) Yeah - no GOUT :-)
Huh?
Well, if they wanted to make it a surprise... But if it is the new restoration, since they seem to be planning on projecting it after the 3D prequels, that would seem to be pointing to a new 4K remastered SE, rather than the OOT.
Or maybe just mo-cap?
It took me several hours to do that shot (though, granted, I was still figuring it out) and it does have some side-effects, which I think are ok for despecialized, because they appear on the BD Lowry transfer as well but I think a different approach will be better for cleaning up the whole thing and I'm sure Team N1's final result will be fantastic, especially since they are working from some cleaner and less faded prints now (making the colors look good for the whole movie using just the grindhouse release would also be a very problematic task).
"Attendees will be able to view the entire Prequel Trilogy in 3D (along with the Original Trilogy in non-3D) over the course of the four day event."
It's funny how they refer to 2D as non-3D. :-D
Also, could this be a surprise premiere of the newly restored OT?
Well, if there's ever a full 35mm HD scan of Star Wars made available to me, then yes, definitely (unless of course the scan already looks better than the official BD, which certainly isn't inconceivable).
Oh, it will most certainly be 100% GOUT free.
Yes, in v2.0, the probe droid shot was a recreation using the GOUT for the moving parts.
And yes, many recomposited shots were left in in v2.0 because with GOUT as my best source for the originals, I wasn't able to undo them while keeping sufficient picture quality - now it may be a different story :-)