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#884319
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#884235
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Here’s the NFO:

                         THIS IS A WORKPRINT OF RETURN OF THE JEDI - DESPECIALIZED EDITION REMASTERED (v2.0)

|This is a fan preservation made for culturally historical and educational purposes. |
|Fanedits and preservations must not be bought or sold. |
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This is a reconstruction of the 1983 theatrical version of Return of the Jedi. The original shots were painstakingly restored using various sources and the film received an extensive shot by shot color correction.

The remastered version (v2.0) represents a significant improvement in picture quality over the earlier 1.0 version
due to the use of better encoding and higher quality sources and replacing many of the despecialized shots with
higher quality ones.

This is a workprint version meant for quality control purposes - this means, that there may be some glitches, as well as some unfinished shots - please report any issues you find here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-RETURN-OF-THE-JEDI-Despecialized-Edition-HD-AVCHD-DVD9-and-NTSC-DVD5-available-SEE-FIRST-POST/id/12905

or on facebook.com/despecialized/

Color-correction in this workprint is very much temporary, so there isn’t much point in commenting on that.


This is an MKV version, which can be played on computers but should also play from a USB device on most modern TVs and media players.

Included are the subtitles from Project Threepio v8.3. More info here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Project-Threepio-Star-Wars-OOT-subtitles/id/13794

This workprint only includes hairy_hen’s 5.1 purist audio mix. If you want to add alternate audio tracks, they need to be synced to the NTSC 2006 DVD.

If you want to add any alternate audio or subtitle tracks (for example a differnt language dubbing) you can use MKV Toolnix,
which can be found here: http://www.videohelp.com/software/MKVtoolnix

Open “mkvtoolnix-gui.exe”, drag and drop the “ROTJ v2.0 Workprint.mkv” into the program. Then drop in the audio or subtitle file
you want to add and in the window that pops up, choose “Add as new input file”. Then in “output file” at the bottom of the window,
you can choose where you want your new file to be created and then hit the “Start muxing” button.

If you want to create a burnable ISO, which will play in your Blu-Ray player when burned to a BD25 or DVD9, you can use TS Muxer,
which can be found here: http://www.videohelp.com/software/tsMuxeR

Open “tsMuxerGUI.exe”, drag and drop the “ROTJ v2.0 Workprint.mkv” into the program. Then you can drop in any audio or subtitle file
you may want to add.
In “Output” choose “Blu-Ray ISO” and choose where you want your new file to be created and then hit the “start muxing” button.

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#884196
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Another question: What do you guys think would be the best format? I’m encoding using the same settings I used for the SW and ESB AVCHDs but what should I mux to to maximize compatibility?

I was thinking about muxing to mkv but including tsmuxer.exe with a batch file to create a BD ISO for those who want to burn it to BD. Would that be possible? Also, how about a batch file for swapping audio? Can that be done?

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#883853
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Yeah, a nice 1080p/2K restoration based on a print would certainly be great, because, like CatBus said, it may occasionally have some extra detail that was destroyed by DVNR and compression on the BD and certainly wouldn’t have all the warping and frozen grain and all the other crap caused by the DNR in the 2004 masters, not to mention the destroyed colors, which can only be revived to a certain degree from the BDs. But a 4K version of the same restoration would offer little to no upgrade - again, it makes a lot of sense to do the scanning in 4K, because then less detail is lost through inevitable manipulation of the image but for the final product, 4K would be redundant. I guess a restoration made from an IP could have some merit as that is only one generation removed from the ON but from a print, not so much, unless, like Mike Verta, you’re actually recruiting detail from multiple prints for each frame.

Either way, Despecialized in 4K would only make sense if there was a new 4K restoration from the negative, that would be the SE - but replacing shots in such a restoration with 4K scans of prints would be a similar situation to what we had replacing shots in the BD version with GOUT, although the difference would probably be less noticeable.

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#883793
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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1
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I don’t know what to answer first 😄
The nostril thing, I guess - there is a problem with the animation, though I don’t think is so much with the nostrils, as it is that it changes directions too fast. But since TN1 already released an HD sample of the complete scene, even if I didn’t get a better source, there would be no reason to keep the animated version in a potential new release of SW - I’d just use a 35mm source for the lizard.

Now that brings me to the next step after Jedi 2.0 and the posibility of a v3.0 release - the next step is ESB and the ROTJ v2.5. I might do 3.0 eventually but it would be a release of the entire trilogy at once, where ESB and ROTJ would be pretty much just 1080p upgrades of v2.5s (all of despecializing was still done at 720p for ESB v2.0, so all those shots would have to be redone and I’d have to redo the color correction and the cut at 1080p as well) but for Star Wars, it would have to be a complete new version from scratch, so don’t expect v3.0 or the upgrade to 1080p any time soon, if ever - seriously, I’m not promissing anything and I’ve had these plans for a long time but plans can change and I didn’t want to get anyone’s hopes up too high and I still don’t. It’s the same thing with this ROTJ workprint - I’ve been putting it together for quite a while now but I kept it under wraps, because I had no idea when the circumstances would allow me to finish it in a presentable state.

Concerning 4K, that would be just redundant without a new, very good 4K scan of the original negative - Scanning theatrical prints in 4K is great, because it allows for nice 2K results after the necessary resizing, cropping and other manipulation, but the detail present in a 4K scan of a print still doesn’t come anywhere near the detail seen on the BD, which is a shitty 1080p scan of the negative, and even this scan doesn’t resolve much beyond 720p. The BD does resolve a little bit beyond 720p, so there would still be some small merrit to a 1080p version but it doesn’t resolve all the detail possible with 1080p and 4K scans of prints resolve even less detail, so 4K would have no merrit at all, even sourced from a 4K scan of a print.

As to the GOUT sync, thanks for the info - the cut is not locked down yet, so I think I will still be able to make sure it’s NTSC synced, which, as CatBut correctly pointed out, has always been the plan for the final v2.0 version but it was just easier to keep the WP synced with v1.0, because I used v1.0 quite a lot when making it - most of the color-correction is just v1.0’s chroma with a bit of a tweak, and all the Jabba subs shots are just inserted in from v1.0. This is very much temporary and neither will be the case in v2.0 but it was a great way to expedite the proces to get the WP out in time for TFA.

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#883701
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Yeah. I’ll use hh’s 5.1 audio, becuase it downmixes pretty well on stereo equipment, so people with both stereo and surround setups can enjoy it. Have there been any updated versions since the release of v1.0? And also, wasn’t there a version that syncs better with v1.0’s PAL-GOUT based sync? I’ve based the cut of this version on v1.0.

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#883660
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Yeah - it will be just a workprint for the simple reason that A) I just don’t have the time to watch it and properly check it for bugs until my own pre-TFA marathon. And B) I don’t have the time to put together a complete release with both AVCHD and MKV encodes and all the subtitile and audio tracks, so I only plan to encode it as like 4GB file with only one audio track and a text at the start saying it’s a wokprint version. There will be no watermark throughout the whole movie, except maybe a tiny timecode running in the corner of one of the black bars.

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#883603
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towne32 said:

Ah, I see now that you say you didn’t plan on doing a public workprint because you didn’t have material to fix the eyebrows, yet. Makes sense, as they were the most criticized part of 1.0. But they look great, now!

Is there any change to the plan of only doing 720p? Even if the last few GOUT sources are replaced? I know this has been brought up multiple times. But, clearly things change, such as the ability to see a new version(ish) before TFA changed. 😃

No, I want to keep it consistent with the other versions, so all versions up to 2.5 will remain 720p.

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#883600
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That’s ok Frink, bring as many younglings as you want. We have Darth Vader.

RE: “So I know I’m old and the whole Internet thing baffles and frightens me, but am I the only one who doesn’t see any sign up link in, under, or near the YouTube video?”

You need to click SHOW MORE under the description.

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#880848
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Almost - you need to drop in not the entire BMDV folder but the .m2ts file inside the BDMV/STREAM folder and then deselect the Italian audio (or maybe getting rid of any unneeded subtitles could probably do the trick instead) and select AVHCD Folder muxing option and hit START MUXING - this will create a new copy and you can delete the old one (unless you want to give back and keep seeding it for a while).