Those black bars are essential for a proper viewing of the AVCHD. Some of Ady's youtube clips don't have them and they are stretched horizontally, which is normal with anamorphic DVDs but not with HD.
Sorry, what was this thread about again?
Actually, there was no 97 SE HD broadcast. And I think Wookiegroomer released some BD sized versions of the 2004 SE with some basic colour correction. The thing is though that the largest HDTV capture of SW available is under 20GB, so blowing it up to BD is kinda pointless. If you're looking for a larger sized file, there is Ady's ESB (which is a colour corrected reconstruction of the 97 SE) as a 16GB mkv but I don't know about anything else. But believe me, a 50GB BD is a really pointless download right now.
Yeah, it's a different frame. I tried to overlay them in photoshop to find out if that lowest SD is at a different angle or it is just my eyes playing tricks on me due to the crushed blacks (and yes, it is a slightly different angle) and the big SD is in a slightly different position and also, you can see the third (middle) SD's engines glow through the big one in the original, so it's not new there. But the shot is recomposited.
Farlander said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRd_vZT6zPY
Swearing in ANH FTW! :p
That is awesome!!! :-D
haraldo23 said:
Just imagine all those Clone War scenes from PT with gore just like in "Saving Private Ryan", or Natalie Portman showing some nudity, or Anakin yelling out some swear words... If done right, I think it would be amazing!
Mace Windu to Palpy: Yo under arrest mothafucka!!! I've just about had enough of yo mothafockin' sith on this mothafockin' planet!!!
PM sent :-)
First of all, Ady, I'm sorry to hear about your dad and all the other problems you've encountered lately, I hope everything will work out.
Second:
Ripplin said:
Interesting about the badges. At first, I was thinking 'I wouldn't have noticed that because I haven't seen the 2004 version anyway.' (lots of opportunities, as Spike airs the trilogy ad nauseum!) But.........isn't your AVCHD based on hi-def airings of the 2004 version? Is their "fix" in there? Sorry if I should know this already. :p
Ady put this back to its original state in his AVCHD as it was a 1997 SE reconstruction. I'm not sure how he did it, my bet would be that he rotoscoped that part of the picture back from one of the anamorphic 97 SE broadcast captures (TB or GKAR).
Sorry, guys, had a lot going on lately and didn't really find any time to work on this but I'm hoping next week I might make some significant progress. It's really only the subtitles that's slowing the work down, I might make them some simpler way to make them look better than the yellow ones but I don't think I'll be doing them in AE after all... Oh, and I forgot to thank msycamore publically for the help with the subtitles, so thanks :-)
So did they just slow the wipe down, so it lasts for more frames?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-LrDN0dHEw&feature=related
ROTJ sweded. I dig the force lightning :-)
If the print had a pink colour shift, colour-correcting it might have made the whites slightly creamy/yellowish. Or they're just faded...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs8D6zwQhxs&feature=channel
Make sure to watch it until the very end...
I thought about that possibility, I thought maybe it wouldn't be a bad source for some of the compositing, for example Mr. Shaw's eyebrows, it should provide much higher resolution for the composite of that shot, but if the transfers weren't very good, then it probably wouldn't work.
Vader23 said:
On ROTJ you should use stop motion animation with star wars figures to add a better lightsaber fight.Have Luke vs Vader where Luke wins by jamming his lightsaber into Vader's chest.
Have Vader fall to his knees as Luke force grabs Vader's lightsaber and crosses the two lightsabers to Vader's neck (like how Anakin did to Dooku).
Then have the emperor say,kill him and become my new apprentice.Then have Luke turn around and say,no,I am a Jedi.Then have the emperor say,so be it,as the emperor pulls out his own lightsaber and then we get to see Luke vs the emperor where Luke uses two lightsabers to fight him.
Then the emperor uses force lightning to knock the lightsabers out of Luke's hands and zaps Luke with a bolt of lightning as well.
When Luke is lying on the ground have the emperor walk over and is about to strike the Jedi down with his lightsaber,until it is blocked with another red lightsaber.
As the emperor turns and sees Vader blocking the blade.Then we get to see Vader vs the emperor (red vs red).
Although, thinking about it, there might be some merit to some of these ideas. It would be cool to make the Dooku killing scene in ep.3 resemble this scene in ROTJ more, as the prequels are the films that need heavy changing anyway and they are the films that should have been made to tie up with the OT. But I'm definitely against adjusting the OT to fit better with the PT.
It would make sense to be building the DS near a rich natural resource, which Endor could well be, so that sounds like a good idea.
I mean, he must have been joking, right?
Thanks, Chewtobacca.
You'll all be glad to hear that I managed to fix the black boarders problem, so now they should be consistently black throughout the whole film :-)
Keep in mind that this was a non-anamorphic SD release, so what looks good at this resolution may not look as good at 1080p. They may have just used an old print and at this resolution it looked great but that doesn't mean it would look the same on Blu-Ray. But I'm sure there would be suitable material to scan at 1080p, it is just not certain that such would be the source they used for the GOUT crawl...
see you auntie said:
Can I ask what GKAR means? I know what it is, that is it refers to one of the three sources used for the edit along with the GOUT and '04 DVD I just don't know what the specifics are.
Oh, sorry, missed that before. GKAR is a recording of the 97 SE from a German digital broadcast and is anamorphic PAL. The quality is a bit lower than the 04 DVD but better than the GOUT.
Sorry, guys, but absolutely not. Unlike the digital recomposites of speeders in Empire and some of those I'm keeping in Jedi, the original Rancor was so notoriously bad that the cleaned up version is just way too apparently new. I'd actually love to replace all the recomposites and am still tempted to do it but some I most probably won't, because the only source is the GOUT and the difference between old and new is really small but I have GKAR as a source for the Rancor shots, so the quality difference is not big at all.
I always had a grudge against the recomposited shots, maybe worse than some of the added CG scenes and here's why:
When I was a small kid, I only had the original original STAR WARS on VHS and that's what I was growing up with until a few years later I got the SE trilogy set. I always loved to play the FX scenes frame by frame and analyse the FX and try to spot the imperfections and the mate lines and I just admired what they were able to achive in 1977 - 1983 without computers (especialy the asteroid chase and the cloud city approach - I knew which shots were the all new digital additions and didn't watch those that way, because there's nothing interesting about analysing CG that way) and I still kept looking for the originals more out of interest than for thinking they were better. And when, years later,I finally found the original Empire and Jedi, (they weren't easy to find here at all) I played the two versions on two VCRs at the same time and was switching between them to try and spot the differences...
...I was horrified when I discovered that some of the shots I so admired were actually fake. And I found out that the original FX did look amazing for the time and on top of it had a beautiful charm about them, exactly because of the mate lines and other imperfections; That's what first made me hate the SEs, not the CG, because I didn't feel cheated by the CG, I could clearly tell what was CG and what wasn't, but by the recomposites I felt tricked, because I finally realized that when watching the SE I couldn't (and still can't) be sure whether I'm watching what was achieved all these years ago without computers or not. And then as I grew up, I of course realized that the CG and 90% of all the SE changes harmed the films as a story, not only as an FX exhibition. And even though I don't watch the FX scenes frame by frame anymore, (well, not very often anyways :-) ) I still have that feeling of being tricked by the recomposites when I watch the films.
Oh my god, I had no idea that the "SE" of THX was screwed up this much!!! Lord have mercy on GL's soul :-/
Oh, right, yeah, that's true.
bkev said:
Man! What is it with people and blue these days?
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Me too.