Harmy

No, you’re wrong in saying that - I (and I’m sure many others) want the Falcon with it’s rear end chopped off, because it’s a beautiful illustration of the limitations of the VFX techniques used in the '70s.

And no, we don’t have to have that - the Special Edition doesn’t have that, you may have noticed. But a version that doesn’t have that is not a preservation/restoration.

That’d be Special Edition stuff that has no place in a restoration.

Hi, I just found this. Could I please get the links?

I think what he said was he was having trouble even getting the meeting, so they have nothing to be impressed by yet.

It’s an old Tesla NC420 - it’s not the best turntable but with a new Ortofon OM5E cartridge it’s very serviceable. If you don’t want to spend a fortune, you’re probably better off buying a used turntable from the 70s.

I actually tried recording a commentary like that once but the problem is that in some sections the changes go by so fast and so close to the next one, that there simply isn’t enough time to talk about them and then there are whole long stretches, where there are no changes and I didn’t know what to talk about there.

joefavs said:

Harmy said:

Yes, the new LPs are reprints of the original soundtrack albums. I’ve got the picture LPs for Star Wars and content-wise they’re identical to my '77 soundtrack album. And I’ve got the new gold LPs for ESB and ROTJ and they also seem to be identical to their '80 and '83 counterparts, Lapti Nek, Yub-Nub and all - and the cover-art seems the same as the old ones too.
I ordered the hologram TFA LP soundtrack about a month ago too but it still has not arrived - can’t wait for that one.

Before seeing this post I had no idea there were new LPs apart from the picture discs. I’ve never been very fond of picture discs, but I had just ordered the ANH one an hour before and was prepared to wait however many months for the other two just because I’ve wanted these on vinyl for ages and I’m not willing to dish out the insane prices for used copies on Amazon. Luckily I popped into this thread, cancelled the order, drove to Barnes & Noble and snagged the whole set. So thanks.

Also, I picked up the hologram TFA LP last month. You have to basically be shining a flashlight straight into it for it to work, but it’s pretty cool.

Finally got it yesterday. Here’s a 3D video I made of it: https://youtu.be/MgKxLXWGzc0

PS: Sorry for the off topic - is there a thread to discuss this stuff?

Yeah, a bug in your editing software is the most likely cause of this - it’s highly unlikely - well, practically impossible - that all of those frames would be doubled in both DeEd and Grindhouse - there might be a doubled frame in a few places in the DeEd where it was necessary for keeping it in sync with the GOUT but definitely not this many and there was no such thing done for Grindhouse, so there should be no doubled frames there.

Have you not read what yoda-sama wrote?

The thing about that is that as far as we can tell, the 16mm ROTJ mono is just a fold-down of the stereo mix and not a distinct soundmix.

Yes, the new LPs are reprints of the original soundtrack albums. I’ve got the picture LPs for Star Wars and content-wise they’re identical to my '77 soundtrack album. And I’ve got the new gold LPs for ESB and ROTJ and they also seem to be identical to their '80 and '83 counterparts, Lapti Nek, Yub-Nub and all - and the cover-art seems the same as the old ones too.
I ordered the hologram TFA LP soundtrack about a month ago too but it still has not arrived - can’t wait for that one.

The Death Star cell-block corridor extension should be another dead giveaway - but since it has the 2004 Jabba, I doubt it will have any visual differences from the 2004 version (other than the German bits, of course, which would be spliced in).

Sounds like it’s the 2004 version, which used to be broadcast by German HDTV stations before the BD came out.

Sounds great but they could very well just have added the German title and crawl, so don’t get too excited until you check out the actual movie - when they last showed SW on TV here, the title and crawl was also in Czech, even though it wasn’t even in Czech on BD, and it was the 2011 version.

If only it was so clear-cut - basically every big budget movie between 2005 and 2015 has been done using a 2K DI, with the visual effects rendered at 2K or 1080p, so most of those films will get a 4K BD release upscaled from their original 2K DI master and a new HDR color-grade (some already have). And they can very easily do that with the 2011 SEs and will have to do it with the PT and the general public will eat it up, because it’s Star Wars in 4K, just like they ate up the Blu-Rays, because they were Star Wars in HD, no matter the woefully lacking quality. So they still won’t need to release the OOT in order to make huge money on a 4K BD release.

Hm, when I look at an image like that (couldn’t find one, so I created a couple in photoshop), I can see the separate lines from quite a bit further away.
I guess I was talking about the distance at which I can no longer see the grid between the pixels when looking at an amorphous uniform field of the same color, which is quite a different matter and is what I find irritating and especially visible on bright areas - like when I saw a 2K digital projection of the Hateful Eight, all the snow scenes looked like I was watching them through a mosquito net.

Well, you really got me thinking there, so I did the Snellen Chart test and I guess I may need to visit an optometrist - 20/20 on the left eye but only 20/25 on the right eye.

From that distance, I can still see the pixels on the projection screen on very bright parts, like on subtitles, but they aren’t distracting any more.

Are you telling me, that you can see individual pixels on a 58" 1080p TV from nearly 8 feet away? BS.

If I focus, I can see individual pixels on my TV from max about 12", so 3’9" seems weird - maybe for a 1080p 58" TV.

Well, I have a 58" 4K TV as a monitor and I sit about 2 feet from it. And then I have a 135" projection screen and sit 10 feet from that - I would prefer sitting even closer but if I move any closer than that, I can see the pixel grid of my 1080p projector, so I’d love to have a 4K one. In cinemas, I can always see the pixel grid as well and it’s really annoying. 4K definitely makes sense for screens.

But even sitting 2 feet away from my monitor, I can’t really tell the difference between 4K and well-upscaled 1080p. Especially when you add compression.

Yes, and digital ships were added and the framing got altered too.

Wow, that looks amazing!
@UnitéD2: No, the top is clearly the Blu-Ray and bottom is the regrade - Despecialized used the original matte-paining, whereas this is the altered SE one.

It could have been some sort of work-in-progress thing, before the final color pass.
I think, if they used Mike’s for SW and Reliance for the other two, it’d be fine.

Why not scale the images down?