Handman

They also had Hillary at 90% winning… I’ll believe it when I see it.

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Indeed. I didn’t know it worked so well until I saw a comparison.

i call my teachers by their first name

This never happened with me, highly discouraged.

Wait, your name isn’t Ash?

I’m a bit uncomfortable addressing a superior by their first name. So many of them want me to now, but… they aren’t my friend.

Whoops!

A Miserable Norm Macdonald goes on The View: 'I never did anything’

“What I was talking about was Chris Hardwick, a particular comedian, a friend of mine. And if 500 women go against a man obviously the guy is guilty. In Chris Hardwick’s case, it’s one woman against one man. So I was saying I thought it was good … Chris Hardwick is as rehabilitated as you can get. Yet he still tells me he can’t walk down the street without people yelling stuff at him.”

“It’s always bad when you have to apologize for the apology,” Macdonald said. “There used to be a word we would all say to mean stupid that we wouldn’t say any more. You know the word I’m talking about? Stupidly I was about to say that word and I stopped and [wondered] what the right word was to say, and I said a different word that was equally [offensive]. I realized at that moment I said something unforgivable…The remark I made about people with Down syndrome is terrible.”

It’s just frustrating to see a guy who did nothing but try to respond honestly to an interview question he didn’t particularly want to answer anyway be treated so harshly for it. I mean, from his perspective, he’s seen longtime friends lose their jobs, one wrongly accused (more or less), so he’s had to deal with that personally. It makes sense to me why he made the comments he did.

Are people arguing Norm has a right to be on The Tonight Show?

I’m just bummed a favorite comedian of mine was cancelled over a controversy that amounts to a guy standing up for his friends, and had to address that controversy on The View of all things rather than on The Tonight Show. Of course they had the right to cancel him. I just wish they didn’t.

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

I said that four hours ago. I can’t stay angry at something like that for that long. I’m not sure how you want me to post…

Which is when I called you irrational? Damn man, I can’t even apologize without you taking issue with it?

I’m not taking issue with the apology. You said I still seemed to be angry over the same thing, and I said I wasn’t. I have no idea what you mean here.

Has suppressing your emotions helped you succeed as a happy and fulfilled adult?

Thanks. For someone who finds it odd I post in an angry manner, supposedly, you sure do throw a lot of backhanded insults. I’m not going to say I don’t either, but… well, let’s call it even.

And yes, I’m doing much better now than I was then.

Tricky stuff.

I said that four hours ago. I can’t stay angry at something like that for that long. I’m not sure how you want me to post…

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

You literally that you can’t comprehend why anyone would cry in that situation. And yet, presumably, they did, so obviously you’ve got a problem trying to understand how some people’s emotions work.

People cry for a lot of reasons. I’m sure you wouldn’t understand it in some cases either. This does not mean we have a problem. However, considering Fallon’s show, and the circumstances, I am going to assume (a bad word, I know) they are of the generation that cries over everything. I find this more plausible than a producer suffering from some form of PTSD and Norm worship.

So basically “darn pussy kids need to man up and stop crying so much.” Okay cool.

Yep. I used to cry a lot when I was really young. Did me no favors.

Victims should be allowed to speak out period.

I just had an idea. There should be some sort of professional group that investigates these things rather than just putting it out on social media for the mob.

I’m not emotional. Again you assume a lot about me for someone who doesn’t like to do that.

You literally that you can’t comprehend why anyone would cry in that situation. And yet, presumably, they did, so obviously you’ve got a problem trying to understand how some people’s emotions work.

People cry for a lot of reasons. I’m sure you wouldn’t understand it in some cases either. This does not mean we have a problem. However, considering Fallon’s show, and the circumstances, I am going to assume (a bad word, I know) they are of the generation that cries over everything. I find this more plausible than a producer suffering from some form of PTSD and Norm worship.

I already offered a couple reasons why it might affect someone. You can criticize me for “condescension”

I criticized you for the following:

You have a really limited understanding of human emotions and experiences beyond your own life if you think that’s the case.

Which was condescending. You assume quite a lot about me for hardly knowing me.

I’m not even talking about that. Nothing I’m talking about has to do with actual sexual predators.

Thanks for the psychology, professor…

I don’t see how I’m wrong either.

Just because “that’s the way it is” doesn’t mean that’s the way it should be.

What do you expect me to do with these people I don’t get along with? Yell at them until they go away? See, the world has a lot of people with different views in life, and you have to learn to get along with them. If understanding that means I have a problem looking outside of myself… well, sorry I guess. Sometimes you need to be tough.

You’re talking about a legal matter - “guilty until proven innocent,” but this merely the court of public opinion.

Exactly, and when have you ever trusted the public to get anything right? To even analyze anything? It’s really… a scary thought. Especially in a world where public opinion is treated as judge, jury, and executioner.

Are you trying to imply that that’s a good thing?

I’m just saying that’s my experience, and based on that experience, this reaction was excessive.

I don’t know why you would want a world where people could just hypothetically be terrible to one another and it’s considered valid behavior.

I’m saying there are people I have to work with that I don’t necessarily get along with, but I have to. That’s just the way it is. What would I say to HR? “I think this person is an asshole”?

I just can’t comprehend such a strong reaction to something that really doesn’t affect anyone either way.

Ah, such is bureaucracy. Good luck, man.

Yeah, Collipso has it. I’ll be the first to admit I’m terrible at wording things and getting ideas across sometimes, and I definitely got a little more than annoyed a few hours ago. mfm and Collipso are saying what I’m trying to say.

Oh I know you don’t care. I was talking about Handman.

“You really like to assume that whenever someone brings something up or gets annoyed at something that they’re fixated on it. It’s obnoxious.”

If I cried at any of the jobs I’ve held, I’d be a laughingstock and never taken seriously again, regardless of what it was over. There are jobs where I’d have probably been beaten up had I done that. Crying over a comment made by some comedian (not a coworker, not a friend, a comedian you don’t know) in a magazine seems a little silly, and shouldn’t be held as the basis for a business decision. It’s incompatible with the world I inhabit, where I have been absolutely repulsed (and yes, even offended) by the people I had to deal with on a daily basis.