Hagdorm

I stumbled across an old link to this project, and I’m stoked to see how close you’ve come Puggo! I’m really looking forward to this. With ESB Revisited’s release, and this completing the 16mm trilogy, we’re very spoiled for viewing options these days! Oh, and I have to say I’m really digging the full surrealist poster for some reason - I vote that as a cover, lol!

Deloreanhunter12 said:

I do wonder dreammaster, are looking into Harmy’s lpp scan of Return of the Jedi or at least, what your thoughts are on it?

I would say that’s the highest praise any of us can offer, asking for more of the same level of work 😃

I did an encode last night with the DTS-HD tracks as well. I set the level to 4.1 (it doesn’t call it high profile, but that’s what it is), and because for some reason it told me the frame rate was 90000 I changed the FPS to 24000/1001. I haven’t burned it yet but Media Player Classic and VLC both liked it well enough. I used Virtual CloneDrive to mount it.

If it’s from Harmy’s Despecialized, a simple replacement can be done using tsmuxer. That means having both downloaded though.

I finished grabbing this last night, so I haven’t gotten a chance to watch it yet, but I checked out a few scenes (the battle of Hoth, the Emperor’s hologram and Yoda stew scenes in particular). It looks like a completely different scan! I’m really impressed with the level of quality you pulled from the Grindhouse. It’s not without its issues - which is in no way meant as a criticism, it’s primarily due to the source you had to work with - but it’s very, very good. You’ve done an amazing job, Dreamaster. Well done.

Looking at the screenshots on my TV it looks like at worst, some of the black bars have been cut off at the top and bottom. That’s super easy to fix when converting to a disc, and playback on a PC would be just as easy. I can’t wait to watch this!

Lol. Is it off, though? I can’t tell on my phone.

I just got home from work and watched the example on my TV. HOLY CRAP! That’s a huge difference, and even more impressive that the Grindhouse can get so clean! I’m stoked for this release.

I’m super excited for this! The regrade was my go-to version of Empire, but I have a feeling this will be THE version to have until Poita’s work is finished.

Wow, you’re really committed to the 81 crawl. I like that a lot, because it’s what I grew up seeing, and it helps the film stay connected to all the other episodes (yes, even the prequels - I’m not as critical of them as some, but they’re definitely not my favorites). I assume this will be 1080p when completed?

Video Artifact looks like a very promising tool, for all kinds of restoration and fan based projects. And thank you for the update!

Revolution said:

Did everyone lose interest in this project? 😛

I hope not, I was really looking forward to this.

Looks like there’s cropping on the edges, too. Given this was posted for missing frame detection, I’d assume this was (hopefully) just a quick crop, not indicative of the entire image.

Good lord, that’s some incredible before and after comparison. You continue to impress, Poita.

Well, the file was smaller because it turns out that MakeMKV filtered out all but the 5.1 audio. So…here we go again, lol.

towne32 said:

Ah, yes. That’s just due to the differences in overhead space in an m2ts vs mkv container. Perfectly normal. And perfectly frustrating if you’re converting in the other direction and think you’ve got something that fits on a disc…

I figured something like that was going on. That’s a pretty big variance really, from 33.9 down to 29.9. Now on to make yet another version to add the LD audio. I think I can understand Lucas’ tinkering to an extent now, lol.

towne32 said:

If your computer didn’t spend hours encoding anything, and it only remuxed it, you don’t need to worry about video quality. As long as all the audio is there, and the two videos (crawl/rest) are playing nicely, it sounds like you should be in good shape.

Yeah, but I want an MKV as well, lol (I really don’t know why, I just kinda do). RU.08’s suggestion seems to be spot on though. The file is a little smaller, but I couldn’t detect any difference in quality between screenshots, even zoomed in. I may revisit this by adding in the 1985 LD track though, because I miss Threepio’s tractor beam line. I assume that VHS releases were the same audio as the LD, weren’t they? I remember that line and it felt a little odd when I got my copy of the GOUT when it first came out that it wasn’t there. With that audio track and the 81 crawl, this will truly be the version of SW I fell in love with as a kid.

Agreed, Harmy. It would’ve saved me multiple steps to get where I am now at least. As it is, I’m working from a new, movie-only ISO I made through tsmuxer, so up to that point nothing’s actually been reencoded. I tried MakeMKV, but I haven’t done a screenshot comparison yet. Looks good from what I can see though, with grain apparently untouched and a file size of 29.9 GB.

towne32 said:

the resulting file would be enormous.

No joke there, I tried to make a lossless single disc copy of Das Boot recently (the uncut, almost 5 hour long version), and it went from a 7.73 GB source to over 31 GB! Which of course didn’t work as an SD Blu-ray. I seem to have a knack for picking problematic video projects 😃

Yeah, I also discovered that I neglected to adjust the video optimization. Oops. I’d prefer to make an MKV without reencoding, but i’m not sure how. Ironically, I made a new Blu-ray ISO that’s exactly what I what, without any quality loss. I just can’t get to the end result of an MKV without reencoding at least once.

I managed to make an MKV with the new 81 crawl, but it came out to a total of 20.3 GB. I used Handbrake, with video set to lossless with no crop, and the audio set to passthru (I used all 3 DTS-HD tracks from DeEd 2.7 for consistency). The starting file was 33.9 GB. It looks good from what I’ve checked, I can’t really detect a difference without going side by side, but I’m not sure why I got so much smaller a file.

JEDIT: I did a screenshot comparison and it looks like my MKV softened the grain a bit. I’m not sure what I did wrong though.

I’m consistently stunned at the level of quality that can be pulled from these prints. Even if the colors on the last video are off, the cleanup looks incredible. You’re doing an amazing job, Poita!

Here’s the discussion thread. The video itself should still be in the usual places 😉

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-RETURN-OF-THE-JEDI-Grindhouse-35mm-LPP/id/48258/page/1

Harmy has a grindhouse of Jedi that’s in much better condition than Empire. It’s my go-to version.

Yeah, sure enough I got the same error. SnooPac, I have the MKV you posted, I actually found it before I found the ISO, lol. I’ve successfully made an M2TS file of the movie with the 35mm crawl using tsmuxer by joining the two pieces together. More because I can than anything else I guess.

JEDIT: I don’t see why ripping an MKV would be problematic, it just takes a program that can connect multiple files together like what I did. A little tinkering would show which file is which.