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#973815
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Godzilla 1985 - Reconstruction Project (Released)
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Video Collector said:

Great job, and I am very much looking forward to seeing the finished product. Looking very good from those caps. I can’t see where the Japanese subs were masked, at least not in those stills. Is it just as seamless in motion, I wonder?

How will you handle distribution once it’s done?

It’s not always as seamless in motion, but none of the masking work is really egregious. I might fine-tune it when I go back through for v1.0, but for the most part I think it’s satisfactory.

As for distribution, I’m kind of wondering about that myself. I’m somewhat limited by the fact that I’m on a university wifi connection with a pretty draconian anti-torrent policy, so while torrenting seems like the most widely used and convenient method, I won’t be able to upload it myself. I may start by sharing it on MEGA, then arrange to have somebody make it available to torrent. We’ll see.

IsanRido said:

God Save Pop Punk said:
The MHD isn’t available in HD. The point is to try and prepare a decent-looking HD copy of the film with as little upscaled SD material as possible.

That’s the thing, though. Toho’s HDTV is less than stellar. The currently available copy of Godzilla 1985 at least has more accurate colors, and at least registers more detail, even if hampered by the compression and artifacts.

I don’t know about the detail - I’ve yet to see a full HD copy of Toho’s transfer - but I disagree on the colors. I wouldn’t say Toho’s transfer is incredible when it comes to color, but it seems a bit more natural in comparison to the MHD, which has a pretty heavy blue tint by comparison.

In any case, though, if the MHD is that preferable an option, then it’s out there and readily available. I’m doing what I’m doing mainly so there’s at least a mostly-HD option available to people; if people prefer the SD MHD recording then it’s there too.

Anyway, I’ve just gotten past the scene where the Prime Minister meets with the ambassadors and the Soviet colonel makes contact with the missile-launching satellite, so I think most of the subtitle replacements are behind me now. From here on out it should mostly be matching edited scenes and masking the occasional location super, which is pretty quick and easy by comparison. The final touch will be re-creating the end credit crawl in HD, then probably adding brief credits for those who’ve contributed sources.

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#973469
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Godzilla 1985 - Reconstruction Project (Released)
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Jetrell Fo said:

I haven’t seen the 720p, does it look nice? I cannot wait for the Kraken Bluray though, it’s about time.

It’s a Toho transfer, so it’s decent but unremarkable. That said, the Toho HD master is the best source we have to work with at the moment, so it’ll have to do. The 720p TV recording I’m working with also has a little movie camera channel logo in the bottom right corner, which is a drawback, but that’s why this isn’t the final version.

IsanRido said:

I don’t think it’s a good idea to use the Japanese version as a main source. Your best bet would be trying to improve the MHD as much as possible, perhaps only using the Japanese footage for the 2 shots that have macroblocking.

The MHD isn’t available in HD. The point is to try and prepare a decent-looking HD copy of the film with as little upscaled SD material as possible.

Anyway, a progress report:

It’s been a grunt, but I’ve finally finished the Russian sub scene. I had to make three passes at this scene: one to line up the Japanese footage with the US version’s editing, another to mask off the Japanese subtitles, and a third to add the English subtitles. The English subtitles aren’t precise recreations of what’s on the video version, seeing as we have no reference for the theatrical subtitles that I’m aware of, so I took a few minor liberties.

The line breaks in the video subtitles are preserved, though the positioning is different since the video version was severely cropped to remove the theatrical subs, meaning that lining mine up with the video subtitles would put them in very awkward-looking positions. I positioned them roughly the same distance above the bottom of the frame, with similar line spacing. Since the font, as far as I could tell, was the same one used for the opening “100 MILES SOUTH OF TOKYO” location super, I used the same font for the subtitles that I’d previously used to recreate that. There was a heavy black outline/shadow on the video subtitles that I didn’t replicate exactly, but I did add a subtler version to help make the text a little more distinguishable from the background. The video subs had other idiosyncrasies such as putting spaces before question marks or exclamation points, which I confess I didn’t replicate because it just looked really odd to me. Also, except for a few cases where a subtitle appeared in the video version one frame before a cut to a different shot (I simply started those at the same time as the cut), the timing should otherwise be a frame-for-frame match.

Here are a few before and after samples to compare:

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For now I’m taking a break to catch up on today’s Steven Universe with my girlfriend, but after that I’ll be back at it.

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#972737
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Godzilla 1985 - Reconstruction Project (Released)
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I’ve definitely been there

Anyway, a progress update on v0.5: I’m something like 15-18 minutes into the movie, and currently slogging through the scene where the Russian sub is destroyed. I’m having to mask off all the Japanese subtitles for the Russian dialogue using the US version source (I’d replace the whole shots, but I want to take as much from the Japanese source as I possibly can to maintain a high level of quality), which is challenging since the US source has slightly different framing, different colors and I think the image is a little distorted as well, so I’m having to fiddle with the placement and colors a lot. However, I think I’ve gotten them close enough that you can really only tell the difference if you’re looking for it. I’ve also had to do this for a good deal of location supers and other expository titles, which isn’t so bad, but the sheer number of times I’m having to do it in this scene is maddening. At this point I’m debating whether to go back and add the English subtitles after I finish masking off the Japanese ones, or just come back to them later, because I’m so sick of staring closely at the collars on Soviet sailors’ uniforms while I mess with color sliders and positioning.

Don’t get me wrong, by and large I’m having a lot of fun with this project, but god, dealing with all these subtitles is a bitch. Until this point I’ve had to do one of these masking procedures maybe once every few scenes, and in this scene it’s averaging out to something like once or twice every shot.

Also, having been provided with a 720p copy of the Japanese version at the proper frame rate by a Toho Kingdom member, I’ve been spared the ordeal of doing this test run with a DVD rip at 30fps. What’s more, while I was initially expecting to have to go back through and do the whole project over again for v1.0, this source is probably the same transfer used for the upcoming Kraken Blu-ray, which means I might be able to use the same Vegas project file and just go back through substituting the 1080p Blu-ray rip and have all the other work I’ve done (masking, titles and subtitles, etc.) remain intact.

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#970504
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Godzilla 1985 - Reconstruction Project (Released)
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A little late updating this thread, but…

Godzilla 1985 v1.5 is available now!

A 720p proof-of-concept reconstruction of Godzilla 1985 featuring material sourced from a 35mm release print is completed and available to download! Check the spleen or send a private message for details.

Notes on this version:

  • The 35mm test scans were used for anything that differs from or is not present in the Japanese version of the film, including new scenes, titles/credits, opticals, subtitled Russian dialogue, and textless Japanese footage. No SD video from the Monsters HD broadcast recording remains.
  • Bambi Meets Godzilla is included here, as in the original theatrical release.
  • The soundtrack is sourced from the Image Laserdisc, which also served as a reference for synchronization. Small amounts of missing audio around reel changes were reinstated from the MHD/v1.0. The short’s audio and the Godzilla roar over the New World logo are from the test scan.
  • This version is 720p as opposed to 1080p. This is because the 1080p test scans captured the entire height of the frame, including open-matte US footage, leaving the dimensions of the area actually projected – the 1.85:1 frame – closer to 720p.

Hope you guys like this version! Servanov and I have a more ambitious project involving this new material in the works; there’ll probably be a dedicated thread for that once it’s closer to completion.

Toho Kingdom thread

Original post:

I’m sure most of the people reading this post are probably Godzilla fans or at least vaguely aware of the history of this film, but for anyone who doesn’t know:

Godzilla 1985 is the edited US version of the 1984 Godzilla series reboot The Return of Godzilla. Aside from dubbing the film into English, American distributor New World Pictures shortened or cut numerous scenes, added several music cues from the Def-Con 4 score by Christopher Young, altered the film’s Cold War themes to exhibit a distinctly anti-Soviet slant, and shot new scenes featuring American actors (and numerous Dr. Pepper product placements, part of a deal that combined New World’s marketing with an existing Dr. Pepper ad campaign featuring Godzilla, which also produced a bizarre promotional music video with scenes from the movie set to Dr. Pepper’s then-current advertising jingle). This version is perhaps most notable (and fondly regarded by fans) for Raymond Burr’s reprisal of his role as American journalist Steve Martin, who was inserted into the original Godzilla in a similar fashion.

This film has long been out of print in the US, having only been issued a handful of times on VHS between its original theatrical release and the late 1990s. The Return of Godzilla, thankfully, has recently been picked up by Kraken Releasing, an imprint of Section23, for a DVD/Blu-ray release in September. However, this release will not include the US cut of the film, due to royalty issues concerning the added music cues from Def-Con 4. No doubt these issues could be sorted out, but Kraken, being a budget label aimed at casual shoppers, can’t be bothered.

The only options available to anyone wishing to see the film, therefore, are aging pan-and-scan VHS tapes, or low-quality, standard definition recordings of a 2006 Monsters HD broadcast of the film. A 1080i recording has been rumored to be out there somewhere for years, but if it exists, the person said to own it has explicitly refused to share it. The standard definition copies suffer from numerous digital artifacts, interlacing, and also lack subtitles for the Russian dialogue. Basically, there are few options, and no good ones.

I intend to change that by undertaking a project along the lines of Harmy’s Despecialized Editions, assembling the best possible copy of the film from various sources.

What this will entail is taking the best known copy of the American version of the film, the anamorphic recording of the Monsters HD broadcast from 2006, and utilizing the soundtrack and American footage from that recording while substituting video from higher-quality Japanese sources wherever possible. I’ve already obtained a doctored copy of the MHD recording from Echo3, who’s made some adjustments to the video and improved its quality to a more acceptable level, and I’ll be using this copy as the source for the US material. Kraken’s Blu-ray will be my source for the Japanese footage. The trickiest part will most likely be recreating the English subtitles for the Russian dialogue. Since these are missing in the Monsters HD version, and I know of no reference material for how they appeared in theatrical prints, I’ll be using the home video version of the film as a reference for the appearance, placement and timing of the subtitles until a better reference miraculously appears.

My plan is basically this: Once I obtain the Monsters HD source, I’ll start by conducting a sort of standard definition test run using an old bootleg sourced from Toho’s R2 as my source for the Japanese footage. This will be a rough pass to acquaint myself with the work that needs to be done, and will involve minimal, if any, color correction or other in-depth work. We’ll call that version 0.5.

Once the Kraken Blu-ray is out, I’ll begin work on version 1.0, which will likely be similar to 0.5, only in HD and with more work done on the sources, including basic color correction where applicable and possibly attempting to enhance the upscaled MHD footage to make it fit better alongside the HD Japanese footage.

After this, further revisions might be made to improve subtler aspects of the film. A few things I can think of include creating custom shapes to enhance/sharpen the edges of the areas through which flames are visible in the opening credits, recreating the text of the opening credits, adding appropriate amounts of telecine wobble to the subtitles to match the footage behind them, and recreating the end credits from scratch in HD. I’m not completely certain I’ll do all of these things, but it’s a possibility.

If anyone can lend advice or suggestions on some of the finer points of encoding, color correction, image enhancement or other related aspects of the project, I’m all ears - this is the first project of this kind I’ve attempted, so any guidance is greatly appreciated. I’ll also probably need a few test viewers to help check for problems and make sure the quality’s achieving high enough standards.

If any of you are on Toho Kingdom, you can see my original thread for this project on that board here. I’ll probably be keeping a closer eye on that thread, but I’ll be checking in here too, and any major updates will be posted in both threads.

Announcement of v0.5:

The 720p preliminary test version of Godzilla 1985 is completed and available to download! Send a private message for details.

Notes on this version:

  • The recording of the MHD I have starts a few frames into the New World logo; this version starts there as well, but v1.0 will have the complete logo, sourced from a 1080p Blu-ray rip of another New World movie.
  • The Japanese footage is sourced from a 720p recording of a TV broadcast, which means that a small movie camera station logo is visible in the lower right.
  • There are a few minor problem frames in this version that will be rectified in v1.0, the full HD version.
  • While most of the film is accurate frame-for-frame, some minor differences in the timing of cuts and reel changes between the Toho and MHD transfers means that some shots will be about a frame out of sync - this isn’t noticeable while watching, though.
  • The subtitles for the Russian dialogue in this version are not precise recreations of the theatrical subtitles, but v1.0 will feature more accurate recreations based on the Australian VHS rip provided by Tamura from Toho Kingdom.

The 1080p v1.0 will be created and released in the fall, using Japanese footage sourced from the upcoming Kraken Blu-ray of The Return of Godzilla.

Announcement of v0.6:

The revised 720p test version of Godzilla 1985 is completed and available to download! Send a private message for details.

Notes on this version:

  • The New World logo now starts from the beginning and is sourced from a 1080p Blu-ray rip of Creepshow 2, another New World movie.
  • The couple of remaining single-frame problems with v0.5 are corrected in this version.
  • The color matching on some of the masking jobs has been improved.
  • The added credits at the end listing my sources and special thanks now run a bit longer as a result of adding several people to the latter category - if you posted here or inquired about a download prior to when I rendered this version, keep an eye out for your username!
  • The subtitles still aren’t precise recreations of the theatrical subtitles and the occasional one- or two-frame image sync discrepancies are still present. The subtitles will be redone for v1.0, the full HD version, but there’s not really a way around the latter issue (thankfully it’s not noticeable while simply watching the movie).

The 1080p v1.0 will be created and released in the fall, using Japanese footage sourced from the upcoming Kraken Blu-ray of The Return of Godzilla.

Announcement of v1.0:

The full 1080p reconstruction of Godzilla 1985 is completed and available to download! Send a private message for details.

Notes on this version:

  • The Japanese footage was sourced from the Kraken Releasing Blu-ray as opposed to the TV broadcast recording used for previous versions, so the TV station icon is no longer there.
  • The Toho transfer has had its contrast adjusted to help alleviate the issues with the black levels and also been slightly color corrected.
  • The opening credits have been stabilized somewhat.
  • The English subtitles for the Russian dialogue have been carefully digitally recreated based on an Australian VHS rip that featured the original optical subtitles.
  • The stock footage from Godzilla, King of the Monsters! is sourced from the Criterion Blu-ray on this version.
  • Grain has been applied to the entire project to help the standard-definition US footage blend a bit better with the HD Japanese footage.

Hope you all enjoy it! Keep an eye out for the Grindhouse-style double feature presentation of KotM and this film with a few added bonuses! Given the decreased response on OT, I’ll probably mostly be promoting and updating on Toho Kingdom in the future, but I’ll definitely post here when it’s available! In the meantime, feel free to keep an eye on my blog at http://redmenaceofficial.tumblr.com/ for further updates and information.

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#969875
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Info: My Logo Preservation Project
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The Toho Company Ltd. logos in the Godzilla series have fallen victim to this tendency pretty frequently in the US. In their initial American theatrical runs, the US distributor would substitute their logo for Toho’s, but for most of the films from 1966 on, the versions readily available in the US are ostensibly the International export versions commissioned by Toho with English dialogue and text provided by a company in Hong Kong or by Frontier Enterprises in Tokyo, depending on the film.

However, on US home video releases, the older films sometimes have the Toho logo that was used at the time plastered with a more recent version. Some of them also feature new video-generated title cards and credits, as well as trademark and registered trademark logos added to the monsters’ names in the titles. Some of the 1990s films, originally released by TriStar in 1998, remove the logo entirely, plastering it with the TriStar logo, which in the case of Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991) causes the opening music cue, which originally started as the Toho logo faded in, to start several seconds into the longer TriStar logo. These versions also often featured new video-generated credits and other text, as well as subtitling the elaborate Japanese title cards, as opposed to the International versions’ tendency to simply paste the English title in white lettering on top of the Japanese title. (They still used the International dubbed audio, however.) Not all of the currently available Blu-ray versions issued by Sony reflect this, however, since many use either new masters or straight transfers of the International prints.

The films from 2000 to 2004 are also straight scans of the International prints, with the TriStar logo sometimes added before the Toho logo. Godzilla 2000, released in 1999 in Japan, has actually had its International dub effectively replaced worldwide by TriStar’s theatrical version of the movie, which features a unique (and much livelier) dub as well as a number of edits that improve the pacing and continuity of some scenes. Notably, while this version does begin with the TriStar logo, a vintage Toho logo appears right after it, a conscious choice on the part of the American editors.

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#951497
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ronwlim's custom bluray cases/box set
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I’m absolutely in love with these designs, but sadly I haven’t got access to an inkjet printer or a Blu-ray burner or anything. If you all don’t mind my asking, I’d be much obliged to anyone who could just do the case art and discs for me with these designs. (All per Harmy’s rules of course; I’ll gladly provide proof that I legally own the movies)