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YAREL_RGP said:

Funcha said:

I actually looked into this a bit more and there apparently is something called THX Media Director metadata added to these releases. But apparently the only way to access it is via players with built in THX Media Director circuits, of which I have no idea if there are any.

Considering how poorly these were color timed from the start though, I’m extremely skeptical that watching any of these discs in Media Director mode will magically restore everything to normal. If that’s the case, why is the standard color timing so bad?

People complained a lot about the color of the 2004 DVD, I guess Lucasfilm took advantage of the THX media director technology for the 2011 Blu-ray and made a color correction,But this is only exclusive to buyers of players compatible with this technology, if you did not have this technology then you would see the horrible color gradation of the DVD, The user who told me this also told me that his equipment cost him a lot, I suppose it is due to the scarcity and lack of fame of this metadata technology, It’s not just about the player, but also about a compatible TV or projector, the cables, and their respective calibration.

At this point, even if there are compatible products and tech, it’s all pretty much obsolete. And even the Star Wars 4K editions aren’t exactly state-of-the-art by modern standards. Between the DNR on episode I to the wonky color-timing on episode II and other questionable choices on the classic trilogy, not too many have been wowed by the newer transfers.

I actually looked into this a bit more and there apparently is something called THX Media Director metadata added to these releases. But apparently the only way to access it is via players with built in THX Media Director circuits, of which I have no idea if there are any.

Considering how poorly these were color timed from the start though, I’m extremely skeptical that watching any of these discs in Media Director mode will magically restore everything to normal. If that’s the case, why is the standard color timing so bad?

That sounds almost like what Dolby Vision does with its metadata. I think the person you talked to is either making things up or just really confused. If there was some super-secret “perfect color” version of the movies on the 2011 versions someone would have figured out how to access them by now.

YAREL_RGP said:

I don’t think many people knew about this, since the 2004 or 2011 Blu-ray versions have been around for a long time, these editions stand out for their inaccurate colorimetry, Something that many fans have complained about, many when making their color corrections rely on the 35mm Technicolor prints found over the years,Which have a more natural and consistent color than Blu-ray, but when the Blu-ray was released, it was again certified by THX, but it was not just any certification, in 2011 a new technology was released which George and THX had worked on, it is called THX media director, when you play a Blu-ray with this new certification with a device and player compatible with these technologies, you can adjust a color correction where you can appreciate the director’s vision regarding Colors, a user told me that with this technology one can appreciate the original colorimetry of the Star Wars trilogy but in the Blu-Ray set, did anyone else know about this?

Ummmm… if this was actually incorporated into any players it was probably very short lived. And that wouldn’t have helped, because the poorly color-timed versions received Lucas’ blessing. So what we’ve been seeing is essentially what he wants us to see.

I’m curious why you would upscale the Blu-Rays instead of simply using the existing 4K transfer that’s already on disc. Seems like you’re just making more work for yourself that way.

BetaMedia said:

And the new Blu-ray release is 4K HDR10+. Not UHD (UltraHD)

I think you’re getting some of your terminology mixed up.

G&G-Fan said:

Then why should it matter? Revisited literally looks better then the 4K release of ESB (which looks so desaturated it looks like it was graded by Zack Snyder). The upscale also looks perfect at 1080p. So there’s no issue.

I think a lot of people (myself included) often just automatically assume a 4K version will clearly be superior than anything in 1080p. Absolutely not the case here. There’s really no comparison between Empire: Revisited and the current 4K edition on disc. A testament to Adywan’s amazing skills and uncompromising attention to detail.

With actual 4K masters and film scans to work with now, this whole project feels somewhat irrelevant. I’m skeptical that blowing up a non-anamorphic DVD from 2006 will look presentable on a 4K set even if the project took 6 years to complete.

Using a 1.78:1 ratio would make a lot more sense than cropping way down to 2.35:1. Either way, you’re still going away from the intended framing. Plus, you’re blowing up an image that already isn’t quite the best to begin with. For quality purposes alone, you may want to rethink that.

I tried to access the site, but it says I need to both register and have an invitation code, which I don’t have.

CourtlyHades296 said:

Do you think this edit will be done in time for Star Wars’ 45th Anniversary on May 25, 2022?

It will be finished when it is finished. 😃

Not to be a downer, but those are likely getting pressed very shortly so your window to get them the audio is probably a very very short one.

It’s taken me FOREVER to find any of the footage, but Adywan, you really should check this out. I had the opportunity to see this film in an OMNIMAX dome, and the redone opening scene of Star Wars was one of the most amazing looking and sounding things I’ve heard to date. Not sure if you’d want to try to recreate anything from this, but if so WOW it could be amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=152&v=qQjY7ZDWFNo&feature=emb_logo

In short, the entire blockade runner opening scene was reshot for OMNIMAX with an all new audio mix. From the opening shot, the starfield looked far more breathtaking. I think I remember something along the line of a nebula in the background. The biggest additions were several shots from the Blockade runner firing back at the Star Destroyer with the sound of several blasts exploding offscreen in the back of the auditorium. One of the shots from the Star Destroyer creates a massive blast wave that shook the room when it hits the blockade runner. When the actual special edition came out and it didn’t include this, it was a huge letdown for me. I don’t believe this footage has ever made it to any home video format.

Booshman, I know you were working on an HD version of this for several years. Did that ever get completed?

JawsTDS said:

Finally, some 4K screencaps of THE PHANTOM MENACE, without the HDR grade. Looks super DNR’d, just like the Blu-ray.

It’s definitely DNR’d, but to my eyes it’s not too bad. Your mileage may vary. I’d say it’s the most watchable I’ve ever seen this movie, past the original theatrical viewing. Very similar to the DNR used on Marvel 4K remasters like the Thor films and Iron Man films.

Now for the BIG question … can anyone figure out a way to get these off of Disney+?

Darth Lucas said:

I mean, I haven’t seen what they have, but I’d be shocked to my core if it was anything other than a blown up Blu-ray transfer.

PREPARE TO BE SHOCKED! 😃

I wasn’t aware Combat Dealers was a show, so when I see the title Combat Dealers in HD I thought you were being quite literal. Like putting a stop to them. Ha!

I thought you meant literally combatting dealers who sell bootlegged HD titles. I’d pay money to see that!

Hello.

I have to admit, in 4K something seemed slightly off. The blacks were almost grayish. Had a kind of washed out color scheme I thought.

snooker said:

Good stuff!

Is there a reason it’s out of focus on the Blu-Ray? Did Lucasfilm goof up their transfer?

Oh man… where to begin? If I remember correctly, when Lucas decided he wanted to release the films on DVD and later Blu-Ray he gave the teams in charge of the release a ridiculously short window to get the projects done. The master for the DVD was used for the Blu-Rays with a few fixes, and even more rush changes.

I’m not sure how you plan to address it, but I always thought the initial kiss scene seemed awkwardly placed. After a huge amount of sexual tension is clearly established, the next scene is them together laughing and frolicking around happily like the previous scene never happened. If I had just been quasi-rejected by the love of my life, I’m not sure I would be quite so cheerful hanging out any longer. Ha! The tonal shift seems a bit jarring to me.

I love the amount of thought you put into the edit thus far! I really look forward to seeing more of your videos detailing your ideas. I’ve always thought there was a decent performance from Hayden Christiansen in this movie, once you edit out all the awkward crap that was in the script.

I would welcome the high bitrate MKV also, since I’m very eagerly awaiting the chance to watch the film in full DTS-HD!