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Jaitea said:

SilverWook said:

Not real, but who really knows what logos we'll see at the beginning? ;)

 Ok,....this may be nonsense, but if Disney would like the Original OT released on BD before Ep 7 hits the cinemas......& I'm sure Fox would enjoy the revenue of that....there could be a deal with Fox to be included with Ep 7.......

That would be nice

J 

It's what I've been saying since the beginning, and it would be a win-win situation if they did it. Disney can put whatever logos they want on the "spinoff" movies as far as I'm concerned, but VII, VIII and IX need to open with that fanfare.

Oh, and I hope they leave off the Bad Robot logo.

The IB Technicolor prints can only be used for a color reference and not a source scan.

Can someone please post the relevant quote from Roger Christian regarding this "digital" release of the movies in November?

towne32 said:

PS: Off topic, but does anyone know *why* blurays end up with funky color grading? It's not a result of the transfer, is it? Is it just an attempt to make things look more "modern"?

The modern color-timing trend is teal and orange, so a lot of old movies remastered within the last several years exhibit this trait. It has nothing to do with the transfer process itself. If you go back and look at early blu-rays (from like 2006 to 2009) that were using the same hd masters used to make the dvd just several years earlier, there's no difference in color-timing.

I was convinced George would eventually get around to it (yes, before any of this Disney buy-out stuff happened). Now that it's in the hands of a corporation that has no ego to bruise, it's inevitable.

The completionist side of me actually wants the theatrical cuts of all six films and the '97 versions of the OT as well. Individual releases of the movies on blu-ray are yet to happen, so this would be a perfect excuse to make each individual episode its own "ultimate collector's edition," kinda like Warner did with Harry Potter.

Then again, I could also see Disney swinging the other way and maybe just doing a 3-disc set of the remastered OOT.

I posted it mainly because Badass Digest picked it up and they are definitely reliable. But even they said "Wait, but wouldn't we have heard about Disney paying to get Ep4?"

Then again, maybe Disney and Fox agreed to do it quietly, without any press, and that's why no one heard about it.

Finally, something:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/15/new-star-wars-rumors-include-original-trilogy-re-release-on-blu-rayvod-and-more/

msycamore,

Yes, it's still up to Disney/Lucasfilm. Without their permission there can't be any remasters/restorations/re-releases, aside from simple repackaging of the existing transfers like the bd/dvd PT and OT combo packs Fox put out this past Fall. Disney could do an OOT restoration and a better SE and let Fox distribute, sure, but as Mr. Cobb so eloquently put it, they didn't pay a whopping $4 Billion just so some other company could get distribution. No, they want it all.

To me, when you're releasing a movie called Episode VII and five out of the previous six movies in the series were financed by the company you just purchased to make it, wouldn't you want to proudly roll out those other movies again?

This isn't like when they intentionally held off on a blu-ray release of the original Tron (even pulling unsold dvd's from the shelves) because they were afraid of people seeing it and not wanting to buy tickets to Tron: Legacy. This is Star Wars we're talking about here. The new movie is banking on people's nostalgia. If not an OOT release, I would think they'd at least want to do a 3D theatrical release of the SE prior to Episode 7's arrival.

I still like my idea of Disney just giving Fox theatrical distribution on VII-IX (plus a little extra) in exchange for getting all of this taken care of right now.

skyjedi2005 said:

Hopefully the cinematographers style is tamed a bit.  I like Mindel's stuff but the lens flares and frenzied fast shaky cam is kind of not my cup of tea.

Less like Amazing Spider-man 2 or Star Trek Into Darkness.  More like the first three star wars made in the seventies and eighties.

I think that was more Webb and Abrams than anyone else. Savages and John Carter, shot by Mindel for other directors, have none of those attributes.

Anyway, it looks like Dennis Lawson isn't coming back:

http://badassdigest.com/2014/05/12/wedge-antilles-to-star-wars-episode-vii-drop-dead/

If the Fox/Disney situation is all that's holding up a restored OOT then we're definitely not screwed. That will resolve itself eventually, even if it's not until 2020.* To me there is way too much money to be made by both corporations for it not to happen. In any event, it's certainly out of George's control now.

Like SilverWook said, we're doing a pretty good job of preserving the older versions all by ourselves.

*Speaking of which, if Disney will still have to pay for Ep4, is Fox really gonna charge them any less than they would for all six movies? There might not be a point in waiting.

I guess the real question is why they decided to change Chewie's haircut going into production on RotJ.

They probably had to hire a certain amount of local talent in exchange for whatever UK tax credit they're receiving. From what I hear, it's way cheaper to hire British actors anyway.

DuracellEnergizer said:

I'm still holding out for a Lynch-directed Star Wars film. *crossfingers*

Let's not forget Cronenberg, either.

Lucas asked both of "the Davids" to direct Jedi and they both turned it down.

Interestingly, Empire's DP Peter Suschitzky eventually became Cronenberg's cinematographer.

Suschitzky recently shot After Earth. It would be cool to get him back to shoot another Star Wars movie.

I really hope he doesn't come back for VIII and IX. Part of OT's strength is the different directors. The prequels should've each had a different director, and none of them should've been Lucas or even Kershner.

generalfrevious said:

Tyrphanax said:

Discuss.

 I don't know. Abrams seems to be more of a star wars guy than a star trek one. And Episode VII isn't written by by the unholy trinity of Orci,Kurtzman, and Lindelof.

It's more of a glass half-empty thing. No, it's not being written by Orci/Kurtzman and Lindelof, but on the other hand Abrams threw out Arndt's draft so he could completely re-write it. The fact that he's doing so with Kasdan's input is the glass half-full perspective.

It's funny how we're all remembering different movies that the prequel trailers were attached to, partially because we weren't all in the same country. Here in the States, Meet Joe Black and Wing Commander (both Fox movies, of course) got the teaser and theatrical TPM trailers in November of '98 and March of '99, respectively. Entertainment Tonight and Access Hollywood were how I first saw them, respectively.

Yup, I still remember. Never underestimate the long-term memory of an 8th grader.

My friend and I snuck into The Matrix in early April and they, of course, had attached the TPM theatrical trailer. So I at least got to see that one on the big screen. Probably one of the earliest times I can remember noticing the glare from the house lights on the screen during the trailers. As in, "this would look way better if they just turned them off!."

Then there was that night, I guess it was early May of '99, where I walked into an FAO Schwartz and they had both trailers playing on a loop on the small CRT TV and a Kenner (Hasbro?) Maul saber you could swing around. I didn't want to leave!

The studios never do superbowl spots for movies hitting any later than August (the halfway point between superbowls). The Super Bowl ad for Signs comes to mind.

Not gonna happen. Huge waste of money for one thing. We didn't see Super Bowl spots for any of the prequels. A new Star Wars movie with "Episode" in the title is so big of a deal that it sells itself.

Tobar said:

Interestingly...the teaser for Attack of the Clones ended up in front of Monsters, Inc.

That was the teaser for the teaser (the "breathing" trailer). The first full trailer was in front of Harry Potter.

I doubt we'll see anything until next May at the earliest. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney attaches it to Tomorrowland just as a little added incentive. Avengers 2 is guaranteed to make bank and doesn't need the help. We'll probably see it officially online earlier that week, though. I feel like studios holding off on uploading trailers until the Monday after is becoming a rare occurrence.

vbangle said:

Harmy said:

So, are you saying that as a BD and media player, it's worse than PS3?

 Just my opinion, but yes, it is worse. But that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Sony has sold a crap load of PS4s so maybe Sony wasn't too far off in their thinking about what the PS4 should be. A gaming console or an entertainment system?...they chose to make it a gaming console.

The ps4 also couldn't play 3D blu-rays, at least not with the initial firmware. I don't get what was so complicated about including a feature on brand-new, 2013 hardware that the ps3 was able to implement in 2010 via firmware using 2006 hardware.

Anyway, looking forward to this release. A quality preservation of the '97 version is something the completionist side of me has wanted ever since reading Bill Hunt's mention of the Euro broadcast preservation in his review of the 2011 official blu-ray.

ThiefCobbler4ever said:

Episode VII title revealed! Get ready for Order of The Jedi!:

http://aggressivecomix.com/?p=22233

Oh, that was amusing to read.

You gotta love it when a website no one's heard of hit-whores like this.

As for legitimate rumors, I'm gonna try and avoid reading them so as to remain unspoiled. I don't want a repeat of the prequels, where I'd spoiled every last thing for myself before actually seeing them. It's gonna be a long 19 months, though.

Excluding the earlier editions of RotJ, yes, they're all canon.

They're not done casting yet.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/67125

The difference is that the Star Trek books were never considered canon. Heir to the Empire, on the other hand, was touted as the official continuation of the story.

We never, ever expected them to adapt any of those books into VII-IX. That would've been stupid anyway, "yay, we already know what's gonna happen." But I really don't think it would've been complicated to at least make ST "compatible" with the EU instead of just placing the EU in its own timeline/dimension/whatever.

ETA:

Tobar, that's very cool to read! Could you provide a link or is that from his facebook page or something?

The "maintaining the element of surprise for the audience" is the crucial part of this whole announcement, methinks. We just won't know what exactly Abrams, Kasdan and company are gonna do with this thing until we see that first trailer, although I'm sure many a news leak will happen between now and then.

I look at that photo from the first table reading and I just want to start mapping the EU characters onto the new cast. "Oh, Daisy Ridley is clearly playing Jaina!" I want to exclaim. But then I remember not to get my hopes up.

You gotta wonder if there's gonna be a huge backlash to all of this. As noted earlier in the thread, a lot of fans on fb, tfn and elsewhere are pretty pissed about this already. I can't say I blame them. The money fans spent just on the books published since the early 90's probably totals well over a billion dollars by this point. It's that much less money George would've had to make the prequels with. Indeed, I can't help but see a parrallel with a common complaint we all have about buying the OOT on multiple formats over the decades, one of our greatest justifications for demanding that those versions be restored.

Yes, I know what you're thinking. "But that's a bad comparison. Lucasfilm isn't locking the old books away in a vault like the OOT. They're even reprinting them for the umpteenth time." Yeah, but they're also suddenly and without warning saying "sorry, but those books, retroactively, no longer count as the official continuation of the story even though that's exactly what we said they were. Thank you for the money, though."

Lucasfilm killed off Chewie to move more copies of Vector Prime and now they might be bringing him back just to sell more tickets to Episode VII. I really think they should've had a contingency plan in place. Hell, I thought keeping Han, Luke and Leia alive in the books was the contingency plan.

After spending 20 years chronicling the big three's adventures in print form, I think a return to the big screen owes the fans a little more than just "sorry, but that never happened."

I dunno, maybe I'm overreacting to this. If Episode VII surprises me and ends up a solid film I probably won't care that they've overwritten the post-Jedi EU (if, in fact, that's what they're doing).