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#707145
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Blu-Ray Of Unaltered Original Trilogy Rumour
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imperialscum said:

So if they decide to release theatrical version in HD format, I wonder if they will release 1997 SE as well. I mean there are some of us whose favourite version is 1997 SE.

 I would kinda hope they do, but most people out there don't really distinguish between the various versions of the SE like we do.

But I've said it before and I'll say it again: Each movie warrants its own Blade Runner style set. I would be happy if they merely included all the theatrically-released versions. To me it's a given that they'll do a 3D release of the SE, hopefully from fresh scans. If that happened, disc one of each movie's blu-ray could be the newest version of its SE. Disc two could then be the '97 SE and disc three the original version.

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#707143
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Would it have been possible to make the PT (in the late 90's / early 00's) in a way that synced up with the OOT?
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Perhaps I should clarify my original questions.

I'm not so much talking about syncing up in terms of story, but merely in terms of looking/sounding of a whole with the OOT.

But this kind of leads me to my other question: does it really matter? Does the fact that some of the environments in the PT are cg whereas even the most fantastical locales of the OOT (like Bespin) are still "analog" actually matter?

In a world without the SE, would it matter that the PT is as cg-filled as it is?

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#707009
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Would it have been possible to make the PT (in the late 90's / early 00's) in a way that synced up with the OOT?
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All of this talk of practical vs cgi in the Episode VII thread got me thinking about a question that comes to my mind every now and then.

In an alternate universe where the SE never happened, do you think the PT could've been made in a way that synced up seamlessly with the OOT?

Also, do you think it's possible to watch the actual PT in conjunction with the OOT?

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#706794
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Blu-Ray Of Unaltered Original Trilogy Rumour
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Verboten said:

So what's stopping Fox from just releasing their own restoration of Star Wars and then leaving Empire and Jedi up to Disney post 2020?

I always assumed Fox never messed around with Star Wars out of courtesy to George, but he's out of the equation now.

Sure, it's not going to be the streamlined box set that most would like, but it is better than nothing and may be better than waiting on them to come to some deal.

Am I missing something?

Fox would still need Lucasfilm's permission.

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#706439
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The Phantom Menace 15th Anniversary
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I was in 8th grade when TPM came out and just a couple weeks from turning 14 (way to make me feel old, guys).

TPM was originally scheduled for May 21st (my best friend's birthday), but was bumped up two days when the second trailer hit in March.

What I still remember vividly from the morning of opening day is my French teacher starting off class by saying "Now, we all know what "sequel" means," as she wrote the word on the board. Then she asked "Qu'est-ce que c'est "prequel"?" as she wrote that word as well.

"Wow, my French teacher is bringing this up right at the start of class," I thought. That's when I realized it wasn't just a big deal to me, it was a big deal all over.

It's just dawning on me now, especially thinking back to that "The Beginning" documentary from the dvd, that she'd probably seen a story about it on the news the night before and was wondering what all this "prequel" hubbub was all about.

We explained to her that the originals were IV, V and VI and that this was I.

Later in the day, between classes, I remember overhearing some of the other kids making plans to go see it that night. On a Wednesday. Again, exemplifying just how big a deal this movie was.

I'd told myself I could wait for the weekend, but who the hell was I kidding? This movie I'd awaited fervently since November was finally in theaters and I could go see it right now. All it took was the offer of a drive to the theater from my totally awesome mom to convince me.

Getting out of the car I bumped into a friend from the neighborhood who'd just seen it and said it was pretty good. I bought a ticket for the next late-afternoon show (this was probably around 5:30), surprised it wasn't sold out. Not only was it not sold out, but by the time the movie started the theater wasn't even close to being full.

Anyway, I still remember hearing about how Lucasfilm had limited (ahah!) the number of trailers that could be attached to the movie. I remember them playing the American Pie trailer. The Austin Powers 2 trailer was probably attached to my print as well, I remember seeing it on either Access Hollywood or E.T. in any event. Then of course there was Fox's "a quick look at three films currently in development," which were Fight Club, Anna and the King and Titan A.E.

Then the lights went down and the Loews Cineplex logo played. Then that familiar Fox fanfare started and the logos and titles came up.

"Holy Shit, this is really happening."

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away....

STAR WARS

There it was, just as we knew it would be:

Episode I

THE PHANTOM MENACE

The crawl continued, looking exactly as it had in the originals but obviously having been accomplished digitally this time around (and for good reason), an intentionally low-fi effect in an otherwise cutting edge movie and something that was a throwback even in 1977. The only thing different was the words.

Then the crawl ended and the camera tilted down to an approaching spaceship, only to pan with the ship and follow it as it flew by.

Weird aliens, a protocol droid, Darth Sidious via hologram, then a laser blast, an explosion and HOLY SHIT, LIGHTSABERS.

I could go on and on, but lemme just say that I'd read the first hundred pages or so of the novelization, stopping right after Qui-Gon asks Obi-Wan for Anakin's midichlorian count. In that respect it was almost like seeing the pages played out on screen beat for beat, knowing what would happen but delighting in not knowing how. Obviously the rest of the movie after that was unknown, but I'd pretty much spoiled for myself stuff like Qui-Gon dying from flipping through the comic book at the store. The action and spectacle, the scope and scale, were entertaining nevertheless.

The lightsaber fight at the end had me still buzzing after the movie had ended.

I remember passing all the people lined up for the evening screening and bumping into my basketball coach (only a few years older than me), who was among them.

My initial overall reaction was "that was the greatest movie ever!" Deep down, I knew better.

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#706406
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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Jaitea said:

SilverWook said:

Not real, but who really knows what logos we'll see at the beginning? ;)

 Ok,....this may be nonsense, but if Disney would like the Original OT released on BD before Ep 7 hits the cinemas......& I'm sure Fox would enjoy the revenue of that....there could be a deal with Fox to be included with Ep 7.......

That would be nice

It's what I've been saying since the beginning, and it would be a win-win situation if they did it. Disney can put whatever logos they want on the "spinoff" movies as far as I'm concerned, but VII, VIII and IX need to open with that fanfare.

Oh, and I hope they leave off the Bad Robot logo.

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#706303
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Blu-Ray Of Unaltered Original Trilogy Rumour
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towne32 said:

PS: Off topic, but does anyone know *why* blurays end up with funky color grading? It's not a result of the transfer, is it? Is it just an attempt to make things look more "modern"?

The modern color-timing trend is teal and orange, so a lot of old movies remastered within the last several years exhibit this trait. It has nothing to do with the transfer process itself. If you go back and look at early blu-rays (from like 2006 to 2009) that were using the same hd masters used to make the dvd just several years earlier, there's no difference in color-timing.

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#706279
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Blu-Ray Of Unaltered Original Trilogy Rumour
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I was convinced George would eventually get around to it (yes, before any of this Disney buy-out stuff happened). Now that it's in the hands of a corporation that has no ego to bruise, it's inevitable.

The completionist side of me actually wants the theatrical cuts of all six films and the '97 versions of the OT as well. Individual releases of the movies on blu-ray are yet to happen, so this would be a perfect excuse to make each individual episode its own "ultimate collector's edition," kinda like Warner did with Harry Potter.

Then again, I could also see Disney swinging the other way and maybe just doing a 3-disc set of the remastered OOT.

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#705590
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Besides "The films need to be the way I want them," has Lucas stated anything as to why the Blu-rays became the travesty that they are?
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I posted it mainly because Badass Digest picked it up and they are definitely reliable. But even they said "Wait, but wouldn't we have heard about Disney paying to get Ep4?"

Then again, maybe Disney and Fox agreed to do it quietly, without any press, and that's why no one heard about it.

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#705157
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Besides "The films need to be the way I want them," has Lucas stated anything as to why the Blu-rays became the travesty that they are?
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msycamore,

Yes, it's still up to Disney/Lucasfilm. Without their permission there can't be any remasters/restorations/re-releases, aside from simple repackaging of the existing transfers like the bd/dvd PT and OT combo packs Fox put out this past Fall. Disney could do an OOT restoration and a better SE and let Fox distribute, sure, but as Mr. Cobb so eloquently put it, they didn't pay a whopping $4 Billion just so some other company could get distribution. No, they want it all.

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#705131
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Besides "The films need to be the way I want them," has Lucas stated anything as to why the Blu-rays became the travesty that they are?
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To me, when you're releasing a movie called Episode VII and five out of the previous six movies in the series were financed by the company you just purchased to make it, wouldn't you want to proudly roll out those other movies again?

This isn't like when they intentionally held off on a blu-ray release of the original Tron (even pulling unsold dvd's from the shelves) because they were afraid of people seeing it and not wanting to buy tickets to Tron: Legacy. This is Star Wars we're talking about here. The new movie is banking on people's nostalgia. If not an OOT release, I would think they'd at least want to do a 3D theatrical release of the SE prior to Episode 7's arrival.

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#704920
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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skyjedi2005 said:

Hopefully the cinematographers style is tamed a bit.  I like Mindel's stuff but the lens flares and frenzied fast shaky cam is kind of not my cup of tea.

Less like Amazing Spider-man 2 or Star Trek Into Darkness.  More like the first three star wars made in the seventies and eighties.

I think that was more Webb and Abrams than anyone else. Savages and John Carter, shot by Mindel for other directors, have none of those attributes.

Anyway, it looks like Dennis Lawson isn't coming back:

http://badassdigest.com/2014/05/12/wedge-antilles-to-star-wars-episode-vii-drop-dead/

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#704727
Topic
Besides "The films need to be the way I want them," has Lucas stated anything as to why the Blu-rays became the travesty that they are?
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If the Fox/Disney situation is all that's holding up a restored OOT then we're definitely not screwed. That will resolve itself eventually, even if it's not until 2020.* To me there is way too much money to be made by both corporations for it not to happen. In any event, it's certainly out of George's control now.

Like SilverWook said, we're doing a pretty good job of preserving the older versions all by ourselves.

*Speaking of which, if Disney will still have to pay for Ep4, is Fox really gonna charge them any less than they would for all six movies? There might not be a point in waiting.

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#703263
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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DuracellEnergizer said:

I'm still holding out for a Lynch-directed Star Wars film. *crossfingers*

Let's not forget Cronenberg, either.

Lucas asked both of "the Davids" to direct Jedi and they both turned it down.

Interestingly, Empire's DP Peter Suschitzky eventually became Cronenberg's cinematographer.

Suschitzky recently shot After Earth. It would be cool to get him back to shoot another Star Wars movie.

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#703229
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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generalfrevious said:

Tyrphanax said:

Discuss.

 I don't know. Abrams seems to be more of a star wars guy than a star trek one. And Episode VII isn't written by by the unholy trinity of Orci,Kurtzman, and Lindelof.

It's more of a glass half-empty thing. No, it's not being written by Orci/Kurtzman and Lindelof, but on the other hand Abrams threw out Arndt's draft so he could completely re-write it. The fact that he's doing so with Kasdan's input is the glass half-full perspective.

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#703113
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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It's funny how we're all remembering different movies that the prequel trailers were attached to, partially because we weren't all in the same country. Here in the States, Meet Joe Black and Wing Commander (both Fox movies, of course) got the teaser and theatrical TPM trailers in November of '98 and March of '99, respectively. Entertainment Tonight and Access Hollywood were how I first saw them, respectively.

Yup, I still remember. Never underestimate the long-term memory of an 8th grader.

My friend and I snuck into The Matrix in early April and they, of course, had attached the TPM theatrical trailer. So I at least got to see that one on the big screen. Probably one of the earliest times I can remember noticing the glare from the house lights on the screen during the trailers. As in, "this would look way better if they just turned them off!."

Then there was that night, I guess it was early May of '99, where I walked into an FAO Schwartz and they had both trailers playing on a loop on the small CRT TV and a Kenner (Hasbro?) Maul saber you could swing around. I didn't want to leave!