Fang Zei

digitalfreaknyc said:

Tallguy said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

I’ve been trying to find this out for myself. I wasn’t even born when it originally came out so my first time seeing it in theaters was in the early 90’s. The Nintendo game came out and they had select screenings of it in theaters around the country. There was an ad in Nintendo Power and that’s the only way I knew about it. I’m dying to know the date. 😦

Hmmm. That sounds harder. If my newspaper dive works out I’ll let you know. I know I have no chance of getting the date.

It’s actually much easier. There were screenings all over the country on that one date. I just have to find the damn magazine with the ad and it’ll be done. I even remember which theater I saw it at 😃

Are you the one who used to have that story in your sig about having seen all three unaltered films theatrically in the 90’s or am I thinking of someone else?

rpvee said:

I’d love a series about the fall of Ben Solo, it’d definitely be more dramatic than a book about it.

As for the Celebration surprise(s), someone mentioned earlier the possibility of it being a Lucas appearance. That would be fitting, and I don’t think anyone said the surprise would be any kind of announcement. If anything, the big surprise being merchandise of any kind, including a new home media release, would probably get an underwhelming “making the fans buy the same movies again” response, OOT or not. That doesn’t sound like a fitting enough surprise for such a huge panel.

I’m starting to think you’re right, and that we’re probably getting our hopes up for no good reason at all.

If it ever happens, it will probably be an out of the blue announcement when we least suspect it just like the GOUT was.

joefavs said:

Anyone else really surprised by how normal and mellow Forest Whitaker’s speaking voice is on the special features? I don’t think I’ve ever heard him not doing a voice for a character before.

You mean Forest Whitaker doesn’t sound like his characters from Species and Ghost Dog in real life?

Tobar said:

Dave is on the panel. I could see them announcing the new show he’s been working on.

I probably heard about this at some point and simply forgot, but what new show are you referring to?

The only potential problem (from Fox and Disney’s end of things) with waiting until 2020 is not being able to sell us anything new in the meantime. Disney is conveniently side-stepping this problem with the digital release and the tnt deal, but that only covers non-physical (and non-theatrical) media.

I don’t see Disney waiting too much longer to put out their own movies (TFA, RO) on 4k Ultra HD. Once that happens, the fans are going to wonder what’s going on with the OT. It will be like what happened with the saga’s release on dvd where GL wanted to wait until RotS was also hitting the format, except this time it may actually happen with Episode IX and for entirely different reasons. It’s going to piss off some of the fans who want to enjoy I-VI in the highest quality possible as they wait for Episode IX, which is why I could see Disney authorizing a UHD release within the next couple years and simply letting Fox take their cut.

But now we’re back to the whole problem of people not really giving a shit unless the OOT is restored as well.

Which presents yet another dilemma for Disney. If they do acquiesce and release the OOT in the next year or so, even if it’s just on regular blu it leaves them with one less thing to sell people for the first time post-2020. Not as many people are going to want to rebuy it on UHD.

I wonder who gets to stream/broadcast Rogue One first. IIRC, TFA was the very last movie in Disney’s deal with Starz. Captain America: Civil War (also Disney) went up on Netflix Christmas Day.

Maybe Rogue One will hit Netflix as well before eventually heading to TNT along with TFA.

I bring this up because I don’t feel a pressing need to buy the blu-ray like I did with TFA exactly a year ago but would still like to watch it again via legal means. I’m fine with waiting for 4k, especially since I’d rather pay a couple extra bucks to future-proof (assuming a regular bd copy is included) than pay for stuck-in-1080p quality and a dvd I’ll never watch. If I’m really being honest, I don’t want to buy any Star Wars related media until we’re sure the OOT is being officially restored.

It’s the 40th Anniversary of the original movie and yet we still can’t watch it in an official release approaching modern quality.

The longer they wait, the more clear it will become that they are throwing away money. Harmy’s version gets more and more downloads with each passing day.

This last part is more trivial, but Rian Johnson did slam the SE on his twitter back when the blu-ray was first released.

Even GL showing up wouldn’t kill any remaining possibility of an OOT announcement for me. We already know there’s been a 4k master of the OT-SE for almost three years now. It’s not like the OOT would be in superior quality to that. Most of all, it’s not GL’s money being spent anymore. That’s the entire reason we got the GOUT in the first place instead of something better. He has no reason to care anymore.

I guess they wouldn’t bring it up unless asked.

Didn’t someone ask Kennedy about it at one of the post-2012 Celebrations?

They have to at least address the issue by the time the convention is over, right?

Did it come up at all during last year’s convention in London?

Not getting my hopes up regardless of how many “gigantic winks” they throw our way ahead of time.

John Knoll says Rogue One has about 1,700 vfx shots, placing it roughly halfway between RotJ (at 950) and RotS (at 2,400).

http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-john-knoll-interview/#more-407631

ThiefCobbler4ever said:

My predictions:

-40th anniversary Blu-ray/DVD box set from Fox/Disney

-Announcement that the Fox logo and fanfare will be present for I, II, III, V, and VI come 2020.

It would certainly make sense. Release it on regular blu now and then wait until 2020 to put it out on 4k. Would give people a reason to buy it on the new format (the SE in 4k won’t be enough for many fans).

moviefreakedmind said:

Why would a presumably limited rerelease of the original Star Wars movies even be on their timeline of blockbusters?

It wouldn’t, which is exactly what I said several posts back.

A theatrical re-release of an old movie would only happen during the slower times of the year anyway. The '97 SE was late January to mid March. TPM 3D was February. Titanic and Jurassic Park were April. Disney put out the first two Toy Story movies in 3D during the early Fall, which is the same time Lucasfilm was going to put out AotC/RotS in 2013 before cancelling their release.

towne32 said:

Fang Zei said:

I don’t see why Disney would even have it listed on their slate (even cryptically like that). Fox owns the original movie in perpetuity. I think Disney would want to focus on stuff that’s 100% theirs.

Fox owns the distribution rights, not the film. I have no idea how big of a slice that cuts from Disney. But if it’s something that cannot be changed, and profits can be generated from the property despite the distribution rights, I do not see why they would not pursue that. Obviously, the films with expiring distribution rights make more sense to wait on.

Yeah, but I just don’t see why Disney would be including something they only own the rights to retroactively (and then only partially) in a discussion of their upcoming slate of films that are otherwise their own wholly owned original IP.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Plus there’s the will Disney releade the OOT thread in the comparison sub forum.

Which people post in very infrequently.

Seeing as how it’s only ten days away, I don’t see the harm in having two threads going. If by some chance there is an announcement there will be a new thread anyway. Either way, this thread will be abandoned in a couple weeks once the convention is over.

I don’t see why Disney would even have it listed on their slate (even cryptically like that). Fox owns the original movie in perpetuity. I think Disney would want to focus on stuff that’s 100% theirs.

I really don’t think “untitled fairy tale” would have anything to do with Star Wars.

They’re not going to release a new transfer of the SE on blu unless it’s either a UHD release or it includes a restored OOT.

No one will care if it’s simply a new transfer of the SE on regular blu.

Lucasfilm held back the deleted scenes from the '04 dvd so they would have something to incentivize a rebuy on the next format. I can’t think of anything that big that they can use to sell us the movies yet again, aside from the obvious.

What exactly were the bonus features on the digital release a couple years ago?

digitalfreaknyc said:

Not to throw fuel on the fire but, considering the rumor about July 28th being a theatrical re-release of the original…

This magazine is coming out July 25. Now, it could totally be coincidence but isn’t it a bit strange that a 40th Anniversary book is coming out 3 days before this supposed theatrical re-release? Instead of in May?

First I’m hearing about this rumor. Was it brought up earlier in the thread or did news (well, rumor) of it just break somewhere else?

I would change the “4k release will be made” from SPECULATION to INEVITABILITY, at least so far as the SE is concerned.

Do we know who’s idea that was (erasing the snake pit reflection)? Spielberg has said he regrets ever making the SE of E.T. and said back in 2012 that all new releases of his existing films going forward would be completely unaltered.

I’m assuming they erased the reflection yet again for the 2012 4k master. Was the 2003 dvd the first time they meddled with it or is it gone on the laserdisc as well? In any event, I’m guessing it was George’s idea.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Aliens is available in both cuts on the BD.

Yeah but it’s still not 100% the original unaltered version because Cameron couldn’t help himself / leave well enough alone and made a few “fixes” like erasing Lance Henricksen’a visible torso in one shot of the final scene. In the scene where Ripley and Newt are stuck in the room with the facehugger and Ripley tries slamming a chair against the window, visible marks on the glass from previous takes were erased for the bd. I’ve heard other shots were tinkered with but never seen definitive before-and-after screenshot comparisons. It’s not even the '86 version editorially since there was actually an editing error when Ripley pulls a couple different guns from the rack that was correctly reordered for the blu-ray.

The color-timing doesn’t bother me, though. I saw a photo from a 16mm print and it actually looks closer to the blu-ray.

Fox is probably just waiting to put it out on 4k as well.

While we’re on the subject of True Lies, I find it interesting that burying his own movie in non-anamorphic dvd quality is yet another thing Cameron shares in common with Lucas. He already made digital changes (albeit subtly) to Titanic and Aliens after calling the Star Wars SE “a revision of history.”

I’m sure True Lies will eventually get a new release as well. Maybe Cameron can record a “special introduction.” Remember how he did that for the sci-fi channel broadcast of The Abyss back in the 90’s?

I do wonder though if Cameron would have the power to halt any release of True Lies on a new format entirely. I’ve heard he insists on signing off on any new transfers of his movies (Aliens was the only movie not given a new transfer for the Quadrilogy set in 2003 since it was already anamorphic and therefore “good enough”). Then again, Fox did take the hd transfer they made for the cancelled “five-star collection” dvd release and put it out on d-theater.*

There’s also an open-matte 16:9 version that’s been playing on cable recently, presumably from an even newer transfer. The AFI Silver even screened a 35mm print as part of a 90’s series within the last couple years. Fox doesn’t seem that embarrassed by it.

*You wonder why they didn’t just quietly reissue it on dvd with the newer transfer, for those of us who cared about quality. I’m guessing they stopped pressing new copies entirely post-9/11? Yet they still put out the d-theater! Where could you even buy those things anyway?!

I notice Mark Hamill and Billy Dee Williams are the only actors on the panel who had no involvement whatsoever with the PT.

As for Hayden’s presence killing any chance of an OOT announcement because of potential “awkwardness,” I doubt he cares one way or the other. It’s beside the point anyway since the SE will still be the official version.

Hey, maybe this means we’re getting the theatrical prequels as well!

nickyd47 said:

As far as I’m concerned, the only reason why we wouldn’t get the OOT now is because the current Blu rays and digital versions of the films sell enough for the studios not to care. I don’t think George has this control in some kind of contract or anything

If the current blu-rays / digital versions are still selling well enough for them not to care, sure. But if it isn’t, and they think an OOT release will make them some money, they’ll do it.