The series will feature fan-favorite “Squirrel Girl” (Doreen Green) as a totally empowering fan girl—tough, optimistic and a natural leader.
Anyone but Daisy Ridley in the role and I’m out.
Wasn’t Anna Kendrick half-jokingly suggested for the role not too long ago?
The extensive LotR appendices, completed in 2004 with the Extended Edition of Return of the King, were also done in SD. At least they and EoD were 16:9. The Alien Quadrilogy making-ofs from right around that same time (2003/2004) were 4:3 and had to be both cropped and upscaled when they were carried over to the blu-ray in 2010.
Dangerous Days was made in 2007 but only released on a regular dvd across all of the various SKUs of Blade Runner released that year (even for the bd and hddvd). It’s 16:9 and looks like it could have been done at a higher resolution and then downscaled. I’m not sure if this was ever definitively answered, but it’s been ten years and the documentary was never released in hd.
Why crop them? Why? Don’t fuck with the aspect ratio, for God’s sake!
If you’re referring to the Quadrilogy making-ofs, they cropped it from 4:3 to 16:9 for the Anthology blu-ray because the recorded 4:3 interviews, whether film or video based, left enough extra room either above or below people’s heads to sustain that much cropping.
“Yes, but why even crop it at all?” you might ask. Well, since people buying the blu-ray are more than likely going to watch it on their 16:9 hdtv, watching the shots where they show 2.35:1 film footage with black bars on all four sides would be a little underwhelming. Especially when they’re watching the movies themselves not only “enhanced for 16:9 tv” as they say on dvd packaging, but in full 1080p hd.
What exactly does it mean for the negative to be disassembled?
The negative has been conformed to the SE since 1997. George decided to cut the changes directly into the negative because, as far as he was concerned, the SE was the official version of the movie now.
We recently got confirmation from the relevant person at Fox that the pieces of the negative replaced for the SE were indeed put into storage and not discarded.
I think I remember reading on zombie’s website that the negative need not be disassembled to reconstruct the unaltered version. Because a modern restoration would be done digitally anyway, they would simply need to take a scan of the o-neg as it is now, scan in the pieces that got replaced, and rebuild everything in the digital realm.
For further context, the negative is the first-generation source for the footage used in the final cut. They are also without any color timing as that comes later in the process, and unlike a 35mm print, which is a few generations down from the negative, there is only one layer of grain to deal with (this is not the case with SW as there is optical compositing).*
*if I’ve made any mistakes, please correct me.
Would any IPs or separation masters still be usable and around?
Nothing I’m reading here suggests ANY hope for a remastered OOT.
The separation masters are still intact, as are other film elements closer to the o-neg than the theatrical prints.
Robert A. Harris emphasized several years ago that “these assets are well-protected.” If a user on the blu-ray.com forums is to be believed, Disney has been meticulously going through every last piece of Star Wars film material and scanning them in. It’s simply a matter of time … and of timing.
When the 4k UHD release inevitably happens, the prequels will be released same day as the OT and probably packaged with it just like the “saga” was back in 2011.
You can count on it.
Being stuck in 2k hasn’t stopped all these other movies from getting released in 4k. There’s even been at least one movie that was shot in 1080p like AotC/RotS released on 4k (Resident Evil: Afterlife).
I was still hoping that they were planning on announcing an OOT re-release at Celebration, but after yesterday’s episode of the Star Wars Show, I’m not so sure anymore. It sounds like they’re teasing a surprise appearance (George Lucas?).
That being said, I talked to Jason Ward on Twitter a while ago and he still thinks that something OOT related is going on at Lucasfilm. So maybe there’s a chance.There’s always Comic-Con.
Celebration will be about remembering Carrie and hyping up Episode VIII and the Han Solo movie. It actually makes sense that they wouldn’t want to make a huge announcement about the OOT in the midst of all that.
Why, exactly? Are they afraid OOT would make everyone forget about the new movies? “Ehh, we got the original movies now, we don’t care about your sequel movies and EU movies anymore, or anything else you do.”
Well, to quote that guy from Wired magazine in September of '06 when the GOUT was released:
“They’re not going to make the fans happy because the happy fan has everything he or she needs. They will kill the goose that laid the golden egg, they will cook it, and they will sell the bones on ebay.”
He also sarcastically quipped right before saying the above quote that “someday they’ll release a version that will actually transform you into a nine-year-old again.”
I bring all this up because I can’t help but think this is exactly what Disney is doing with the new movies. They’re mining our nostalgia in order to sell tickets. A not insignificant number of fans would probably “have everything they need” if Disney would simply restore and release the original versions.
Maybe my logic is flawed here, but that’s just how I see it.
I was still hoping that they were planning on announcing an OOT re-release at Celebration, but after yesterday’s episode of the Star Wars Show, I’m not so sure anymore. It sounds like they’re teasing a surprise appearance (George Lucas?).
That being said, I talked to Jason Ward on Twitter a while ago and he still thinks that something OOT related is going on at Lucasfilm. So maybe there’s a chance.
There’s always Comic-Con.
Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me if they announced it out of the blue some time in May just like the GOUT (maybe on May 25th?) and then waited until Comic-Con to unveil a trailer.
Celebration will be about remembering Carrie and hyping up Episode VIII and the Han Solo movie. It actually makes sense that they wouldn’t want to make a huge announcement about the OOT in the midst of all that.
Is it possible they took certain shots from the bd and others from the RMW restoration?
The Star Wars Show again hinted at something huge happening during the 40 Year Anniversary panel today…
Aye, they made a pretty big deal about it…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4FnHBITnTw (about 1m 10s in)
“The sand-hating Sith Lord.”
It’s nice to see even they have a sense of humor about that line.
As for whatever surprises they have in store, “if you’re there you’re going to want to BE IN THE ROOM for this” doesn’t really scream “restored OOT” to me. That really seems to point much more in the direction of what others have been saying, namely a surprise appearance from Harrison Ford or GL himself.
Honestly, it wouldn’t matter if it’s not at the opening panel, I don’t even need an announcement that it’s happening this year. I just want someone at this convention to address the issue.
I had a full-sized video poster for LOTR: The Two Towers that I got at the midnight release for the theatrical dvd way back in August of '03. Not sure if it got thrown out or if it’s still rolled up in a cardboard tube, but it had sustained several major rips the last time I saw it.
I’ve been trying to find this out for myself. I wasn’t even born when it originally came out so my first time seeing it in theaters was in the early 90’s. The Nintendo game came out and they had select screenings of it in theaters around the country. There was an ad in Nintendo Power and that’s the only way I knew about it. I’m dying to know the date. 😦
Hmmm. That sounds harder. If my newspaper dive works out I’ll let you know. I know I have no chance of getting the date.
It’s actually much easier. There were screenings all over the country on that one date. I just have to find the damn magazine with the ad and it’ll be done. I even remember which theater I saw it at 😃
Are you the one who used to have that story in your sig about having seen all three unaltered films theatrically in the 90’s or am I thinking of someone else?
I’d love a series about the fall of Ben Solo, it’d definitely be more dramatic than a book about it.
As for the Celebration surprise(s), someone mentioned earlier the possibility of it being a Lucas appearance. That would be fitting, and I don’t think anyone said the surprise would be any kind of announcement. If anything, the big surprise being merchandise of any kind, including a new home media release, would probably get an underwhelming “making the fans buy the same movies again” response, OOT or not. That doesn’t sound like a fitting enough surprise for such a huge panel.
I’m starting to think you’re right, and that we’re probably getting our hopes up for no good reason at all.
If it ever happens, it will probably be an out of the blue announcement when we least suspect it just like the GOUT was.
Anyone else really surprised by how normal and mellow Forest Whitaker’s speaking voice is on the special features? I don’t think I’ve ever heard him not doing a voice for a character before.
You mean Forest Whitaker doesn’t sound like his characters from Species and Ghost Dog in real life?
Dave is on the panel. I could see them announcing the new show he’s been working on.
I probably heard about this at some point and simply forgot, but what new show are you referring to?
The only potential problem (from Fox and Disney’s end of things) with waiting until 2020 is not being able to sell us anything new in the meantime. Disney is conveniently side-stepping this problem with the digital release and the tnt deal, but that only covers non-physical (and non-theatrical) media.
I don’t see Disney waiting too much longer to put out their own movies (TFA, RO) on 4k Ultra HD. Once that happens, the fans are going to wonder what’s going on with the OT. It will be like what happened with the saga’s release on dvd where GL wanted to wait until RotS was also hitting the format, except this time it may actually happen with Episode IX and for entirely different reasons. It’s going to piss off some of the fans who want to enjoy I-VI in the highest quality possible as they wait for Episode IX, which is why I could see Disney authorizing a UHD release within the next couple years and simply letting Fox take their cut.
But now we’re back to the whole problem of people not really giving a shit unless the OOT is restored as well.
Which presents yet another dilemma for Disney. If they do acquiesce and release the OOT in the next year or so, even if it’s just on regular blu it leaves them with one less thing to sell people for the first time post-2020. Not as many people are going to want to rebuy it on UHD.
I wonder who gets to stream/broadcast Rogue One first. IIRC, TFA was the very last movie in Disney’s deal with Starz. Captain America: Civil War (also Disney) went up on Netflix Christmas Day.
Maybe Rogue One will hit Netflix as well before eventually heading to TNT along with TFA.
I bring this up because I don’t feel a pressing need to buy the blu-ray like I did with TFA exactly a year ago but would still like to watch it again via legal means. I’m fine with waiting for 4k, especially since I’d rather pay a couple extra bucks to future-proof (assuming a regular bd copy is included) than pay for stuck-in-1080p quality and a dvd I’ll never watch. If I’m really being honest, I don’t want to buy any Star Wars related media until we’re sure the OOT is being officially restored.
It’s the 40th Anniversary of the original movie and yet we still can’t watch it in an official release approaching modern quality.
The longer they wait, the more clear it will become that they are throwing away money. Harmy’s version gets more and more downloads with each passing day.
This last part is more trivial, but Rian Johnson did slam the SE on his twitter back when the blu-ray was first released.
Even GL showing up wouldn’t kill any remaining possibility of an OOT announcement for me. We already know there’s been a 4k master of the OT-SE for almost three years now. It’s not like the OOT would be in superior quality to that. Most of all, it’s not GL’s money being spent anymore. That’s the entire reason we got the GOUT in the first place instead of something better. He has no reason to care anymore.
I guess they wouldn’t bring it up unless asked.
Didn’t someone ask Kennedy about it at one of the post-2012 Celebrations?
They have to at least address the issue by the time the convention is over, right?
Did it come up at all during last year’s convention in London?
Not getting my hopes up regardless of how many “gigantic winks” they throw our way ahead of time.
John Knoll says Rogue One has about 1,700 vfx shots, placing it roughly halfway between RotJ (at 950) and RotS (at 2,400).
http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-john-knoll-interview/#more-407631
My predictions:
-40th anniversary Blu-ray/DVD box set from Fox/Disney
-Announcement that the Fox logo and fanfare will be present for I, II, III, V, and VI come 2020.
It would certainly make sense. Release it on regular blu now and then wait until 2020 to put it out on 4k. Would give people a reason to buy it on the new format (the SE in 4k won’t be enough for many fans).
Why would a presumably limited rerelease of the original Star Wars movies even be on their timeline of blockbusters?
It wouldn’t, which is exactly what I said several posts back.
A theatrical re-release of an old movie would only happen during the slower times of the year anyway. The '97 SE was late January to mid March. TPM 3D was February. Titanic and Jurassic Park were April. Disney put out the first two Toy Story movies in 3D during the early Fall, which is the same time Lucasfilm was going to put out AotC/RotS in 2013 before cancelling their release.
I don’t see why Disney would even have it listed on their slate (even cryptically like that). Fox owns the original movie in perpetuity. I think Disney would want to focus on stuff that’s 100% theirs.
Fox owns the distribution rights, not the film. I have no idea how big of a slice that cuts from Disney. But if it’s something that cannot be changed, and profits can be generated from the property despite the distribution rights, I do not see why they would not pursue that. Obviously, the films with expiring distribution rights make more sense to wait on.
Yeah, but I just don’t see why Disney would be including something they only own the rights to retroactively (and then only partially) in a discussion of their upcoming slate of films that are otherwise their own wholly owned original IP.
Plus there’s the will Disney releade the OOT thread in the comparison sub forum.
Which people post in very infrequently.
Seeing as how it’s only ten days away, I don’t see the harm in having two threads going. If by some chance there is an announcement there will be a new thread anyway. Either way, this thread will be abandoned in a couple weeks once the convention is over.
I don’t see why Disney would even have it listed on their slate (even cryptically like that). Fox owns the original movie in perpetuity. I think Disney would want to focus on stuff that’s 100% theirs.