Emre1601

https://nerdist.com/article/star-wars-detour-animated-show-weird-al-songs/

“Weird Al” Yankovic had written tons of original new songs for Star Wars Detours. All for what would have been the show’s third season. Yankovic shared what might have been on Connor Ratliff’s The George Lucas Talk Show. Here’s what he had to say:

“We were working on a Star Wars musical, that was a third-season show, we were writing songs, and all of a sudden, it was like, ‘This is not gonna happen.’ […] I don’t know that I’m allowed [to talk about it]. There were, gosh, at least half a dozen or more songs as part of the musical and the various characters in the show. We actually recorded them singing their songs, and that was about a week before we found out that the show was not happening.”
 

That sounds so cool. I hope we get to see them some day. Or at least the Weird Al songs.

It is not my idea, but one that I though could work. Maybe for a Disney+ short film:

Empire Academy

"The film would take us on the journey of becoming an Imperial Stormtrooper, from cadet to graduation. As close as we can get to a Disney version of Full Metal Jacket in space. For the most part, Stormtroopers are one of the best running jokes in Star Wars. Their infamous inaccuracy is the source of many jokes and memes on the internet. We think it’s about time for Stormtroopers to be respected for the highly trained soldiers that they are.

In Star Wars: The Force Awakens, Disney gave us a Stormtrooper we could care about, they humanized the role, gave us a face, that had a story, and a person struggling with inner turmoil. We think it would be a great idea to continue this trend, and watch a soldier go from cadet to trooper and to give more legitimacy to the army of the most powerful military force in the galaxy."
 

A character study of what it like to be stormtrooper. The realization and uncomfortable facts of being one, the inner conflict, the scorn of friends and family, and doing things you do not actually want to do or agree with.

Or something different to that and more along the lines of a modern updated version of Troops!

kyberangel said:

TFA was how i fell in love with star wars.

I agree with NeverarGreat’s take on your post above, this was a well articulated read and put me in your shoes a new a new fan coming into Star Wars, and experiencing a whole new trilogy.

I hope you like fan edits and hope you can a version of TROS that may appeal to you. Hal9000’s TROS edit is very well liked, addresses many issues fans had with the conclusion of the Sequels, though there are many other TROS edits too. I appreciate it is not the same experience, but hope you can find a version of TROS you do like and serves a more fitting ending, a better resolution.

kyberangel said:

i view it as a series teeming with phenomenal ideas that were marred by execution. an ambitious story with a lot to say politically, written and directed by a man well known since the OT to be less than stellar at dialogue and no longer as interested in actor direction as he was VFX technology (which isn’t an inherently bad thing, i just think he should have hired a writer)

i think its main downfall was lucas’ overindulgence. the OT was as good as it was because he was still relatively unknown and therefore had people (his wife, the actors and other crew) who weren’t afraid to curb his worst impulses and touch-up his rough dialogue. in the PT he had full creative control and massive industry sway; people weren’t about to tell THE man who invented the action blockbuster “no”. a notable example is a lot of hayden christensen’s disparged acting choices being to be a result of him, an unknown theater actor, wanting to please george lucas even if he thought anakin should be acted a different way.

that doesn’t mean there weren’t moments of brilliance, or that things didn’t improve as the trilogy went on. revenge of the sith is the obvious high point, with both the opera scene and the back-and-forth between anakin slaughtering the trade federation while palpatine overthrows a democracy before the senate’s very eyes being particularly inspired.

(“so this is how liberty dies. with thunderous applause”, is the most metal line said in star wars ever george kinda went crazy no lie)

ROTS is my favorite star wars movie, but that doesn’t mean i think its the best one. i can appreciate what good the prequel trilogy has and still acknowledge the ways it missed the mark.

That is very well reasoned and concise post. I personally do not like ROTS much, but am happy to see others post they do and explain what they enjoyed about it.

“Not every day you get to chat with one of your favorite #StarWars authors. Great meeting Michael Stackpole who told me he was highly excited about the upcoming #RogueSquadron movie and assured me Patty Jenkins had been in contact with him early on.”

https://twitter.com/jedi4liberty/status/1505262141212958720?s=21
 

This pleases me very much. I loved the games and his X Wing and Rogue Squadron books, so I am pleased the film may have some input or advice from Michael Stackpole, even if only a little.

If the film does well then maybe a new tie-in game, or update of the old RS games too?

Stardust1138 said:

Emre1601 said:

It is disappointing to see you think so low of peoples’ opinions when they do align with yours. And that you insult others and dismiss the opinions of those who are critical of George and Prequels in this manner. But at least your opinion on people who think differently is clear.

It’s not the people themselves that I take an issue with as they have every right to their opinion. Sometimes I even find myself agreeing on a personal level. Everyone has an opinion and in life we’re not meant to always agree on everything but that’s where human sympathy is more valuable. It’s inevitable that we can’t all see eye to eye on every little thing. However an opinion is different from being able to view things from an artistic standpoint of visual literacy and everything else I’m hammering on and on about. I’m stopping though as I see now nobody wants to ask the questions of why or how but merely what reinforces their opinions on what something is supposed to be. It’s a sad thing to me how some can’t see the difference between having a personal opinion on something and reading things for what the artist intended or did in fact include in their works.

I was serious when I suggested you start a “visual literacy” thread - separate to other threads focusing about what happens on screen. Some people may not agree with or be too engaged in it, and that it doesn’t affects their view of what occurs in the films onscreen, but it is still an interesting and alternative way of viewing films (and films outside of Star Wars too).

Many people did not like or agree with the Star Wars ring theory. That may be because it brought little to what the they had see and experienced onscreen, and it could have done without the subtitle “the hidden artistry of the Prequels” as much of it was already known, but not in a central hub as Mike Klimo had taken the time and effort to compile. But it was still interesting feature to read about and learn.

I too will not mention this again as it is not what the focus of the thread is about.

Stardust1138 said:

Emre1601 said:

Stardust1138 said:

Emre1601 said:

SparkySywer said:

Stardust1138 said:

SparkySywer said:

Stardust1138 said:

StarkillerAG said:

• Obi-Wan doesn’t remember owning a droid, despite having owned a droid for at least 3 years

2. During the Clone Wars he has a very low opinion of droids and thinks they can be easily replaced.

Considering a droid replaceable and never owning a droid are different things

Not necessarily. He could have such a low opinion that he couldn’t care less for remembering their names or having one.

That’s a really insane stretch man

Mental gymnastics and insane stretches have always been required by Prequel fans when in discussion with others who did not enjoy these films or point out the discrepancies between the two trilogies. I am surprised many Prequel fans themselves rarely seem to question why Lucas’ poor writing for the later Trilogy created so many needless plot-holes and contradictions, and still look to use such gymnastics and stretches instead.

Or you know trying to understand why George made the choices he did. Sometimes it could be perceived as stretching with certain issues like Obi-Wan possibly experiencing PTSD but it’s only because we don’t know exactly what he was thinking with x and y sometimes. Star Wars is just as much participation of the audience as it is George’s answers. It’s part of the experience with Star Wars that you can have your own explanation of the way things are until George gives concrete details that adds to the mythos he already created with say the Whills and Midi-Chlorians connection to the Force. It’s almost certainly all been there in some shape or form from the very beginning but it took time for the story to develop and evolved a lot in the span of nearly forty years. He always did what served the story first. It’s like The Clone Wars eventually giving a probable definitive answer to why Obi-Wan doesn’t really remember ever owning a droid. He had a low opinion of them. It’s probably not what fans envisioned or some wanted the answer to be but that’s his explanation and at the end of the day that’s where fan explanation stops and you understand author’s intention. You should ask how and why instead of what. Episodes I-VI, The Clone Wars series, and his Sequel Trilogy treatments are the definitive final word in what is and isn’t Star Wars. Anything that comes afterwards is fanfiction. We can’t be spoon fed every little detail or even know everything. Some things must remain a mystery for audience and creative alike. There’s no fun in knowing everything and he recongised that as all the greats do. These are his stories and at the end of the day that’s Star Wars for better or worse depending on who you ask. Now it’s run though by a corporation who pays fanfiction writers. Some of it might actually be good but it’s unlikely it will ever be consistently good or in line with George’s values.

That is a lot of words attempting to justify mental gymnastics and stretches, that somehow veers off into something else which has nothing to do with what I posted. Like many other fans I am only interested in what happens on screen, and this is the subject of the Opening Post of thread between the Original and Prequel Trilogies.

I am not interested in George’s thoughts, his intentions, or what happened outside the two trilogies many years later. Or what you think is his definitive Sequel Trilogy treatments are. Nor your thoughts on modern-era Star Wars or other grandstanding in your post. Just what happened onscreen. I know you do not like or agree with this because of your posts to the last person who stated a similar viewpoint resulted in you apologising for insulting them when they were only interested in what occurred on screen.

Your writing style and prowse are very good, interesting to read and you are obviously passionate about what you believe. I enjoy your posts, even the twists and interpretations you put into them after others here prove you are mistaken with facts.

Yet many people are only interested what happens on screen. If many fans find some of the attempts to explain the discrepancies between the two Trilogies onscreen to be an insane stretch, or to be yet more of the mental gymnastics provided for other discrepancies between the two trilogies, then it likely means they are still waiting or looking for a better answer for these discrepancies than has been provided so far.

Being pointed to looking at George’s intentions, additional materials and content, or grandstanding on the “definitive final word in what is and isn’t Star Wars”, or “George’s values” just doesn’t cut it.

It’s all right there on the screen and not just what I’ve learned years later. Everything that is essential to understanding the films is within them. The problem I find is the unwillingness of some outright refusing to look pass their own personal viewpoints and attachments to the series. Isn’t it just as good to challenge ourselves than merely looking at things only how we want to see it? I don’t find there’s as many plotholes between the two trilogies as many want to claim there to be. Just as I think there’s things the audience can think are important but aren’t actually in the grand scheme of things to being needed to understand the greater whole. There’s plenty of things that can happen off screen. I don’t blame people themselves despite how I may have come across but more so how they’re taught. A very important skill I find is visual literacy but it’s not taught in our culture. The most glaring example where this is an issue that I can think of within Star Wars is the fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan on Mustafar. Some fans will complain it runs too long, it’s all spectacle and no substance, and that Obi-Wan never backups later claims that he once thought as Luke did. The thing is it’s not about runtime as if a sequence is meant to go on, let it. Secondly when we see the volcano erupt it represents Anakin’s inner turmoil erupting and equally when we see him and Obi-Wan swinging with the ropes it could be seen as representing the blurring reality of the situation as not long after Obi-Wan says he has failed Anakin. Most importantly Obi-Wan fights nearly the entire fight in defence. He’s looking to protect and bring Anakin back the entire time. Unfortunately many tend to miss these nuances because they’re not taught to look out for them. Ironic people claim George can’t tell his stories without some melodramatic dialogue but here he is illustrating his skills and prose as a visual filmmaker and communicator.

This is no different to what you have already posted in the Prequel Trilogy thread. And it certainly is not “there on screen”, as people wouldn’t be still talking about the large number of discrepancies between the two Trilogies some 20 years later.

You may say it is “unwillingness of some outright refusing to look pass their own personal viewpoints” - but they are actually discussing these discrepancies still. The willingness and openness is there. Because you do not like or agree with what they think (some call it mental gymnastics and stretches) this does not mean they are unwilling to look for answers. Or have already looked for “deeper dives” as others put it on here, but have still not found answers to their sanctification.

“Visual literacy” also has no impact on explaining the many discrepancies between the two trilogies, no matter how many times you mention this, or want others to give the films more consideration than you assume they have not already given. Perhaps you should start a thread on “visual literacy” instead of derailing other threads with this off-topic deflection away from what others are discussing.

Your example of “Anakin’s inner turmoil erupting and equally when we see him and Obi-Wan swinging with the ropes it could be seen as representing the blurring reality of the situation as not long after Obi-Wan says he has failed Anakin.” is, as you state, “a could be”, an interpretation. It also could not be. It is also nothing to do with the discrepancies being discussed.

“He’s looking to protect and bring Anakin back the entire time.” Such exaggeration is not what occurred on screen. Yes, Kenobi is trying to make see Anakin the error of his ways, to bring him to the light, but your claim is not true:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onRnL6MBunU - at 1 minute and 28 seconds into the video - Kenobi brings his blade down on Anakin and would have killed him if not for Anakin’s quick defensive move. There may be other examples too.
 

“Did Lucas forget that Obi Wan served Bail Organa in the Clone Wars?” Yes, he did. As many others have stated. Is it a big thing? This depends on your point of view and everyone’s opinion is different, maybe. To me this is a small discrepancy when compared to others. As another example of the large number of strange, needless or lazy discrepancies between the trilogies? Yes. But some people may not be concerned by the discrepancies and still dislike the Prequels from what they saw onscreen. All different opinions, all valid. Not lazy or showing “unwillingness of some outright refusing to look pass their own personal viewpoints” because they do not agree with yours.

It is disappointing to see you think so low of peoples’ opinions when they do align with yours. And that you insult others and dismiss the opinions of those who are critical of George and Prequels in this manner. But at least your opinion on people who think differently is clear.

A number of articles and YouTube videos out today with actual gameplay footage. It all looks very enticing and fun 😃

One of the things I loved about the older Lego Star Wars video games were the vehicle levels, and the flying levels in this game look very cool and appealing.

“Gameplay Walkthrough Demo (Part 1 - The Last Jedi)” : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJa82n8AFQw (5 minutes)

“Open World Free Roam Gameplay (Demo)” : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZxh6cwNwg (9 minutes)

Stardust1138 said:

Emre1601 said:

SparkySywer said:

Stardust1138 said:

SparkySywer said:

Stardust1138 said:

StarkillerAG said:

• Obi-Wan doesn’t remember owning a droid, despite having owned a droid for at least 3 years

2. During the Clone Wars he has a very low opinion of droids and thinks they can be easily replaced.

Considering a droid replaceable and never owning a droid are different things

Not necessarily. He could have such a low opinion that he couldn’t care less for remembering their names or having one.

That’s a really insane stretch man

Mental gymnastics and insane stretches have always been required by Prequel fans when in discussion with others who did not enjoy these films or point out the discrepancies between the two trilogies. I am surprised many Prequel fans themselves rarely seem to question why Lucas’ poor writing for the later Trilogy created so many needless plot-holes and contradictions, and still look to use such gymnastics and stretches instead.

Or you know trying to understand why George made the choices he did. Sometimes it could be perceived as stretching with certain issues like Obi-Wan possibly experiencing PTSD but it’s only because we don’t know exactly what he was thinking with x and y sometimes. Star Wars is just as much participation of the audience as it is George’s answers. It’s part of the experience with Star Wars that you can have your own explanation of the way things are until George gives concrete details that adds to the mythos he already created with say the Whills and Midi-Chlorians connection to the Force. It’s almost certainly all been there in some shape or form from the very beginning but it took time for the story to develop and evolved a lot in the span of nearly forty years. He always did what served the story first. It’s like The Clone Wars eventually giving a probable definitive answer to why Obi-Wan doesn’t really remember ever owning a droid. He had a low opinion of them. It’s probably not what fans envisioned or some wanted the answer to be but that’s his explanation and at the end of the day that’s where fan explanation stops and you understand author’s intention. You should ask how and why instead of what. Episodes I-VI, The Clone Wars series, and his Sequel Trilogy treatments are the definitive final word in what is and isn’t Star Wars. Anything that comes afterwards is fanfiction. We can’t be spoon fed every little detail or even know everything. Some things must remain a mystery for audience and creative alike. There’s no fun in knowing everything and he recongised that as all the greats do. These are his stories and at the end of the day that’s Star Wars for better or worse depending on who you ask. Now it’s run though by a corporation who pays fanfiction writers. Some of it might actually be good but it’s unlikely it will ever be consistently good or in line with George’s values.

That is a lot of words attempting to justify mental gymnastics and stretches, that somehow veers off into something else which has nothing to do with what I posted. Like many other fans I am only interested in what happens on screen, and this is the subject of the Opening Post of thread between the Original and Prequel Trilogies.

I am not interested in George’s thoughts, his intentions, or what happened outside the two trilogies many years later. Or what you think is his definitive Sequel Trilogy treatments are. Nor your thoughts on modern-era Star Wars or other grandstanding in your post. Just what happened onscreen. I know you do not like or agree with this because of your posts to the last person who stated a similar viewpoint (in the Prequel Trilogy thread) resulted in you apologising for insulting them when they were only interested in what occurred on screen.

Your writing style and prowse are very good, interesting to read and you are obviously passionate about what you believe. I enjoy your posts, even the twists and interpretations you put into them after others here prove you are mistaken with facts.

Yet many people are only interested what happens on screen. If many fans find some of the attempts to explain the discrepancies between the two Trilogies onscreen to be an insane stretch, or to be yet more of the mental gymnastics provided for other discrepancies between the two trilogies, then it likely means they are still waiting or looking for a better answer for these discrepancies than has been provided so far.

Being pointed to looking at George’s intentions, additional materials and video content, or grandstanding on the “definitive final word in what is and isn’t Star Wars”, or “George’s values” just doesn’t cut it.

SparkySywer said:

Stardust1138 said:

SparkySywer said:

Stardust1138 said:

StarkillerAG said:

• Obi-Wan doesn’t remember owning a droid, despite having owned a droid for at least 3 years

2. During the Clone Wars he has a very low opinion of droids and thinks they can be easily replaced.

Considering a droid replaceable and never owning a droid are different things

Not necessarily. He could have such a low opinion that he couldn’t care less for remembering their names or having one.

That’s a really insane stretch man

Mental gymnastics and insane stretches have always been required by Prequel fans when in discussion with others who did not enjoy these films or point out the discrepancies between the two trilogies. I am surprised many Prequel fans themselves rarely seem to question why Lucas’ poor writing for the later Trilogy created so many needless plot-holes and contradictions, and still look to use such gymnastics and stretches instead.

Stardust1138 said:

The Star Wars Archives Episodes I-III: 1999-2005 by Paul Duncan.

I’ve been wanting to read this book for quite awhile now. I’m really looking forward to its arrival to learn in-depth about my favourite era of the series more than what has ever been released before as it is told through various collaborators and detailed contents such as scripts and concept art, learning more about George’s Sequel plans than what has made it online, and of course hearing directly from him his philosophy and way of seeing life. I feel it’s going to be such an immersive and emotional experience. It will also be a great resource in my continued growth in telling stories of my own. I can’t wait!

Ooof! doubleofive has highlighted many of the mistakes this author’s claims on his Star Wars Visual Comparisons website, and I am told oojason and others also “pulled it apart” on the OT Discord for the number of mistakes and false claims. People who worked on the actual Prequel films and Special Editions have also corrected the author of the book online.

Will there be a second edition with many of the mistakes corrected soon? For Ç150 I would wait for a second version or ask the author or publisher if there is a corrected version planned. Mistakes happen, but I would have expected “a Star Wars historian” and author to have fact checked their work more thoroughly before release. Especially when asking Ç150 for their work.

I do hope you enjoy the book regardless of these problems, and Paul Duncan’s other mistaken online claims about Star Wars history.

ZkinandBonez said:

Emre1601 said:

I wonder if this refers not just to Vader, but possibly others who may have switched allegiances as well?

The inquisitors used to be Jedi so he might have met some of them before, or even fought beside them during the Clone Wars.

Ah. My hopes of seeing a reunion of Kenobi with a Dark Side Dexter Jettster at the 1950’s cafe will live on! 😃
 

That would be good story material to see Kenobi have to now have go up against old Jedi friends or other people he knew now loyal to the Empire.

Your project sounds cool Ahmesi. It would likely get more interest if you asked the moderators to move it into the “Star Wars Fan Edits” part of this forum, where lots of other projects are discussed and more people may talk about this?

Have you managed much progress in your edit so far? Do you also have an ideas list or cut list?

The Disney+ description for the Obi-Wan Kenobi series:

I wonder if this refers not just to Vader, but possibly others who may have switched allegiances as well?

I’m not much of a fan of TROS. Yes, some great ideas and concepts are there, but the execution of them left much to be desired for me.

This article has some fantastic artwork from the film:

“The Rise Of Skywalker: A Design Case Study”

https://www.ilm.com/art-department/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-a-design-case-study/

ken-obi said:

darklordoftech said:

This way it would be Palpatine pushing Anakin toward the Dark Side rather than Padmé seeing nothing wrong with slaughtering children. Palpatine being the only one who knows what Anakin did to the Tuskens would explain why Padmé didn’t see his turn coming.

Yes, Palpatine would have been a better choice for the line. But given the way the so called romance or love story was written in AOTC it is doubtful even this line could have saved or made it less “icky”, toxic, controlling or abusive.

Maybe Anakin instead could have said:

“Please don’t look at me like that.
Palaptine : Why not?
Anakin : Because it makes me feel uncomfortable”

and gone on from there. It would have made more sense!
 

Anakin about Padme in her sleeping quarters: “She covered the cameras. I don’t think she liked me watching her.” She is obviously uncomfortable with Anakin watching her, again.

Anakin later blames Padme for “the kiss that you should never have given me”, despite it Anakin being the person to instigate that kiss, before Padme quickly put a stop to his advances.

Anakin to Padme: “I… I killed them. I killed them all. They’re dead… every single one of them. And not just the men. But the women… and the children, too. They’re like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals! I HATE THEM!”

There is obviously a lot more to this, from Anakin disrespecting Padme’s authority as a person, and openly undermining her authority in front of others. She repeatedly tells him to stop making advances and he refuses to accept these requests. Even Anakin outright telling Padme he doesn’t like what she does, or stands for, and that a dictatorship is the correct way to run a galaxy.

But on Geonosis this all changes, Padme professes her love for Anakin, which is pretty much out of nowhere (other than George’s fetish leather scene in front the fire), and they marry in secret soon afterwards. Huh. WTF?!

Yet all of the above is portrayed as some sort of this is all a part of a “will-they-won’t-they” fall in love scenario, but in reality it comes across as toxic and controlling. The toxic and controlling aspects would have been better served on screen demonstrating Palpatine and Anakin’s relationship, and Palpatine’s growing influence and control over Anakin - not in Anakin and Padme’s poorly written and unbelievable “love story”.

I do agree with this mainly, there is some more to to the relationship but yes it poorly written and does appear toxic and controlling. George admits in general “I’m not a good writer”, “It’s very, very hard for me. I don’t feel I have a natural talent for it… When I sit down I bleed on the page, and it’s just awful" and it does appear the film would have benefited from additional writers who are more skilled and experienced at writing such relationships.
 

Stardust1138 said:

Keep in mind Padme also only knows the Tusken Raiders as “walk like men, but they’re vicious, mindless monsters” according to Cliegg Lars.

No, Padme also knows what Anakin has just told her, and Anakin is himself deeply upset, ashamed and angry in this conversation over his actions.

“I… I killed them. I killed them all. They’re dead… every single one of them. And not just the men. But the women… and the children, too. They’re like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals! I HATE THEM!”

Padme now also knows Anakin can quickly hate, and can turn to uncontrolled violence when doing so, even against unarmed women and children. This is also something she obviously encounters herself in the next film.

Padme is already aware of Anakin’s strange behavior around her, and to her. But still decides to pursue a relationship with him and then marry him (I do not agree with all these below, but it does highlight a number of instances of this strange behavior):

^ from “(Part 5 of 9) Star Wars Ep II: Attack of the Clones Review”: 9 minute video from RedLetterMedia (sexist Plinkett character)

“Is Anakin’s Relationship Abusive? | Star Wars”: 16 minute video from Cuenin’s Cove (based on content from AOTC, ROTS & TCW)

According to the above video, referencing the National Domestic Violence Hotline spectrum: yes, the relationship is abusive.

StarkillerAG said:

I guess the line about anger does have some value, but I still think it’s weird that Padme is so understanding after Anakin just went on a borderline psychopathic rant about slaughtering an entire village. It feels really out-of-character, especially given how shocked Padme is that Anakin did the exact same thing to the Jedi temple in ROTS.

Yes, this does seem poor writing for the character, which is unfortunate given the strong start and writing she had in TPM (when compared to AOTC and then ROTS). I am surprised that as George has a history of making changes to his films, that he did not make tweaks to improve the writing and the story in the Prequels too. A subtle line of dialogue or dubbing change, or inserting a deleted or alternative scene, like the Fan Editors of Star Wars films often do.

CarboniteSolo said:

I would love to see Endor, or places we haven’t ever seen in live action like Dantooine, Ord Mantell, Sullust, etc.

I agree, it would be very pleasing and interesting to finally see these planets in live action. Alderaan too before the Death Star got to it. Even Hoth or Crait again.

These links are all very welcome and it is so very pleasing to see so much older material and knowledge on the Original Trilogy. I will bookmark this for future reading. Thank you!
 

This is not my blog, but I have found it very interesting, fun, and with some rare images from their collection:

Star Wars 77-80 Collectors Blog - http://starwars77-80.blogspot.com
 

It also has Star Wars sections for Marvel, Kenner and Topps. Books, Videos and Magazines too.

Servii said:

Thank you for making this thread. All the fan misconceptions about the OUT have been a source of frustration for many of us here. It’s good to have those misconceptions be cleared up in a comprehensive way.

A hundred times this, and my thank you too. This resource will be a great help when in discussions with the fans who do not want the original versions to be released.

I hope very much there is another season of Visions. Along with The Mandalorian it is my favourite Star Wars content since the Original films, with something for everyone to enjoy and experience, and not be beholden to canon or the past.

There were two episodes that I did not fully get into or enjoy, but there were aspects of them that were enjoyable and I could see why others liked them very much.

With so many new stories to be told, in the differing animated styles, and going on the positive response to the nine episodes surely it makes sense to do more?

Stardust1138 said:

These stories have always been for kids but their beliefs they have continues to baffle me. They don’t understand context but only understand Star Wars on a very superficial level. There’s dark aspects to George’s stories but they’re told in a way that is more often than not light and hopeful. They however don’t shy away from addressing darker and more mature issues where needed. Disney Star Wars and a lot of storytellers have forgotten this. You don’t need your characters to be perfect to teach kids. It’s okay for them to know you’ll fail sometimes.

I would say Rogue One is an exception to this, maybe Solo too in the characterisation of Han.

Anthology films were a good way of doing something a little different from the main films, and also stepping away from George and previous ideals and factors. It unfortunate we do not see more of them. Or more anthology series like Visions.

Other than the shorter IMAX version of AOTC I did not know there were changes for the Prequel Trilogy. Thank you for the list D-O

Edit: the blu-ray changes listed are now the default Prequel versions? (on sale in stores, and the version shown on Disney+)

Servii said:

Realistically, Kenobi could be set exclusively on Tatooine, and I’d have no issues if that was what they did. The problem is that they chose to set so much of Mando and BoBF on Tatooine, also. That was the mistake. People are getting Tatooine fatigue now, right when we’re getting a show where it actually makes sense to have Tatooine.

Tatooine fatigue? People who do not like sand are dangerous, or should be ignored! 😉

It would be a welcome move to see more Star Wars releases in new locations or other lesser-seen locations, but for this it is understandable.

I am hoping the series will not be too “light” or “uplifting” as described below.

‘Obi-Wan Kenobi’ Was Overhauled for Being Too Dark; Ewan McGregor Says Character Is ‘Broken Man’ -
https://www.indiewire.com/2022/03/obi-wan-kenobi-scripts-too-dark-1234707478/

We will have to wait to the see the series itself, but I think I would have preferred a darker story for this show, in contrast to other recent Star Wars shows, given the context and situation of Obi-Wan, and the weight of responsibility and burden upon him.

I hope journalists will ask Kathleen Kennedy or other people high up in Lucasfilm or at Disney if they will release the original versions. The 1997 versions on 4K, blu ray, or Disney+ as well.

It is baffling why more journalists, do not ask such questions, as it is part of their job to do so.
Or that fans do not also ask people in power at Lucasfilm or Disney at Celebration 2022, if there is an opportunity to do so?

fmalover said:

Honestly I don’t feel the least bit hyped about this show. Just plain indifferent.

I feel the same. I was looking forward to the show, but the more I think about it the more I believe this will be an attempt to re-write history at the expense of the Original Trilogy again, like the Prequel films and other shows set in the PT times have.

The teaser trailer did nothing much for me. I hope the show does well because Ewan McGregor deserves better than what he had to work with in the Prequels, and did a good job in portraying Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Perhaps the full trailer will be better.