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#1240997
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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation (V3 Now Available.)
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Hi, I’m in the process of compiling a v3 of the purist edition, which fixes another error I found and adds in some more shots in HD by compositing the SD changes over the DVD footage. This is now at a level of polish where I will be comfortable recommending it alongside the original version of my edit. Here are some sample frames: https://imgur.com/a/ALontqP

For this release of this project I have compiled four foreign dubs (Italian, French, Russian and German) and a host of subtitles from two different European dvd releases.
I still need the Spanish dub (which should be on the english region 2 dvd). If you have this dub, I would love to get a copy. Most of the subtitles are upscaled vobsubs and so they don’t have a great font. If anyone has proofread soft subs (srt/ass) of the director’s cut in their language, I would love a copy as well. I also welcome subtitles in any other language than what I have currently. I know there was a region 4 dvd, which should have different subs, and I also wonder if there was ever a release for Asian regions. Currently only some of the English subs are HD (I also made HD subs for the forced alien sub tracks, but they are in all caps on the DVD and I haven’t changed that yet as I might make errors with regards to how words are capitalized in those languages.) Here is what I have now:

English (HD)
Subtitles for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing (SDH) (English) (HD)
SDH (Alternate) (English)
German [ger]
Spanish [spa]
French [fre]
Hebrew [heb]
Croatian [hrv]
Italian [ita]
Portuguese [por]
Slovenian [slv]
Commentary in English, German, Spanish, French, Italian
Text commentary by Michael Okuda [eng] (English) (HD)
Text commentary by Michael Okuda in German, Spanish, French, Italian
Alien Forced Subtitles [ger] (German) (HD)
Alien Forced Subtitles [fre] (French) (HD)
Alien Forced Subtitles [ita] (Italian) (HD)
Arabic [ara]
Bulgarian [bul]
Czech [cze]
Danish [dan]
Icelandic [ice]
Hungarian [hun]
Dutch [dut]
Norwegian [nor] (Norwegian Bokmål)
Polish [pol]
Romanian [rom]
Finnish [fin]
Swedish [swe]
Turkish [tur]

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#1238227
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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation (V3 Now Available.)
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Thanks to Runner76 for finding a pretty large error in the purist edition (I had never actually proofed through all of it). I have made a v2 that fixes this error in addition to making more of the footage HD by compositing DVD footage over the HDTV footage. Anyone who has ever Pm’ed me on OT.com should have updated links in their inbox. If there are still errors, let me know.

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#1237904
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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation (V3 Now Available.)
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Runner76 said:
I now watched the Purist cut and love it. But i found a scene where the Audio (Both 5.1 and 2.0 ) are async for one scene.
When Kirk is beamed to the Space Station from wich he is transported via shuttle to the Enterprise in spacedock, just after Kirk left the Transporter beam and askes Scotty why the transporters of the ship arent working, it starts to async.

Oh my god, that’s a huge error. I never actually proofed the purist ed, as I assumed the only areas I had to look at were the changes. Congrats on being the first person to watch it and report back I guess. I’ll have an updated version up soon.

Runner76 said:
Another problem i had, were the chapters. On my PC they are shown in my player and correctly Named.
However on my real BD Player i cant skip chapters at all !?

That’s probably just the BD player not recognizing a newer MKV function. You could try updating the player’s firmware or remuxing the file in an old version of MKVToolNix. Not much I can do.

heathen3017 said:
OK…question…if it has the added shots that he described, why is the time exactly the same? (I know that one of them is a replacement as opposed to an addition) Just curious.

Both versions are in sync with the DC dvd (the editing is matched frame-by-frame). The added effects shots are in both versions. Replacement effects shots are sometimes only in the purist edition and the other version uses the HD theatrical version of the shot.

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#1237811
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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation (V3 Now Available.)
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The audio would be great in the original dolby digital format. I would use MakeMKV to rip the dvd to a mkv (be sure to select all the audio tracks). You can then use MKVToolNix to deselect the video track in that MKV file and make a new .mka file with just the audio tracks. If it’s too much a pain to do don’t worry about it.

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#1237716
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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation (V3 Now Available.)
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Yeah, I made a ‘purist’ version which has all the shots you want. It’s among the links I sent you.

Runner76 said:

EDIT: Thanks a lot. Is there a plan for adding other Language´s (German in my case)

It’s synced with the DC, so any subtitles should sync after a 25fps to 23.98fps conversion. Audio should sync similarly. If you could pm me copies of the German language content I could add it to later versions.

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#1233262
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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation (V3 Now Available.)
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Yeah, that’s intentional, (and why I call this a fanedit in the readme). I was more interested in the editing in the DC than the new effects, particularly when there were shots that already looked good in the theatrical version.

That being said, I just rendered out a “Purist Edition” that has most all of the changes (though they are limited to SD). People can PM me for a link if they are interested.

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#1231810
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The Phantom of the Opera - 1925 Version Reconstruction
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Here’s a look at some of what I did for this version of Phantom:
Work done on 1929 footage:

  • The bulk of the film is taken from the Kino Bluray (24fps version). I desaturated the footage to black and white, as I was not satisfied with the tinting in any version.
  • The opening of the film through Carlotta speaking to the owners is taken from the BFI bluray, as it digitally removes the troublesome hair that wiggles all around the gate. Because the BFI bluray runs at 24fps and uses frame duplication to sync to it’s soundtrack, I had to use a decimate filter and then carefully match the footage frame by frame to the kino source to ensure there were no frames missing.
  • Some scenes were taken from the older Image bluray (using the same underlying master as Kino), because the Kino master inadvertently crushed the black levels of some scenes while trying improve the look of the tinting.
  • Some shots in the cellars were taken from the newly discovered sound reel of Phantom on the BFI disc. It lacked the damage in the other 35mm copy.

Opening Titles: While the complete original titles are lost (the 16mm print splices in a copy of the 1929 titles), sections survive in the trailers, and I used these snippets to reconstruct a section of the titles. The director’s credit comes from the 1929 version.

Bal masque sequence: The BFI bluray uses a copy taken from the earlier Channel 4 restoration, with poor detail and colors. The Kino Bluray and 24fps Image bluray has frame blending from an incorrect frame rate conversion. I took the interlaced 20fps Image bluray and deinterlaced it, eliminating as many blended field frames as possible. The missing title card was taken from the BFI disk (which recreates it), and color corrected.

Rooftop scene: This is the only scene which I kept tinted to preserve the two tone Handschiegl technique on the Phantom’s cape. The shots of Christine and Raoul come from the BFI bluray (better detail), with color correction to fix the rather poor tinting. The shots of the Phantom come from the Kino disc (better detail than the BFI, which again uses footage from the earlier restoration).

Finale: The Kino Bluray and 24fps Image bluray again have frame blending from an incorrect frame rate conversion. The BFI bluray is tinted so strongly here as to be indiscernible. Even color correction shows that there is no detail to regain. I took the interlaced 20fps Image bluray and deinterlaced it, eliminating as many blended field frames as possible. This results in a rather soft look with lots of dirt (the interlaced mater had no computer restoration done on it), but it’s the best the sequence has ever looked on home media.

General edit: It’s a fairly faithful reconstruction of the original continuity, just running at a varied framerate to accommodate the different lengths of shots in the 1929 version. There are some shots in the 16mm that I’ve rearranged for continuity reasons (they clearly were spliced in incorrectly in the 16mm dupe). There are some quick shots cut out for similar reasons. The 1929 footage is obviously different takes and angles from the 1925 footage, but for the most part you can match it up quite well. I kept one new title card from the 1929 version, as taking it out would have otherwise introduced a big jumpcut. Similarly, I made one new title card for the same reason in the first Carlotta scene.

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#1231809
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The Phantom of the Opera - 1925 Version Reconstruction
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Phantom

The original 1925 version of the Phantom of the Opera only survives as a spliced together dupe of 16mm prints in fairly low quality. The higher quality surviving 35mm print is of a version prepared alongside the sound re-release of Phantom. It is edited with different continuity than the 1925 version, cutting and rearranging scenes, as well as replacing footage with shots from the sound version. In addition, the 35mm material comes from the b-negative camera, using different angles and takes from the primary camera. Because of its higher quality, it has been the preferred version for restorations, even though it is much shorter than the 1925 version. An in depth exploration of the various versions exists here: http://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.com/2013/12/versions-and-sources-of-phantom-of-opera.html

This is an attempt to reconstruct the 1925 edit of the film using the higher quality 35mm material. The scenes present in the 1929 version use 35mm footage, while all the material exclusive to the 1925 version comes from the 16mm print.

Sound:
I have used Ben Model’s excellent organ score for the 1925 version. (As heard on reelclassicdvd’s DVD). To sync this edit to a preexisting score, I adjusted the speed of the footage throughout the film, generally keeping it within 16-24 frames a second, with the majority of the footage presented at around 20fps. The final file is a 60fps 1080p MKV (not blu ray compatible) with the real framerate being variable. When further edits were required to keep the sound and picture in sync, I made (hopefully unobtrusive) edits to the soundtrack.

The Technicolor sequence in the middle of the film uses Gaylord Carter’s organ score. Reelclassicdvd’s DVD used the BFI/Channel 4 version of the Technicolor bal masque sequence, which runs at a very slow speed (around 13 fps). This is a more natural level of motion, as the Technicolor camera had to be cranked very slow to get enough light, but it is not very period-accurate, looks bad and slows the pace of the scene. I have this sequence running at around 20fps, using a slowed down version of Gaylord Carter’s organ score taken from the Kino/Image bluray.

Picture:
As the various home media releases of Phantom have differing levels of quality, this edit uses the Kino, Image, and BFI blu-rays for the 1929 footage, with the 16mm footage coming from the HD transfer on the BFI bluray (including the title cards).

Video: 1080p 60fps 21gb MKV - Black and White with technicolor sequence and tinted sequence – 01:45:44
Aspect ratio: Around 1.33:1 for the 16mm material and cropped 1.2:1 for the 35mm
Audio: PCM stereo - Ben Model and Gaylord Carter score

Screencaps: https://imgur.com/a/GUqUcey

Pm me for a copy. Also on Myspleen.

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#1229229
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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation (V3 Now Available.)
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Okay, I rendered out a purist version that includes most all of the DC changes. I have included most all of the shots altered for the director’s cut DVD, from major shots like the V’ger sequence all the way down to re-colored viewing screens. It’s easier to list the shots that weren’t included here (these are more minor omissions than it might look like at first glance).

PM me if you want a copy.

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#1224946
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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation (V3 Now Available.)
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Right now the project files are on a different computer while I’m away at school, but when I get the chance I can probably render something.
Some people have already requested one, but I forgot to do anything about it. There are actually a lot more shots that have been modified then people realize, so it still would involve a degree of picking and choosing. Most people are interested in the finale shots of V’ger making the bridge. The biggest issue is that a couple of the shots run at 30 fps interlaced, so I’d have to find a way to interpolate the framerate satisfactorily.

In short, I can totally do it, it just might not be for a while.

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#1224888
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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation (V3 Now Available.)
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I have a very small update to this that I’m putting out. I rendered V3 out awhile back to correct some small errors, particularly a jump cut that I accidentally introduced. I was waiting and see if there were any bigger changes I wanted to make to justify a new release, but since there aren’t, I might as well release this now.

V3 changes:

  • added Grace Lee Whitney (as Janice Rand) to the list of co-stars in the opening credits. She was treated terribly during her time on the show, and I think her name deserves to be next to the rest of the original cast (some promotional materials featured her similarly).
  • fixed issue with the BD footage, where aggressive DNR caused the bottom left part of the frame to smear and warp. 12:12
  • fixed issue in the original DC effects where the shuttle disappeared for a frame. 13:00
  • fixed one frame editing error I introduced 15:21
  • The original effects have an issue where the shuttle moves, but the background is frozen. They trimmed the beginning in the DC, but when matching the edit, I trimmed the end of the shot rather then the beginning, as I didn’t know why it was shorter. Now matches the DC. 20:38
  • fixed two frames of encoding garbage from the HDTV 26:37
  • The audio is now the untouched dolby digital track from the DVD (not rencoded) until the end credits, when it seamlessly cuts to the new end credits music. This saves some space and preserves Blu-ray compatibility if you want to remux.

Anyone who PM’d me previously should have the updated version in their inbox, as I have updated the links.

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#1211896
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4k77 released
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The new 70mm track is by Hairy_Hen. You can see what’s new here: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-1977-70mm-sound-mix-recreation-stereo-and-51-versions-now-available/id/11348/page/27#1207818

The new 35mm stereo track is by schorman13. The one on the latest version of DE (2.5) was done by Hairy_Hen, which fixed a number of audio drop outs and issues from the laserdisc. They are both primarily sourced from the Japanese digital laserdisc, but the one done by schorman13 uses the newly available optical audio to determine which dropouts and crackling were present in the original theatrical version, and which ones were not for maximum accuracy.
It should sound very similar to all the previous versions of the 1977 35mm stereo track that have been released, but it’s the most accurate to what was heard in theaters.