Editroid

NeverarGreat said:

After more than a decade, who’s seeing these films again except for children who’ve watched Clone Wars and Rebels? Again, they have the lightsabers and special effects, and when watching them in numerical order the Prequels ruin the originals to such a degree, and the ‘originals’ are available in such poor quality, that the quality difference between the two trilogies isn’t that great.

So in summary, you have the initial inflated reviews from people who saw them before the effects became dated and before the story was revealed for the empty exercise it was. Then the bulk of the reviews are from people who are actually nostalgic for the prequels since they saw them as children in conjunction with a cartoon that apparently did the main character justice.

Or maybe the ratings are that way simply because there are plenty of people out there who actually LIKE the Prequels.

NeverarGreat said:

Editroid said:

What’s weird is that despite all of the constant bashing of the PT I always see on sites like this, the critical ratings towards them have actually been mostly mixed to positive. If they really were that bad, then they wouldn’t have a 6.5, 6.6 and 7.6 rating on IMDb.

I expect that most people think that Star Wars is lightsabers and special effects, which the Prequels did have. Also, most people tended to view the prequels more favorably in the theater on first viewing (when the effects were better integrated on actual film), and that’s probably where the bulk of the good ratings originate.

But how could they have stayed in that range after a whole 12 to 18 years?

What’s weird is that despite all of the constant bashing of the PT I always see on sites like this, the critical ratings towards them have actually been mostly mixed to positive. If they really were that bad, then they wouldn’t have a 6.5, 6.6 and 7.6 rating on IMDb.

In my opinion, it was only Adywan who could turn the prequels into proper Star Wars movies and no one else. With Adywan out of the picture, prequels are lost forever, as they will never be watchable no matter how much you cut them. (Mostly because it needs a special touch only Adywan level editing could provide.) But no one could blame him as it is a massive undertaking and OT took so much of his time as it is.

Come on. I’m sure there are SOME people who love them.

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SilverWook said:

Editdroid, you will cease harassing Adywan immediately. Any further complaints and you WILL BE BANNED. Duration of ban at moderator’s discretion.
The same applies to anyone else who acts like a creepy stalker.

I’m shutting up.

“There will be a lot more editorial changes with this one than the other two.”

Ho, boy.

But you did say that you know what you can and can’t do now, so this will hopefully not take at least another decade to make. But I’ll be patient.

NeverarGreat said:

Editroid said:

Anakin was Obi-Wan’s padawan. It’s natural that he would be younger than him, and not necessarily his “contemporary.”

It always struck me more as a brotherhood rather than a father/son relationship, so the 16 year age difference in the prequels always strained credulity for me. But having an 82 year-old play someone who is supposed to be 45 is really stretching it, even granted the terrible deformities and rough life.

What would make the prequels and the OT play nice is if there was a 24 year gap between the PT and OT.
Alec Guinness was 62 in ANH. With a canonical age of 38 in ROTS, this makes him perfectly cast in terms of age, and is more in keeping with the ‘old fossil’ talk in the movie.
Mark Hamill was 25 in ANH. This de-ages him by only one year.
Carrie Fisher was 20 in ANH. This ages her by 4 years, but since she acts older than her age anyway, it’s quite believable.
Phil Brown (Owen) was 60 in ANH. With Joel Edgerton in ROTS being 30, he would be de-aged by 6 years. The years have not been kind for him.
Shelagh Fraser (Beru) was 56 in ANH. With Bonnie Piesse being 22 in ROTS, she would be de-aged by 10 years. The years really haven’t been kind.
Sebastian Shaw was 82 in ROTJ. Hayden Christensen was 25 in ROTS (canonically 23), this would make him 51-53 in ROTJ, a de-aging of about 30 years. It’s an extreme aging, but at least he’s beyond middle age at this point.

It’s actually a 19 year gap between Episodes III and IV. Close enough. One logical explanation for the fast aging of Owen, Beru and Obi-Wan during that time is simply the fact that they have been living on a harsh desert planet with two suns. There’s also the matter of stress, with the thought of the Empire knocking on your door at any time.

Octorox said:

Editroid said:

NeverarGreat said:

doubleofive said:

Why do we keep talking about the Prowse documentary being a possibility? David Prowse is 82 years old. How would that be better then Shaw in any way?

Because we’re not using the prequel timeline?

The Prequel Trilogy is here to stay as a permanent part of the Star Wars canon whether you like them or not.

True, but Ady also doesn’t have to consider them canon, since these are his personal edits. Personally, I’d prefer he not add elements that blatantly contradict the other films though (moreso than already exist).

If he’s not going to do Revisited versions of the PT, then what’s the point of adding things in the OT that contradict them, especially if, hypothetically, one would want to do a marathon of each movie?

NeverarGreat said:

doubleofive said:

Why do we keep talking about the Prowse documentary being a possibility? David Prowse is 82 years old. How would that be better then Shaw in any way?

Because we’re not using the prequel timeline?

The Prequel Trilogy is here to stay as a permanent part of the Star Wars canon whether you like them or not.

Anakin was Obi-Wan’s padawan. It’s natural that he would be younger than him, and not necessarily his “contemporary.”

sansuni said:
By the way, Luke’s deleted lightsaber construction scene was awesome. I would love it if it was restored somehow.

He said he won’t restore that scene.

sansuni said:
Lastly, I completely agree with everyone who stated Ewoks should be reduced/gotten rid off. They are absolutely ridiculous and only exist to appeal kids and to sell toys.

Well, duh. It’s a franchise where its biggest fans are children.

Is the fact that there is an X-Men villain named Sebastian Shaw a complete coincidence?

ray_afraid said:

^ Yes. And the Shaw ghost doesn’t look older than Obi-Wan’s at all.

Despite Sebastian Shaw actually being nine years older than Alec Guinness in real life.

I wonder when Adywan will look at all of these suggestions and tell us what he thinks?

Why was Clive Revill’s name in the credits, when he wasn’t even in this version?

I find it awesome that Adywan is actually going to film new scenes for Endor at the very same location they were filmed 35 years ago.

Jani-wan said:

Editroid said:

I do not trust Disney anymore. First they made a terribly bad, than a mediocre movie, so they are 0 for 2 right now. Im afraid a cool Disney Star Wars movie is unrealistic expectation at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

And I think that this is exactly the kind of childish behaviour, that is completely useless and desruptive in every forum.

Okay, I’m sorry. Really, I am.

Why is it that every Star Wars movie that doesn’t come from the OT isn’t immune to obnoxious and hyperbolic fanboy hatred? That makes it five out of eight movies that get this kind of attention.

I do not trust Disney anymore. First they made a terribly bad, than a mediocre movie, so they are 0 for 2 right now. Im afraid a cool Disney Star Wars movie is unrealistic expectation at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

What about changing back the Falcon turret’s targeting displays?

Correct me if this has already been talked about, but since the release of Rogue One, is Adywan going to change what the Death Star plans originally looked like, even if they are inaccurate, with the dish in the center?

NeverarGreat said:

He’s in the background of the ‘Transports in the Hoth hangar’ matte replacement.

Is he that tiny astromech in the distance that was welding those crates?

I kind of learned to appreciate the Prequel Trilogy for what it is.