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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread

tobiwan1984 said:

EddieDean said:

tobiwan1984 said:

StarkillerAG said:

DominicCobb said:

StarkillerAG said:

DominicCobb said:

Get over it.

We’re in a fan edit thread. Not getting over things is the only way we can fix them. I think he should be allowed to criticize. Whether his criticisms are valid is another question, but you shouldn’t just try to shut him up like this.

In fairness, it’s not just that his criticisms are bad, but there’s no way to accomplish what he wants. In which case my suggestion is legitimately the best thing he can do.

You’re probably right. His criticisms do belong more in the rewrite thread.

Honestly, I think I can say whatever I want to say as long as I don’t offend anyone…

You’re welcome to think and say whatever you want, even if it does offend people, so long as it doesn’t break the rules. So by all means, you do you. However, since you mention offence-

I’m offended. You use the phrase ‘identity politics’ twice.

Identity politics is a political approach based on people prioritizing the concerns most relevant to their particular racial, religious, ethnic, sexual, social, cultural or other identity. It typically aims to reclaim greater self-determination and political freedom for marginalized groups through understanding each interest group’s distinctive nature and experiences of injustice.

Not one iota of that happens in Disney Star Wars, so I have to read from this that by ‘identity politics’ you mean you object to the prevalence and/or roles of women in these films.

I’ll say it again: Representation is not politics. Representation is not an agenda.

There are plenty of problems to have with these films. There are plenty of problems to have with the power Rey has without training. None of those problems come from the identities - gender or otherwise - of the characters. None of those problems come from the identities of the members of the production teams.

I’m making an assumption there so forgive me if I’ve interpreted your choice of words unfairly. But if not-

Strong women exist. Female characters who serve something other than male characters’ romantic subplot exist. They’re not a threat to you. Get over it.

See I didn’t do that not did anyone back in the old days write Leia running around calling males names.