Hi, I saw this thread a while and I was pretty interested to see all of these shorts in a semi-chronological way
Could send you send me a link, please?
If you manage to do a trilogy with this, season 2 and Rogue One; that will definitely become the Star Wars prequel trilogy for me.
Years ago on this thread, members discussed different ways to incorporate Coruscant into the OT. A user posted an edited frame of Coruscant from ROTS with an ROTJ starfield as the night sky and I thought it was just beautiful and somewhat convincingly 1980’s. I can’t help but wonder, have other people taken these ideas further than just images? I would love some concepts, edits or anything with more Coruscant-in-the-OT ideas. Any direction, links or references would be appreciated.
I think that you would be interested on Snooker’s mock-ups that featured Coruscant on ROTJ (Changing the background of scenes like Vader talking with Luke on the bridge or Palpatine’s throne room)
Sadly, most of the gifs that showcased them in motion are down
Still, you can see some of those mock-ups (Though only as pictures) on this thread: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Snookers-Assorted-Star-Wars-edit-ideas/id/73571/page/1
Could any Peter Cushing footage in another movie suffice to add Tarkin to the Prequels even for a cameo as an Admiral, perhaps on Anakin’s battalion? Could one incorporate an idea of him being the one to design Vader’s suit?
I could survey his Frankenstein movies but I’m not really sure if one could use material from it considering he spends the entire time in Victorian era fashion.
I had been trying to add Tarkin to the prequels but I couldn’t find the right place (The best I could find was during the scene in Episode II were Anakin transmits Obi-Wan’s message back to Coruscant, with a younger Tarkin appearing next to Bail Organa and Yoda).
I’d have to dig out all my detailed notes and outlines ( if i even still have them) but here is the gist of what i was planning (although this is all from memory and it was long time ago, so will be pretty rough):
TPM: There was going to be no “trade blockade” or “negotiations” but it would start with the invasion of Naboo. The Gungans would be clone batches and the trade federation (as they are in the original but may have been named differently, i can’t remember) were after cloning tech as this is something the galaxy has not been able to master. Their claim was that they had negotiated a deal for the tech but that the Gungans has reneged on the deal. We find out that it was Jar Jar that made the deal without authorisation and this was why he was ostracised from the city. Many of the Naboo council consider the Gungans to be a lower life form and demand that Amidala just hand them over to the federation, but she refuses. This angers the federation and they head to invade the city. Amidala send a distress signal to senator palpatine and the Jedi are sent to Naboo. On the federation ship we see the nemoidians receive a holo message from a hooded figure. It looks like the emperor we all know, so its not obvious from the start that its actually palpatine ( god i hated how dumb that bit was). This is palpatines true form but we don’t know that until the 3rd film. He informs them that the Jedi are on their was and to make sure they never reach the planet. As the Jedi ship approaches, the federation opens fire and the Jedi cruiser takes heavy damage. Escape pods are deployed and most are destroyed before they can reach safety, apart from 2 that reach the planet - Qui-Gon & Obi-Wan. They meet up with Jar Jar who is less irritating in this version and doesn’t speak like an idiot with all the “exsqueeze me” type crap. Things pretty much go as original from here for a while, but with alterations. Getting to tatooine, anakin does NOT create 3P0. 3P0 is Amidalas personal droid throughout, fully golden from the start. The pod race would be shorter, intercut with the invasion and other things plus more of Maul searching for the group. Obi-Wan wouldn’t be an asshole who looks down on others as he does in the original. And Midichlorians wouldn’t exist. The end battle would have had Anakin deliberately disobey Qui-Gon and join the space battle and not some stupid accident. he would get an idea on how to destroy the ship by flying into one of its hangar bays as this was less protected or something like that and flys inside taking shots as he goes. Obi_wan doesn’t fall down the shaft and make that ridiculous jump and flip over Maul. At the end Boss Nass agrees that their cloning tech should not be kept on Naboo and would be better in the hands of the republic. Oh, and no space jesus in this one. Shmii is just silent about the father
AOTC: Can’t remember a lot about this one but Anakin is less of a whiney and creepy little bitch in this version. With the ongoing threat from the federation, a clone army has been ordered by the Republic using the Gungan tech, but Padme, now a senator, along with others in the senate disagree with it as they had agreed that they were only going to be the guardians of this tech. So there is no more stupid plot of the Jedi suddenly being ok with this secret clone army yet they have no idea who created it and what for. The assassination attempts on padme still happen and anakin is instructed to take her to somewhere out the way but she demands that she return to Naboo. Anakin still had the force dream about his mother being in pain, but his understanding is that the jedi freed her from slavery. His discovery that they hadn’t and that they had lied to him begins his turn to the dark side and distrust of the Jedi. He also would not inform Padme of his slaughter of the Tuskens. So she doesn’t know that he’s a psycho nutcase, yet still want to be with him, which diminishes her character. There would be no Boba Fett as a kid in this. Obi_wan would be sent to check on the progress of the clone army. They wouldn’t all be clones of Jango, but of a handful of Mandalorian warriors, who remain on Kamino to train the clones. Geonosis would be the discovery that the federation were amassing a droid army to attack the republic. Yoda wouldn’t use a lightsabre in the duel against Dooku.
ROTS: Same opening as original. Obi_wan and the Jedi council have begun the be suspicious of Anakin after hearing of things he had done during the clone wars. They know all about him an Padme but are saying nothing, but are keeping a close eye on him. This film would now be set a decade after AOTC. Anakin would NOT be named as Darth Vader. Grevious would sound nothing like Dracula with a bad cough in this either. There would also be no “dreams” of Padme dying. palpatine is sowing the seeds of doubt in Anakin about the Jedi as in the original. Obi_wan finds grevious and confronts him where he discovers that Palpatine is the Sith Lord and contacts the council. Mace goes to confront Palpatine to discover if Grevious was telling the truth or misleading Obi-Wan. After he leaves Anakin finds out what he is doing and goes after him as his mistrust with the Jedi has deepened. Mace alone confronts Palpatine in his office, who was viewing tech graphics of an armoured suit (Vader’s), where he reveals his true form to Windu and battle commences. Anakin arrives just as Mace defeats Palpatine and stands above him as he lays on the ground. Palpatine now is fully in his true form and claims that Windu had disfigured him. Mace’s willingness to kill Palpatine instead of putting him on trial is what finally turns Anakin against the Jedi and, as Mace raises his saber to slay Palpatine, Anakin lashes out with the force as pushes him far out the window. No force lighting and melting Palpatine. Palpatine talks about how the jedi want to take over the republic and they have been deliberately allowing the war to continue, but that Anakin could end the war if he was willing to go against the Jedi. He tells him he has learned the location of the leaders of the federation/ separatists and that he needs to do what must be done; assassinate them all, to bring an end to the war. That how the jedi wiped out all of the Sith because they didn’t believe that only the Jedi should be allowed toi master the force. Anakin head to Mustafar. When Obi-Wan returns to Coruscant he learns of the death of Mace. Yoda has received a holo message from palpatine informing them what anakin had done and that he had learned that anakin was a sith apprentice who knew who the sith lord was and he had killed Mace when he tried to arrest him, but doesn’t know where he had gone Yoda shows Obi-Wan altered footage of the moment Anakin kills mace. They must stop anakin but Obi-Wan struggles to believe it. He reaches out to padme who he knows anakin would have told her where he was going. Continue like the original with obi-wan hiding in the ship and when he confronts Anakin. Cut back to Palpatine in his office and one of his aides informs him that Anakin is in danger, but he shrugs it off saying something like " I have forseen skywalkers demise. It is of no concern. Soon i shall have a new apprentice. One far more powerful than young Skywalker could have ever been. Prepare my shuttle. We shall go to Mustafar to discover Skywalkers fate."
Kenobi leaves Anakin as he burns of the lava shore as Palpatines shuttle arrives. We don’t see him claw his way up, but instead believe him to be dead. He meets up with Yoda on the medical asteroid. he informs him that Anakin is dead. Yoda explains that he senses the dark side descending across the galaxy and that something terrible is coming their way. Padme is injured but doesn’t die. Yoda realises that if the sith discover that the babies survived that they would hunt them down. Can’t remember what i had planned for in-between this bit and the next. Some time later Palpatine is in his office and an ominous voice can be heard off camera…“what is thy bidding, my master”. We see that large dark figure emerge. " Ah, my new apprentice…" This is Vader’s introduction. We don’t know this is Anakin (especially when there’d been so many other sith apprentices suddenly pop up from nowhere). Palpatine begins order 66. Palpatine then addresses the senate and informs them of the Jedi plot to overthrown the Republic, while it intercuts with scenes of the clones turning on the jedi then we see darth Vader emerging at the jedi temple, slaughtering jedi, but no younglings. Yoda and Obi-wan return to find the jedi temple ablaze and the jedi slaughtered. They see security footage of Vader killing the Jedi. Can’t remember how i ended everything or what happened after this. But Padme was alive and the twins were split up, but not named
it was going to take a lot of time and funds to achieve this. With the AI tech available today and it could more easily be pulled off. But , with the amount of time left needed to complete the OT Revisited saga, and i’m almost 60 now, i just don’t think my heart would have been in it, especially when i just can’t even bear to watch the prequels any more. I spent years planning all of this out. It would have kept the “Vader Father” reveal intact. And anyone saying that this would be a waste of time because “everyone knows who vader is” are completely discounting new generations that will discover these films and would probably watch then in episodic order. Even now there are those that don’t know that identity of Vader. My Grandson knew who vader was but had no idea he was Luke’s father until he watched Empire, so there is a good argument to keep that reveal intact.
There’s a lot to unpack here, but all I can say now is that you had a lot of interesting for those films (For instance, I would have never thought about making the Gungans to be the ones behind cloning technology).
Aside from a few bits here and there, it seems that most of these ideas could be implemented with some rotoscoping and voice overs.
I’m also on the side of the argument of preserving the plot twists of the OT to the newer generations, since I would like to show the saga to the youngest members of my family.
Maybe it’s weird to resurrect this old thread from years ago. But now that Adywan’s PT will never get made (which makes sense), I’d love to hear more about what he had planned.
Yeah, me too. After reading some snippets on WordPress, I guess that some of his plans may have changed over the years.
I’ll be honest, I still want to know the context behind that mockup that he made about Vader and the troopers marching towards the Jedi temple.
Wow, this looks like a game-changer for the world of fan edits. With a tool like this, it becomes easier to insert new dialogue and change the entire context of a scene.
Some of the goals that I had for my (hypothetical) sequel trilogy edits were to change Rey’s backstory and remove the Resistance entirely (Having instead a Republic vs First Order conflict).
Taking a break from the Death Star Duel, here’s a tangential idea for TROS in general, elaborating on my Throne of the Sith concept.
The issue with the original idea was that while it solved quite a few plot issues, there was no deeper connection tying this to Rey’s story. So how about this:
Rey’s parents were cultists living on Exegol. They pledged themselves to the Sith, and baptized their gifted daughter to the service of Palpatine. However, after their daughter learned more than she should have of the Sith’s secret power her parents escaped Exegol and fled across the galaxy to prevent her from being killed.
Rey’s parents were traveling to Tatooine to find Luke, for they only knew of his homeworld and wished to give their Force sensitive daughter to him for her protection. However, they were waylaid halfway to their destination on the desert world of Jakku and killed.
Palpatine wants the child killed because she may know the secret of the Sith’s power. All Rey knows about Exegol now is that she saw herself on the throne, which she interprets as her desire to rule as the lord of the Sith, something that Palpatine is quick to encourage, going so far as to imply that she is his granddaughter.
When Kylo confronts Rey in his quarters and in the hangar, he says that she may be a Palpatine. However, he isn’t sure that he believes it, since there is no evidence that her parents were strong in the Force. Nevertheless, he believes that she has the darkness of the Sith within her in some form, a darkness which draws her ever toward evil.
When Rey arrives on Exegol and confronts Palpatine, she is eventually defeated and must turn to the Jedi for help. They tell her that the ways of the Jedi are knowledge and defense, and she looks inward and considers why she has visions of the Sith throne. She realizes that it is literally the seat and source of their power, and this is the secret that her parents died for. She redirects Palpatine’s lightning and destroys it, and this brings down the entire edifice and destroys the Sith once and for all.
In the final scene, Rey arrives on the planet that her parents had sought all those years ago, and there she finally claims the Skywalker name.
Nev, your idea sounds so cool!!!
I had the idea a few years ago of revealing that Rey as a Padawan with amnesia; who misremembered her master as her mother
But this sounds so much better and it would make of lot of sense considering how Rey was presented in the previous films (And it’s definitely an improvement over what Episode IX originally presented)
This project has a lot of interesting concepts and ideas, does anyone know if this is still being worked on?
In Spanish:
“¿Embestiste a la velocidad de la luz?”
“¡No puedes embestir al Halcón a la velocidad de la luz!”
“Sus seguidores han estado ocultando algo durante años”.
“Una enorme reserva de Destructores Estelares del Antiguo Imperio”.
“Cada nave ha sido modificada con cañones láser de nivel dreadnaught”.
“El es muy peligroso.”
“Un Jedi necesita su arma”.
“Ellos pagaron por tu protección”.
“En más de una forma”.
“Qué trabajo tan tedioso”.
“Lo que realmente necesitamos es un mecánico, idealmente una unidad R2”.
“Iré con la Señorita Rey en una misión muy importante”.
I think that the closest thing to “the prequels revisited” would be Snooker’s edits, as those really feel more in line with the tone of the original trilogy (From what I can see)
Nonetheless, it seems that she has been quite busy; since her AOTC (That looks fantastic) has ben a WIP for a time
I would love an edit of the anime JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure where their musical references play during the Stand Stats and where every character speaks their native language (although not all the time, obviously, since it is very common for characters from different countries to interact with each other)
One idea I had was going all-out with changes in Episode I, which is a prequel 3-in-1. Then the Cassian Andor show is Episode II, followed by Rogue One as Episode III.
As I said on Discord, that wouldn’t really work as a trilogy. It’d just be a standalone film followed by an unrelated duology.
I agree with everything NotTheDr0ids said. To really work as a trilogy, it needs the same core cast and not too big time skips.
Maybe we could have an alternate prequel trilogy focused entirely on Cassian, Saw and the rebellion; while the prequels are edited as a single spin-off movie in the style of Rogue One and Solo. Andor’s trilogy could go like this:
*Episode I = Andor Season 1
*Episode II = Andor Season 2
*Episode III = Rogue One
So, I came across with this edit of Rex in Episode II and I thought it looked pretty nice (Even though I am not sure if he was meant to be there in canon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0BGszNIcpg
I completely love that mock-up, RL!!!
The premise of this thread sounds very interesting. Because of that, I wanted to brainstorm some ideas as well (though some were already suggested on other threads by other editors):
-Vader mentions Padme during his scene with Luke (through the line “Your mother once thought as you do”)
-When Vader lifts the Emperor, an slight “bone crack” sound effect can be heard (like in the novelization for ROTJ, where Vader breaks Palpatine’s back before throwing him)
-Add Palpatine’s spin scream from ROTS (or maybe his laugh) when his body explodes, in order to suggest that his essence left his body and went “somewhere else”
-Snoke’s voice lines from TFA teaser trailer could be added at the very end of the credits (similar to how Vader’s breathing was featured at the very end of the credits of TPM)
I wonder when adywan will be revealing the plan that he had outlined for PT:R?
Some of the things that I heard about were instead of C-3PO being built by Anakin, he was going to start as a protocol droid for the Queen, the duel between Obi-Wan and Anakin on Mustafar was going to take place in AOTC, and Obi-Wan was going to have two apprentices.
If I remember correctly, he also said some of the following things (if that can help you):
-Yoda would be a puppet
-All the Jedi would have blue lightsabers
-Windu fights Palpatine alone
-Darth Vader (with the armor) leads the army to the Jedi temple, not Anakin
-Padme survives Episodes III
Someone had recreated Sebastian Shaw from an image of Tobey Maguire. I decided to put together a gallery myself to possibly help jonh with a new Force ghost sequence.
Hmmmm, I think it could work (although he looks kind of odd in some of the pictures)
But we should only use pictures where Tobey’s hairstyle resembles the one that Sebastian had in ROTJ (and also where Tobey’s beard is pretty much non-existent), mostly because FaceApp tries to merge both hairstyles and you might end up with an “emo” Sebastian Shaw
Someone managed to recreate Sebastian Shaw’s appearance using Tobey Maguire as a template and faceapp noting that they have a similar hairstyle and head shape, maybe that would help for future attempts? https://m.imgur.com/t/faceapp/Xn1rp99
That was me, but aside of that picture, I didn’t do anything else
I can see some potential, though
Every time there’s an slightly romantic scene, “Freek’n You” by Jodeci plays in the background
I’m sure making Sifo-Dyas a Sith apprentice was one of George’s ideas at one point, but both the original EU and Clone Wars season 6 (which was technically released under Disney but written with George’s direct involvement) officially established him as a well-intentioned Jedi whose drastic actions were discovered and exploited by Sidious, who eventually ordered Dooku to have him killed.
Definitely an intriguing idea for a fanedit linking the trilogies, though.
Yeah, you’re completely right
I also think that it’s an interesting idea, nonetheless (One that could be implemented in one of those edits that mostly ignore the canon)
Sifo-Dyas was a secret Sith and Palpatine’s apprentice according to George. I’m very interested to see how he would’ve brought this idea to life in his Sequels to bring the story full circle further. I like the idea of him and Dooku being used as tools at the same time for the Grand Plan.
You know? This gave me the idea that maybe we could remove Sifo’s name in Episode II and change it to Snoke
This (along with making Sidious and Dooku’s final scene take place in Exegol, rather than Coruscant) would be a nice reference to the sequel trilogy
Though I don’t know if sentence-mixing the word “Snoke” would sound convincing enough
I’m still waiting for my pm
Dude, be patient, please
Also, what’s up with your name?
I know that some people removed the “Mustafar minute” from their edits and instead the film begins with Kylo’s ship jumping out of hyperspace.
So, I thought that maybe Mustafar could be re-inserted into the film, in a scene where Kylo rebuilds his mask inside of Vader’s castle
The scene would go like this:
-Establishing shot of Mustafar (ROS)
-Vader’s castle (Biomes)
-Kylo rebuilds his helmet (ROS)
What do you think?
I can always use Google Translate, but can anyone translate the following into French, Spanish, Portugues, Spanish, Italian, and/or Dutch?
“Who are you?”
“I am a highly trained Resistance spy.”
“Then why are you… What?”
Here’s in Spanish:
-“¿Quién eres?”
-“Soy un espía de la Resistencia altamente entrenado”
-“¿Entonces por qué… Qué?”
Since Matt is going to voice Anakin in Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga, I think the only thing we should worry is that he dubs most of his lines and doesn’t left us with only a handful of them (he also voices Anakin in Battlefront 2)