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Kelley Jones.

moviefreakedmind said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Alderaan said:

Lots of people say The Dark Knight is a great film, but I'm not keen on ever seeing it, considering those same people rave about one of the worst things I've ever seen on screen.

Oh, it's great alright -- greatly overrated, just like every one of Nolan's films. 

I really enjoy the film, although I'll be the first to admit that had it not been for Heath Ledger's performance it wouldn't have been too memorable

Well, I'll admit Ledger was good. Hell, he's really the only thing I liked about the movie. 

Koryo Songhay said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

grainger said:

I never read the story, but I hate that Boba Fett escaped the Sarlaac only to fall in again (due to bad Jawa driving, as I understand it!). I thought that was hilariously bad. Already in stitches, I practically hit the floor when I found out it happened to him again after that in a later story. I suppose this is combines the problems of fan service and multiple authors working on one universe - all the characters end up with ludicrous life stories.

Ah, yes ... this. This is what you get when you retroactively make a story from the Marvel comics canon even when it conflicts with the "official" history you've already been running with for the past couple decades. 

Crap like this is one of the reasons why the concept of an "official" canon for fictional universes has become anathema to me; the dignity of a universe gets sacrificed for the sake of making everything "real" and "true" and "relevant".

This is why I like how the Star Trek EU is handled more than the way the SW EU is handled. None of it is considered canon, so there's no inane effort put into making each and every story ever published in the past, present, and future part of the same continuity.

 Trek made an effort recently to make the old continuity fit better and the new movies don't contradict the comics. So, you are screwed.

So you're saying the people-that-be are going back to the Gold Key comics, the old '70s/'80s novels, the original Marvel comics, DC's TOS & TNG comics, the various comics produced by Marvel in the late '90s, so on and so forth, etc, etc, etc. and trying to weave the events of all of it into one cohesive continuity?

You'll forgive me if I remain skeptical. 

*sigh* I loathe the stupid "Trek vs. Wars" rivalry. The fantards who perpetuate it deserve a collective enema.

I wonder what it would have been like if Maul, instead of speaking per se, just laughed maniacally throughout the entire duel. Depending on how it was done, it could come off as incredibly sinister and unsettling.

Frink awoke from his nightmare

I'd say most of the good stuff about Qui-Gon comes from the EU, myself. I got the impression he was a good character from somewhere, and after watching TPM the last time, I realized it certainly wasn't from the movie itself.

Bumping 'cause I'm bored.

This was the very first comic book I ever bought and read:

I was only in kindergarten when I bought it, so I couldn't really read the words. I enjoyed it soley on a visual, visceral level.

I re-read the comic as part of the Knightfall trade paperback a number of years ago, and suffice it to say, it didn't look or read as good to my jaundiced adult eyes. Nevertheless, a fair amount of its imagery has imprinted itself on my mind, and it along with B:TAS helped define my image of the definitive Batman.

Not in Nolan's dull-as-dishwater films, at any rate.

Still, I can understand where she's coming from. Whenever writers/producers/etc. kill off a popular character when it isn't part of that character's natural progression, it feels like a low-blow move. If I were in her shoes, I'd probably feel betrayed myself and refuse to work or cooperate with them again. 

Alderaan said:

Lots of people say The Dark Knight is a great film, but I'm not keen on ever seeing it, considering those same people rave about one of the worst things I've ever seen on screen.

Oh, it's great alright -- greatly overrated, just like every one of Nolan's films. 

TFN is like Mos Eisley, only with the scum and villainy replaced with humourlessness and sycophancy.

It just goes to show you -- Qui-Gon is one of the most pointless, superfluous characters ever created for the Star Wars Universe.

Alderaan said:

The Dark Knight Rises is the only Nolan Batman film I've seen, and it was one of the worst films I've ever seen. Can't even begin to comprehend how someone would like that one.

Why would you choose to watch TDKR if you haven't seen the first two?

I haven't seen the movie myself (and likely won't -- Nolan's Batman is not my Batman), but as far as I know, it's the conclusion to a three-part storyline; you can't exactly go into it and get a complete, standalone story from it.  

I read somewhere that she was willing to come back and play Jadzia as a recurring character. It was the powers-that-be who chose to kill the character off. 

When Jadzia Dax got together with Worf on DS9, it was like seeing the prettiest, smartest girl I knew and liked in high school getting together with the crudest, stupidest jock I knew and despised in same said high school. 

MacArthur's Park is melting in

I can't really say why I like A New Beginning over the other entries. Storywise, it's pretty stupid.

I guess I just liked the psychological and whodunnit aspects of the story, even if neither were executed very well.

^That's not SE George you want -- that's Mirror Universe George.

I've never walked out on any film.

Of course, that's 'cause I've never walked in on any film, either.

grainger said:

I never read the story, but I hate that Boba Fett escaped the Sarlaac only to fall in again (due to bad Jawa driving, as I understand it!). I thought that was hilariously bad. Already in stitches, I practically hit the floor when I found out it happened to him again after that in a later story. I suppose this is combines the problems of fan service and multiple authors working on one universe - all the characters end up with ludicrous life stories.

Ah, yes ... this. This is what you get when you retroactively make a story from the Marvel comics canon even when it conflicts with the "official" history you've already been running with for the past couple decades. 

Crap like this is one of the reasons why the concept of an "official" canon for fictional universes has become anathema to me; the dignity of a universe gets sacrificed for the sake of making everything "real" and "true" and "relevant".

This is why I like how the Star Trek EU is handled more than the way the SW EU is handled. None of it is considered canon, so there's no inane effort put into making each and every story ever published in the past, present, and future part of the same continuity.

Mondess122 said:

So where exactly is "ah never mind" between 0 and 10? ;)

Any one of an infinite amount of decimal numbers in between any two whole numbers below 6. 

^^^Yes.

Anyway, as for slasher films I like/dislike/whichever ...

As a kid, I really got off on the Friday the 13th movies; I liked the atmosphere -- well, the atmosphere in the first five entries, anyway -- I liked the whole hockey mask aesthetic with Jason, and I thought Jason was the most complex/sympathetic killer I'd seen in these kinds of films. As I grew older, though, the plotholes, gaping continuity errors, lacklustre writing, and flat characterization became evermore apparent to me.

Now, as an adult, while I still like the basic look of Jason -- Human Jason, that is; Zombie Jason looks like a walking pile of shit in a hockey mask -- I find the character himself a big fat cypher and the entire F13 franchise a mediocre waste of time.

Here's how I'd rate the series now:

Friday the 13th: A New Beginning - 7/10

Friday the 13th (1980) - 6/10

Friday the 13th, Part II - 6/10

Friday the 13th, Part III - 6/10

Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday - 6/10

Friday the 13th, Part VI: Jason Lives - 6/10

Friday the 13th, Part VII: The New Blood - 6/10

Friday the 13th, Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan - 5.5/10

Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter - 5/10

Jason X - 4/10 

With the Nightmare on Elm Street franchise, while I was more-or-less indifferent to the series as a kid, these films -- depending on which entries in the series we're talking about -- have both improved and soured for me with time. Basically, I now only like the films Heather Langenkamp and Wes Craven were involved in; the rest -- excluding A Nightmare on Elm Street 2 -- are atrocious pieces of filth which only serve to piss me off for ruining the perfect ending of Part 3. 

Here's how I rate the ANOES films:

A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) - 9/10

A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors - 9/10

New Nightmare - 8/10

A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge - 6/10

Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare - 5.5/10

A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child - 4.5/10

A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master - 4/10

As for Freddy vs.  Jason, I give it 3/10. It's garbage, pure and simple; Robert Englund should set himself afire for having agreed to participate in it.

As for other slasher films/series...

I'm pretty much indifferent to the Halloween franchise; I only really enjoyed Halloween III -- which doesn't really count as a slasher -- was unimpressed by the original Halloween, barely remember any of the sequels and wasn't particularily taken with any of them regardless, and utterly hated the Rob Zombie remake.

I've seen the original Black Christmas twice. I liked it both times, but it only really impressed me the first time; I guess watching it in the middle of summer as opposed to the dead of winter had some bearing on that.

I've seen the first Child's Play, liked it moderately, but haven't watched any of the sequels and don't plan to.

Watched the first two Candyman films. I think I liked Tony Todd's performance more than the actual films themselves.

I've also seen the first three entries in the Hellraiser franchise. Suffice it to say, each entry was less impressive than the one before it, and I'm not going to bother watching any of the others.

The Scream films are overrated pieces of mediocre humbug.

And that's basically my history with slasher films.

Eventually, everyone upgraded their brains