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#1191180
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Matt.F said:

DuracellEnergizer, you obviously didn’t look at those websites too thoroughly or maybe you were just being ‘selective’ with what you chose to copy/paste. Under the concise definitions on the sites you linked there are examples of usage of the word apologist - shall we take a look?

“Her question reflected a conventional Republican gripe, namely that the State Department is a cooing dovecote, full of apologists for Abroad.”

“The most serious native challenge to liberalism, made by the slaveholding oligarchy of the Old South, was crushed on the battlefield, and, despite the efforts of an ever-dwindling number of apologists, morally anathematized.”

“Its condemnation of America in general and the war in Iraq in particular meant that it became an apologist for totalitarian regimes.”

“The lives of American and British troops should not have been risked to rescue these apologists for terror.”

“English youth have been so educated time out of mind, and we have hundreds of thousands of apologists and admirers of injustice, misery, and brutality, as perpetrated among children.”

And on the Oxford English Dictionary page, the most respected of all dictionary sites, there are 15 given examples of how you would use the word apologist. Every single one has a negative connotation. Every one. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/apologist

Lets take a look!

‘The Soviet Union’s ideology had many adherents and apologists throughout the West.’
‘Obviously there have been, and will be, apologists who want to defend or explain away the embarrassing elements.’
‘Those are my passions and, not infrequently, their proponents and apologists will be my targets.’
‘Religious apologists have tended to argue from authority to justify their beliefs, often quoting from texts such as the Bible.’
‘I’m suggesting simply that they make their presence felt in ways that draw the distinction between themselves and the apologists.’
‘Her alibi, offered by her apologists, is that she was starved of affection - a euphemism for sex.’
‘Nor do the apologists for this failure carry conviction.’
‘Studies in English were produced either by apologists, sensationalists or conspiracy theorists.’
‘The apologists have argued that drugs were not involved in his death.’
‘But it was the nature of the attacks from the political party, its apologists and some journalists that interested me most.’
‘But isn’t an apologist for racism who uses racist arguments a racist?’
‘Only those such as government spokesmen and official apologists for the war would deny this.’
‘My job here is not to be an apologist, but technology can’t always save us from significant changes in human nature.’
‘The only kinds of writers excluded were supporters and apologists of totalitarianism.’
‘There is, of course, no need to imagine people who would make such claims: they were Nazis and their apologists.’
‘I do not intend to get into an argument with an apologist for mass murder such as yourself.’
‘To make a proper argument or ‘apology’ for Christianity, the apologist must speak in the same language as his hearer.’

Case closed gentlemen.

Brought to you by Matt.F.

Who totally doesn’t stink of smug self-satisfaction.

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#1191142
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Facepalms, Fist pumps, Whatever Faces, Don't Care Meters, Angry Faces, Crotch Kicks, Crying Faces, STFU, Deal With It, Derps, Oh Snap, Double Takes, and So On...(NSFW Language Advisory)
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Possessed said:

No you didn’t work them into the story you just tacked them on artlessly.

Drum-beating, humbug-sucking, storm-riding, greatest hits-slamming, 8 track-buying, car-stealing, pool/pinball/foosball-playing, fight-picking, car-torching Doors fan.

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#1191125
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Facepalms, Fist pumps, Whatever Faces, Don't Care Meters, Angry Faces, Crotch Kicks, Crying Faces, STFU, Deal With It, Derps, Oh Snap, Double Takes, and So On...(NSFW Language Advisory)
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Possessed said:

That’s not as climactic as I had hoped. You could at least spice it up with some harsh language or something.

Hamstring-playing, caviar-salting, teeth-painting, ankylosaur-petting conquistador.

Better now?

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#1191045
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Matt.F said:

Jay said:

Please read the 10 or so posts regarding the word “apologist” and how it’s only a negative term if you don’t understand the meaning of the word.

Lol, I hope this is a joke!

"An apologist is a person who argues in favor of something unpopular. … Apologists tend to be seen in a negative light, as defensive people who make excuses. The word apologist comes from the Greek word apologia, meaning speaking in defense. “an enthusiastic apologist for fascism in the 1920s”

From merriam-webster.com:

“One who speaks or writes in defense of someone or something.”

From collinsdictionary.com:

“An apologist is a person who writes or speaks in defence of a belief, a cause, or a person’s life.”

From dictionary.com:

“A person who makes a defense in speech or writing of a belief, idea, etc.”

From thefreedictionary.com:

“A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.”

From macmillandictionary.com:

“Someone who defends something such as a belief.”

And just to show I’m not being selective in the sources I’m quoting from:

From en.oxforddictionaries.com:

“A person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial.” (Not that “controversial” automatically equals “negative”.)

From dictionary.cambridge.org:

“A person who supports a particular belief or political system, especially an unpopular one, and speaks or writes in defence of it.”

From vocabulary.com (Your source, I believe):

“An apologist is a person who argues in favor of something unpopular.”

That’s eight definitions from eight separate sources. Four are neutral; one is ambiguous; one has a negative slant, but isn’t wholly negative; only one is outright negative.