DougieP

NeverarGreat said:

That would be extremely difficult, since there are two scenes where actors are immersed in holograms that would need to be changed. There’s also the bigger problem of just what the First Order is looking for, since it’s implied that they already have the large map from the records of the Empire (which is where R2 originally got the map according to the writers). So the First Order would be searching for a map that they already have, a movie-killing mistake. And in this edit, since the First Order is apparently unconcerned with destroying the Resistance to eliminate BB8, their quest to find Luke would be dropped entirely for a ‘Destroy the Republic’ plan instead.

I did try and think of a way to fix your points but, like you said, theres actors walking in, around and through the maps. Although that may be a very big problem, I think that might be the only one however, as we only know that the First Order has a part of the map due to a line from Kylo when he is interrogating Rey, which can be cut.

The Resistance dont know that the map isn’t complete until they receive it from BB8 (Han: “Maps not complete…” and 3PO: “I am afraid that this map is only partially complete.”). The Resistance would obviously not tell the first order that it isn’t complete which is why they continue to search for the droid and grab Rey. Once Kylo can’t get the map (still thinking its a complete one) they decide to destroy the Rebublic in an attempt at slowing them down. Even with dialogue cuts to try and support this, Im not sure if the rest of the narrative would be able to support this enough for the audience to fully understand.

I’ll drop it now though. This doesnt have anything to do with Hal’s topic.

NeverarGreat said:

If R2 had received a transmission at the end of the movie, I’d expect that would be from Luke detailing the location of the Last Jedi Temple and his route. In other words, R2 would have received the small piece of the map that BB8 has. That would mean that BB8 would have had the larger map, which would have showed the entire galaxy except for the piece that Luke would have still had to travel when he gave the map to Lor San Tekka.

Of course, that would mean that nobody would have been able to assemble a full map until the transmission, making the scramble by the Resistance and the First Order rather silly in retrospect.

You make some very good points that I can’t argue against. I’ll have to abandon my idea and rethink my strategy…

Hi, everyone! Ive been a long-time reader of the forums and have now finally decided to join in a little bit.

Anyway, Ive been reading your discussions on both Finns “It’s the First Order, they done it!” dialogue and the waking up of R2 at the end. I have been making my own fan edit where I am working towards the same goals as this edit is (as well as some of my own changes).

I am completely removing Finns previously mentioned line of dialogue and removing the lip flap left over by superimposing different mouth movements over Finn, frame by frame. It looks good and is almost finished as it is missing the running sound as he approaches Han. I see that you are trying to go with changing it to “The First Order, they found us!” but if you wish to have a look, I can upload it later (at work now).

As with the waking of R2, I am trying to give a reason for it by using some C3PO dialogue that was used in Disney’s “Star Tours: The Adventure Continues” attraction. During the ride, C3PO says “A transmission?”, then later “What transmission?”. I used someone’s vacation video on YouTube to grab the dialogue and am in the middle of cleaning it up and removing the sound of the crowd. Using this would result in:

BB8 approaches R2, they beep and boop. Then C3PO appears.
3PO: Ah, my friend, youve come back.
R2: Beep boop
3PO: A transmission? What transmission? (R2 was woken by the recieving of the transmission)
R2: Beep boop
3PO: Master Luke? (Dialogue taken from another movie, probably ROTJ. This implies it was Luke who sent the transmission)
R2: Beep boop
3PO: Hurry, we must go tell the others at once.
And the movie continues…

Im probably less than half way to finishing the R2 scene and not 100% sure if this would work as I um uncertain if R2 can actually recieve transmissions in this way. Anybody know? If any of these edits help in any way, just let me know.