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#191434
Topic
ADigitalMan's Guide to MPEG2/AC3 Editing
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/191434/action/topic#191434
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Ok, this is making me nuts now. It should be simple and basic and I can't get it to work.
I ripped the audio and video with DVDdecrypter.

I scanned for errors even though I never do (none found by the way). Moved the clips into Womble. That's where it goes funny.
The video is 23.976 with pulldown flags of 29.97 (as is common).
Womble shows the runtime bloated (almost an hour longer) and of course the audio and video don't sync.

So I used dgpulldown and used custom 23.976 -> 23.976. The output file shows as 23.976 at 23.976.
In Womble the runtime is now correct and it ends at the same place as the audio.
Except when playing the preview, the audio and video are out of sync even though the visually the two parts are right.
Any ideas here?

Edit: I found the problem. The video has to be extracted as Raw not Demuxed. That's interesting.
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#191028
Topic
ADigitalMan's Guide to MPEG2/AC3 Editing
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/191028/action/topic#191028
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Well with something like Womble you can edit the audio and video at the same time. So a cut in the vid is a cut in the audio.

It sounds like with Vegas you need to have the video edited, but then you'll have to find the audio pieces, do your edits to match the video that's already had the work done, and make sure the audio syncs correctly as you go.
Basically at least twice as much work since you have to do your edit twice.
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#190460
Topic
ADigitalMan's Guide to MPEG2/AC3 Editing
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/190460/action/topic#190460
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When I did the Star Wars Trilogy I used Womble with PCM audio. I used the 2 audio track spaces and did crossfades between them every time I had to correct for missing frames in the PAL film.

My next project is going to be a full and seriously ambitious fan edit. The original film I'm working with has a lot of orchestrals that span scene changes. If I re-edit things aren't going to mesh. Crossfades seem like they'll be a necessity. I don't want to do it if I can't keep the audio in 5.1, but to use Vegas sounds like days (weeks?) more work than the quick on the fly freedom that Womble gives. It's a shame Womble can't recode 5.1 like it does everything else...

Or does it. I just saw that they have Mpeg Video Wizard DVD that supports AC3. Anyone have a chance to play with it? Is it full 5.1 or just 2.0?
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#189667
Topic
Johnny Mnemonic Japan Cut <JM> Extended (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/189667/action/topic#189667
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OMG, I love this movie. Someone just pointed me to this thread. I wish I got here sooner.

I had gotten the screenplay book from my local library a couple years back and created a sub file from that for an Xvid version floating around. I don't speak Japanese or Mandarin (so as long as the actors stuck to the script then it's fine).

The only real discrepancy was the first scene in Takeshi's office. In the U.S. version (which is of course subbed for that scene), they either went off script, the scene was cut, or the subtitles were over simplified. I put it back to the original script's version for story purposes. Most importantly they refer to themselves as Yakuza now which I don't actually think is mentioned at any other point in the movie. You otherwise have the impression they work for the corporation and are not freelance thugs. Since Yakuza is Japanese you should hear them say it, but I don't, so again, my sub file takes liberties, but I am a big Gibson fan and felt his words were more important.

If anyone is interested in comparing the subs, here's mine:

http://rapidshare.de/files/14776922/JM_Johnny_Mnemonic_103min_jap_Version.sub.html
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#189170
Topic
Dune?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/189170/action/topic#189170
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Frankly I picked up and tried to read the book several times throughout my life (my mom a huge sci-fi buff loved it) and I couldn't get into it.
After watching and loving Lynch's Dune (regular and extended) several times I was finally able to get through the book.
The reason being that the characters and the politics were so thick it was almost impenetrable, but after the movie it was like re-reading the book and already knowing the confusing names and political in-fights.

I've now read all of the ORIGINAL Dune books (yes even God Emperor *ug*, but worth reading for the fantastic wrap up to the series that follows) and now find Lynch's movie intolerable for the liberties he's taken. Go figure.

Anyone out there want to do some creative special effecting to cleanup the SciFi version and remove the painted back-drops that stand out horrifyingly on the DVD? OCP?
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#189164
Topic
Dr. M's Reinventing The Wheel Edition (PAL to NTSC+) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/189164/action/topic#189164
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Sorry you don't like the brighter whites, it's actually really really minor compared to moth3r's original.

As far as the fuzzy area near the top, unfortunately that's a bit of an artifact from the sharpening process. When a black border crosses into the actual video the filter assumes it's an edge. That can leave a bright white band across it. To stop it you have to mask the filter to prevent it from sharping the first line or two on all 4 sides. This causes it's own artifacting, but not nearly as distracting as the white line.

Before anyone asks, yes I did try cropping all borders before sharpening but for some reason that screwed up the unsharp filter causing weird diagonal black lines across the picture. It had to be sharpened before all other filters.

I told you there were trade offs.
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#187674
Topic
.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/187674/action/topic#187674
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And most importantly it's a matter of diminishing returns. Few people are going to be able to take advantage of it, 50% of the people who go HiDef will buy the format that dies (maybe both formats will die if we're lucky and we can move on to Holography discs), there'll be a higher cost per disc and to top it all there will be little improvement in overall quality.
DVD are backwards compatible with both formats and DL discs are just getting cheap.

MeBe: Where did you read that about people returning HDTVs, it's hillarious? Reminds me of people returning widescreen DVDs thinking their loosing the top and bottom of their movie.

And to go way off subject: Mandated HDTV broadcast in '09, yikes have you seen the price of a decent sized HDTV versus a standard definition one? Man talk about governement created class division. Trailerpark Joe must buy a $100-200 converter to watch TV on his $90 Walmart TV (or he can watch snow). Everyone else can crack out $1000 if they don't want to lose any height on their 20" 4x3 TV when you go wide. You think HD-DVD/BluRay is a fiasco? Just wait until '09.

Patrick R.: If you want funny, they figure most HiDef DVDs at launch will be multiple regular DVD's shoehorned onto one disc. Eg. SciFi Channel's Dune on 1 disc instead of 3.
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#187347
Topic
.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/187347/action/topic#187347
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The problem is we'd be looking at a year or so before there's any real shake down of HD-DVD vs. BluRay, probably longer.
So they'd either have to make both or gamble on a possible obsolete upconversion.
Besides the cost of blanks and how few early adopters there's likely to be in the group, I think their time is better spent on the DVD version and maybe a Xvid HD like Citizen.