Any progress on this?
I just got a hankering to watch this again.
Btw, according to Wikipedia, there was a Japanese DVD relese of the original UK pilot.
Has anyone seen that anywhere?
Edit: Cinemageddon
I was wondering if ADM is working on HBP.
@FF: You can make the change yourself and post the updated IFO's for people to download.
I think board rules would even let you link them directly from the thread here since it contains no actual video/audio data.
Ziz said:
How do I get a Demonoid invite?
Wow, do you even need one? I didn't know they were still doing that. Considering the tracker isn't private, that's pretty silly.
TehParadox please.
TV's Frink said:
Mielr said:
OCP did that with his 'classic' editions. Unfortunately, the OOT segments were from laserdisc (as they were done before the GOUT DVDs were released) and they have some other flaws, but they're still fairly decent, IMO. But right now my favorite editions are the ones dark_jedi made using G-force's scripts.
I actually found OCP's OOT segments extremely distracting, which is what eventually led me to dark_jedi's versions.
I completely agree. The patched in jittery laserdisc footage floating in windows of crystal clear DVD footage was not a good answer.
I was just shopping for Bedknobs and Broomsticks only to discover that the only cut on DVD is a recently extended one with variable quality footage, and noticeable new overdubs.
Is anyone considering recutting this film back to the original theatrical version, I can't find my old VHS to use as a guide. I have to rely on someone else to do this. Any takers?
Here is what UltimateDisney.com had to say about the new cut:
I'm not sure that the restorations do the movie any favor. Oh, it is surely a treat to see songs and footage shot and edited for the film (how many other pre-DVD age Disney flicks have given us any?). But besides introducing picture and sound inconsistencies, the reinserted sequences also appear to wreak havoc on the movie's pacing. "Portobello Road", the fun musical number set in London's incomparable antiques marketplace area, is probably the film's best song. Here, its joys are tempered by minutes and minutes of cultural dances that move the film nowhere and feel quite out of place. The climax, in which Eglantine enchants museum war gear, runs far too long as well. With the couple of tunes that are undeleted, the total song count becomes nine, a lot for viewers with no specific liking for the genre.
The reason that the places in which Bedknobs drags gain notice is because the film is quite sharp and satisfying in most other spots. The visit to Naboombu, which finds Professor Browne officiating an anything-goes soccer match for a lion king, delights. The experiments with witchcraft divert, as do many of the interactions born out of the makeshift family and out of Eglantine and Emelius' eccentric, underplayed romance. The highlights may be easy to appreciate and identify spread out, but the film as a whole would play much better without slow, saggy bits. At the very least, the studio ought to give viewers the choice to experience Bedknobs and Broomsticks as it was in its original theatrical run and the next 25 years. Disney has not. And though it seems illogical to want less than what's given, I feel like Bedknobs would benefit from having scissors taken to it in the right (i.e. wrong) places.
Soooo.... Is anyone working on this?
I first started reading this thread and thought this was a crazy travisty.
Now that you are talking about making it a spoof of the OT Special Editions I'm laughing already.
Do it. Add stupid CG characters, multiple duplicates of things, and obvious terrible CG upgrades, etc.
It will be twice as funny.
Do you really have a ronto farting?
Edit: Any chance of adding the ghost of Hayden Christensen at the end?
Oh, and the interior of Space Ball 1 blue-ish.
There is some interesting colors noise in the grain as well, but still the picture is sharper and a bit cleaner.
Thanks for the clip.
belaraform said:
As far as I know, only the first batch or two of the Warner Archive titles were interlaced.
Quality on the official So Fine DVD is pretty darn good to my eye, and it is anamorphic OAR and progressive. I can throw up a few png's if anyone cares.
As much as I hate to retire the Laserdisc preservation which came out fantastically, I do like the new disc!
Any chance you could post a clip?
dark_jedi said:
I just bought the Ultimate Box Sets of both(1&2) and have a Blu-ray drive and can rip,but have no way to share the files,to big.
my little boy and I are going to start a HP marathon today,looks like his School will be closing due to WAY TO MUCH DAMN SNOW,so that is why I got in my big 4x4 and went to the store early this morning,nothing is open yet so I can't comment on quality yet or anything else,but I can soon.
"So the extended cut is the ABC edit, warts and all, making ADM's (and my edit here) a better alternative."
Not sure I agree with this statement though,your edits are NOT Blu-ray quality by a long shot,and how do you know the quality exactly without actually watching them for your self? they just came out,more to come later.
You misunderstand, I wasn't referring to picture quality. My comment was with regards to the cuts themselves. The ABC edit has poorly framed shots, bad overdubbing, continuity errors, and many other issues.
If you read the first post, you'll see what I'm talking about. ADM didn't have a few transitional bits the ABC cut has, but he fixed some basic problems ABC just didn't bother with.
The issue is that whoever assembled the extended cut was a hack. That cut should have been scrapped, not released on DVD (assuming it really is the exact same cut).
Quality-wise, my cut is only fair at best. There are compression and broadcast artifacts among other issues. I would definitely consider re-doing this from a better source if I had access to the source material, software, and know-how.
ChainsawAsh said:
It'd be wonderful to have your extended cuts in 1080p - I was planning on getting the UE Blu-Rays of all the films (skipping out on the regular editions) to get the extended cuts in high-def, and if I had high-quality 1080p MKVs of your extended cuts I'd be set on that and can just get the regular Blu-Rays of the theatrical cuts.
Just a suggestion. ;-)
The problem with that is the ABC broadcast was 720p. I would need to get a hold of the BD's (or recoded source since I don't have a BD drive) of the Theatrical and Extended cuts and then reconstruct the edit.
Also, since AFAIK there is still no NLE for HD content all cuts would have to be done in avisynth. That was how I started and I was juggling a half dozen nested scripts with loads of trim+trim+trim...etc.
When Womble goes HD, I'll consider it. ;)
Thanks, that link confirms that it is exactly the ABC cut. They even noted instances of fading to black and back in where ABC had but commercial breaks.
So the extended cut is the ABC edit, warts and all, making ADM's (and my edit here) a better alternative.
No Peeves scenes, nothing new, same continuity errors. Extended Cut Fail.
Thanks. I don't speak a word of German, but from the screenies you linked I'd say the ABC cut is EXACTLY what the new extended version is.
So much for 'never before seen'.
It also probably means the same editing flaws are still present.
I'll see about encoding an XviD of my edit for those that want to see if they are interested in a full DVD release.
Rather than start a new thread, I'll ask here.
The Digital Bits has had the opportunity to review the new Ultimate Harry Potter BDs and refer to the extended cuts as 'never before seen'. The do not, however, give futher details.
Does anyone have further intel on the new cuts or are they the same old extended cuts?
Big fan of J.J.'s & big fan of Star Trek. I may have issues with his vision of the Trek universe (that is Star Wars with Trek ships in it), but I still dug the film. It is just grossly overrated.
I'm more hopeful that we might see the a new TV series than I am about the movies actually ever having the correct tone and style again.
@pittrek - Thank you for saying the emperor has no clothes. Everyone 'loved' the new Trek film, and I felt it took the mickey out of all previous trek films and tv by doing the whole time travel thing.
It's a good action film, but I will never accept it as canon in the Trek universe. I like my ST slow and intellectual.
Uncanny Antman said:
Victor Garber's Klingon character states that they captured Nero's ship.
...And apparently keep it in orbit around Rura Penthe for some unknown reason. :D
Without dismantling it for future weapons tech... ok, maybe it was a good decision to cut those scenes.
While I haven't SEEN the deleted scenes, I get the impression Nero was captured by the klingons after the attack on the Kelvin and his ship escaped.
Nero is imprisoned on Rura Penthe (which explains what he was doing for 20+ years while Kirk and Spock grow up).
His ship eventually returns to spring him, which although not seen(?) is implied when Uhuru says they received a transmission of a Klingon prison planet being destroyed.
It actually ties the movie together better than 'random klingon prison planet has been destoryed'.
I forgot to post this before, but So Fine was recently added to the Warner Archive. I can't vouch for the quality. I'm told the discs in this collection tend to be 29.97i, but it seems to be anamorphic.
The low bitrate, low resolution flash video 'sample', available on Warner's site looks like this might be an improvement on the preservation. I just have a difficult time paying full price for a barebones disc that is dumped on the market.
http://www.wbshop.com/So-Fine-1981/1000122580,default,pd.html?cgid=
Really, the WA is a great idea, but these movies should be half the price.
It would be appreciated for anyone who picks this up to comment on it on this thread.
dark_jedi said:
Doctor M said:
I saw the single disc edition, and I thought the 2-disc only added a digital copy. Did it have these deleted scenes on disc 2?
Yes the 2 disc edition DVD and the 3 disc Blu-ray have 9 deleted scenes.
I did not know that. Cool.
That said, I'd love to see an extended cut of this.
Even better I'd like to see a cut with the lens flares removed. J.J. is an idiot to think it looks good. I was sick of the idea by episode 2 of Fringe. It doesn't look relistic, just like you don't know how to light your set.
As far as the fx, you might want to talk to Taolar or Adywan. They are the genius at that.
I saw the single disc edition, and I thought the 2-disc only added a digital copy. Did it have these deleted scenes on disc 2?
And as for Taolar's follow up ;-) has anyone else seen this: http://www.supermanreturnsthebryansingercut.com/
I don't think a Director's Cut will actually help, but it would mean more footage for an edit.
@bkev - I saw a new post on this thread and got all excited. Darn you!