Yeah, this project is very cool, let’s hope it continues and that everything is OK with TheAlaskanSandman IRL. These edits are a massive undertaking so maybe he is just having a burnout from all the work on these edits. =)
bryantmh, you have definitely squeezed more detail out of PT DVD deleted scenes that I have seen previously, nice work! I have one request though, would you be willing to upload the AOTC and ROTS upscales with higher bitrate? I think that would also help them blend better with other footage for faneditors using them.
Figuring out the best upscaling algorithms is always a worthy effort. Any updates on this?
Please link me as well!
Could you or someone else PM me this documentary, please?
Same for me, please!
Ok, switching to version 2.79b helped. I could not open my previously made crawl file in the older version, so I had to do kerning from scratch, but it seems to be rendering just fine now. Thanks for the help Jack!
I can’t get render to work, it just makes black screenshots. I’ve been trying to figure this out for a while. I’m using version 2.8 of Blender. Can Jackpumpkinhead or someone else let me know what version of the program is used in the tutorial video? I could try with that older version.
Sure. They are 3 shots, from the Jedi lighting their lighsabers in the end Theed battle to entering the big sliding hangar doors. This part is the worst I think:
So many issues with lighsabers in this movie when you start really paying attention. VC Saber is the Video Copilot Saber blugin right? I have to look into that flicker effect…
You might have fixed this already after the release of the trailer, but Qui Gon’s saber blade has always looked too short to me in the forest after they land on Naboo. I have fixed the shots myself on After Effects, so I can show you what I mean:
This same problem comes up later in the end Theed battle of the movie as well, Obi’s sabre especially looks half the length it should be on some shots. So if you agree I’d like to see these fixed in your edit. I can probably get you my AE files (if you used AE for sabers, can’t remember) to tinker further and speed up the work if you want. =)
Very interested how Luke is alive in this edit, I assume his shots are recycled from TLJ and BTS footage form TLJ and TROS? Surely recoloring his blue as balls force ghost (to make him look alive again) is beyond even the skills among fan editors? =)
Found this site: https://starwarsscreencaps.com/. Can someone better versed tell how accurate the captures are?
It would help if they had used the same frame for both and not one a few frames later in a shot that the camera is zooming in. fitting to the 2:39:1 ratio does not mean having to zoom in, cutting off the edges. Its a few pixels less top and bottom and, for the most part, the new transfers are less cropped than the 2011 blu-rays
Ah, I should have known better than trust stills from a moving shot! The screen capture from the Death Star hangar looks very promising, I’m glad I was proven wrong.
It would seem like the new transfers are “zoomed in” form 2:35:1 to 2:39:1, resulting in some lost scenery on all the edges of the picture (according to Force.net: https://boards.theforce.net/threads/the-eventual-release-of-the-prequel-trilogy-on-4k-blu-ray.50048066/page-6).
I can’t confirm since I have no Disney+ but if it’s true, could the 4K83 maybe be a better main source to work with after all?
Damned it seems there’s always something f:ing up the official releases.
An Idea: In TPM balcony scene with Sidious and Maul, I think the background should be tried to be changed into the worn down industrial area seen in the end of AOTC where Dooku meets Sidious. I think that would make most sense. It’s ridiculous that Palps struts around as Sidious in his senator apartment.
Also, could you share how are you doing the weather effects (dust, lightning, rain) seen in trailers, what effects pack are you using?
Yeah I actually DL:ed The Pruned Edition after I was done with my edit just for fun. Some of our cuts to jokes are exactly the same while others are subtly or very different. Really shows you how many different ways you can cut the scenes in a movie. Aside from the joke cuts all the other things mentioned above are not found on that edit so they are quite different.
After 5/5 first Guardians of the Galaxy movie it’s sequel disappointed me right after seeing it or actually already while watching it. The jokes didn’t land, mostly because they were stretched too long and the ending was trying way too hard to be a tear jerker. Luckily both these things suit well for fan editing!
This Fan Edit’s goals are:
-Make jokes better by cutting most of them sorter, leaving the viewers a chance to connect in their minds what is funny about the line or scene.
-Reduce the retardedness of Drax
-Make the twist little less obvious by cutting Mantis almost warning them before shit starts to hit the fan.
-Taking out Packman sound
-Trim the End to be less sappy.
The original edit really spoon-feeds you the jokes until they are no longer funny, the worst offender being Teaserface-jokes. Also, the fruit being not ripe joke and instructions for Groot’s fin stealing mission long joke for example have been trimmed to not hit you over the head with them.
Drax was socially unaware and stoic in the first movie, but here he is just a laughing buffoon. I’ve cut half his laughing sprees to make him a little bit more stoic and more in line with the first movie. He now laughs where there is at east some kind of reason to do so and not all the time randomly.
Packman sound is out because (although this is not a realistic movie by any means) where does the sound come from? Is Peter now able to conjure it somehow? And again the joke works better when it’s only visual. Also the Ego vs Peter fight is shortened a bit to not have to watch two CG- characters roll around so much.
Yandu’s babbling about controlling the arrow with his heart instead of mind is out because it’s out of character for a (ex) crime boss. Original is also trying soooo hard to pull your hard strings that I just started to wish they would hurry to the end credits. This takes out some drama of Rocket stopping Gamora to go help Quill and some end crying.
Original run time: 2 h 15 mins 46 sec
New run time : 2 h 10 mins 20 sec
Here is a trailer: https://vimeo.com/399444933
Pass: GG2edit
If someone is interested, ask me a link via PM
This project is very very interesting. I have done some effects in After Effects myself and with the things you are planning to do + Blender stuff, this project can easily rival Adywan’s timetable to the finish line. I love that the prequels are getting this much care though, so they can be up to bar with the Revisited.
I wish the purist version would have the Naboo invasion without the extra flames. I love the planet so much, it’s painful to see it half destroyed right away. 😃 So the purist version could be only polished effects and more radical stuff left to other versions. Your call of cource Sandman…
This sounds interesting. Did you ever considered adding the scenes from episodes 19 and 20 in season 2 of Agents of Shield that setup the movie? There is the raid on the Hydra base, where Coulson learns of Strucker`s base and contacts Maria Hill and maybe Theta Protocol?
No, because I never really got into Agents of Shield more than few episodes. I think it would just confuse only movies- watchers seeing Coulson alive. The only major plot hole imo is that the Loki’s scepter is in Hydra’s base in the beginning of the movie, but A: Endgame gave us an answer to that. =)
Glad to hear you have enjoyed it! =)
I’m very interested in this!
Not sure if the decision was already made but I vote for soft subs since I like the video stream to be “clean” and it’s more useful to future projects that way.
I would also like a change to get this from somewhere else than spleen since I don’t have access there…
Here is the most difficult change in the edit:
Since I dislike the overt on screen-dating of the timeline, I wanted to remove it and replace it. The BTS documentary ”The Furious Gods - Making Prometheus” had the same ”hero”- shot of the ship but only partly, missing the beginning. This meant that I did not have a clean video background footage for the whole shot. So I ended up doing several frames in Photoshop removing the text, from different parts of the footage. I then keyframed those stills to move and twist with the footage to work as a background when masking the unwanted text in the part that was missing the clean footage.
The jumps from one to next background still frame was a bit wonky in parts but luckily the new text covers it up quite nicely until the background video takes over. I also had to take the letters of my new text from elsewhere in the shot, clean them up and fade them in as separate layers. So the effect comp was quite busy with layers in the end.
I also ended up taking out the last text row because it’s a bit confusing in my edit as the mission briefing takes place before the journey begins. This was easier as the background footage was available as a whole.
Here is the link to a comparison video: https://vimeo.com/342370803
This is absolutely a class A edit. The punched up- effects shots are very subtle for the most part and I could not always tell the difference but the differences I spotted were really great! Especially in the beginning rescue 15Maf has combined many favorite elements of mine from both cuts and it’s seamless.
Only bad thing I can think of is the running time which is slightly longer than Assembly cut. 2 and half hours is a long time to watch all those bald heads. =) Maybe some more cuts could be made to bring down the running time but I’m not sure what (don’t know the movie well enough for that).
All in all I think I’m watching this again instead of my bluray the next time I’m watching Alien 3. I think I would only go back to the theatrical cut if I want to see a more compact version.
If you should ever reconsider putting the beginning with the engineers back in I’d just suggest from experience that the scene may be nicely expanded with some lifted material from Terrance Malnick’s ‘‘Tree of Life.’’
The engineers at the waterfall is in the movie , only later. Haven’t seen “Tree of Life” though, I should probably educate myself on Malick movies…
Sourses:
-Bluray
-Deleted scenes
-Behind the scenes
-Alien Covenant Prologue The Crossing
Prometheus is one of those movies that baffles the mind how in a movie with such potential and scope no-one voiced the illogical gaps in the script and the whole movie suffers for it. This edit tries to fix those issues as much as can be done with editing.
And oh man was this a long project. Something happened to the audio where only left and right channels where playing and it took me a long time to figure it out. (I tried to solve the issue from time to time, then got frustrated and did not touch the whole thing for a while). I still had to manually enable the missing audio channels every time I returned to the project after figuring it out. Plus all the color correcting and sound editing. Phew!
Biggest goals:
-To remove the stupid plot details as much as I could. The scientists are now little more careful in their moves, the DNA is not a direct match and so on…
-Reinstate the material that was left as deleted scenes that actually make the movie make more sense or is just too delicious to be left on the cutting room floor.
-Tone down the religious undertones. I felt they went too heavy with it in the original and personally it starts to annoy me in the original cut.
-Take out the obvious references to Xenomorphs, partly leftovers from earlier script version and the rest is unnecessary teasing/fan service.
Changes:
-Removed engineer from the beginning to the middle of the movie to ”build up the mystery” of what they look like (granted they are not super ”alien” though). Credit for this might go to Severian’s Prometheus:Giftbearer for this, can’t remember if I came up with it myself or not.
-Moved the mission brief before the start of the journey, so they know what they are signing up for.
-Removed on screen dates of the movie. I like to keep movies in Alien series not dated so clearly ,so they can be whenever in the future. This movie can therefore now be a sequel to Alien – movies. Also the clearly more advanced tech makes more sense that way.
-Removed people referring David as a robot because they are more commonly referred as androids in this series.
-Removed the scientist stupidity as much as I could: the helmets off-scene is shortened to not exaggerate how risky it is, less careless space snake petting and the severed engineer head is given a small Amp dosage and it’s not pumped up but straight down when the head has a reaction. Fifield can’t contact his mapping balls to give a better reason to be lost (credit to Severian’s Prometheus:Giftbearer for this).
-Took out some religious dialogue and references, like the bodies are 2000 years old and Shaw’s dream where she talks with her dad.
-I cut some of the Holloway’s lines to make him less of an ass after the first discovery and little more likable.
-Removed the info that DNA is a exact match, because how could it be? Seriously, this is a multimillion production and they have these childish mistakes.
-Removed med-pods ”only male”- function. Why would anyone design it that way? Stupid.
-Running away from falling ship shortened.
-Added many deleted scenes like encounter with a small alien worm, alternate Fifield- monster, multiple engineers at waterfall, engineer now speaks when woken up and searches Shaw in life boat-module in the end. These scenes are color corrected to match the movie and stereo is remade to 5.1 sound.
-In the end Shaw is not trying to go to Engineers’ home planet. Why would she want to go alone with David to a planet full of hostile aliens for any question? And she already has a big wound in her stomach.
Also some Alien Covenant promo material edited to the end 😉.
Here is a teasery trailer: https://vimeo.com/342372325
Original run time: 2 h 04mins
New run time : 2h 00 mins
If someone is interested, just ask me a link via PM.
My other edits:
Avengers: Age of Ultron – Improved Edition : https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Avengers-Age-of-Ultron-Improved-Edition/id/65907
This sound very promising, it seems a lot of detailed work went into this.
For undoubtedly the most iconic shot in the film - Ripley’s dread approaching her at close quarters as she flattens herself against the infirmary wall…I decided to try and tart up the creature’s approach immediately beforehand. There are many shots of the rod puppet that don’t work very well at all, but this stands out due to the sheer inky wet quality of the full scale hero head prop in the profile shot it cuts to.
Yeah, this part has always bothered me the most, the cut between “different aliens” is very noticeable. I’m interested in seeing your fix solution for the scene and for other effect scenes.
Can I have a PM, please?