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#1352023
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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idir_hh said:

If we’re to have Ben Solo die, I think the best way to go about it would be to have him heal Rey and die while Palpatine is busy turning the fleet into a BBQ. We have the force ghosts appear like normal but when Rey is about to ignite the second lightsaber, Ben Solo’s force ghost appears with his hand reached out just like the rest, ending Sidious with a final blow.

Later he would appear with Luke, Leia ( and maybe Han’s) ghosts on Tatooine.

A more meaningful death and redemption!

Except the area is rubble at this point and there’s no ships above getting zapped, so the background looks pretty different if you move this scene up. I don’t disagree this is a cool idea though. May just look out of place without some additional vfx.

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#1351985
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Jackpumpkinhead said:

jonh said:

(I have put this in another thread)
Shit! I have noticed that in part 2, an unwanted frame. i just fixed the vesion, shit shit shit, f_king ghosts. sorry friends I’m a disaster (artist) hahah
I don’t know what done! I upload them again
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ev1ODAXgouAIuTH5c2neUsGzxdDsJRG5
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OT3RpMKUx2RXdGWDK6Kwz5HFvKQDxbLF
on the other hand, I have made a different version of the most closed close-ups of the jedi, in part 1, obi wan is new … I upload it so that people choose the version that they like the most.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QMCqY5AoESOLGeIAZXWdmSWi7q_ZQ8L_

Sorry!!!

Jonh, I know you’ve spent a lot of time to get this right, and I really think you have done a great job. But I do have a suggestion, what if after Rey says, “and I am all the Jedi” we see the same shot of the ghosts as before, but then they start to enter Rey, as though they are inhabiting her. You could use a similar effect as when Palps is sucking the life force from Kylo and Rey. But it would work in reverse until the ghosts completely disappear.

I also think this “force sucking” effect would be good to see when Rey heals the cave worm. It would set a precedent for that force ability early on.

Eh, some guy already tried the Jedi entering her, and it just seems silly to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q_32BFqGac

I think what jon has now is already perfect. The ghosts are actively using the Force to help Rey repel Palpatine, and it’s not just ‘oh, I have a second saber now, so take that!’

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#1351688
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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jarbear said:

Vision or not, Ben cannot survive.

Like Darth Vader, these two were only “redeemed” by one person. The whole galaxy would not forgive these Space Hitlers. It is a simpler ending to have them die, then to have them live. Ben would have to stay in hiding for the rest of his life from THE ENTIRE GALEXY and Rey would have to hook up with him in secret since she would be aiding and abetting A MASS MURDERER.

The more I think of the “Reylo” thing it makes me roll my eyes harder and harder.

Anyway, that’s my two cents on that topic.

Yeah, Ben has to go. I get the point of using a fan edit to make some big creative changes, but I just don’t see how anyone believes he should survive. The movie did such a poor job of executing the redemption of his character as it was (which is definitely an aspect that can be improved through an edit), but outright letting him live sends a dangerous message. This would be no different than Vader surviving. Sacrifice is really the best redemptive arc a character like Vader or Ben can have, considering all the atrocities they’ve performed. You are going to have a galaxy worth of skeptical citizens…now, imagine that person not only surviving but living among you. “But he’s changed…!” A life of isolation is the only realistic path here, but then that just makes for a sadder story than what we got. Ben becoming one with the Force and potentially showing up at the end as a Force ghost is consistent with mythology and is really the best case you can realistically hope for.

More power to anyone wanting to keep Ben alive in their edit, it’s just not a believable story decision for me personally. My 13-year old loves Disney stuff and she’s seen the sequel films and actually cringed at the Reylo moment. “Why would she kiss that maniac? He was such a bad person!” Couldn’t fool this teenager, but nice try Disney! 😃

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#1351139
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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I personally didn’t mind the “balloon trooper”. That’s how I imagine someone would zip around if their jetpack was damaged. That’s what Ahsoka did a few different times to Mandalorians during her descent into Mandalore in TCW S7E9. Personally, what bothered me more than that trooper was the crew landing in the sinking fields (exactly where they needed to be), miles from a random chase after fleeing the First Order. Having a chunk of the movie be a fetch quest was annoying enough, but then having something as ridiculous as quicksand ex machina right where they needed it was too much for me. I’ve been experimenting with that chase and some of the dialogue from Pasaana and was able to eliminate that whole bit by implying they knew the whole time they needed to go to the caves because that’s where Luke told them to go (per 3PO’s dialogue). The chase audio isn’t quite there yet, but you’ll get the idea of how this could work with a little more refinement. Check it out…

https://vimeo.com/424644451
fanedit

JEDIT: Also, here’s another minor annoyance I don’t think has been mentioned on here yet (I don’t think).

https://vimeo.com/424641561
fanedit

A simple fix, but that door never should have been closed if the movie wasn’t going to show it open up again before Rey flies through it. Maybe Evil Rey’s magical hiss powers opened it just beforehand and we didn’t hear it. 😃

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#1350982
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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@smpearce1981

I kinda see what you mean, but I don’t necessarily agree. Palpatine says before that he can give him so much more. Kylo is just bypassing the ‘sith overtakes him’ talk and asks what he means about giving him so much more. He can indulge Palps without wanting to do what he wants (which seems more what Palpatine wants, not Kylo). Kylo’s just concerned about the power aspect, which could be about the Final Order that Palps just mentioned. Then, he proceeds to show the fleet. It’s a fair point you make, I guess I just don’t personally have an issue with the dialogue composition.

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#1350976
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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idir_hh said:

That translates really well!
I think the line “as all the Sith live in ME” should be pulled back just a tad so that the word “Me” syncs to when his mouth opens.

Oh yeah, I meant to look at the lips. Moving some of that dialogue back to Rey’s scene shortens the swooping camera around to Palpatine so there’s plenty of room to play with in the timing. I’m not going to render another clip, but it should be easy if anyone wants to use the idea.

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#1350973
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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idir_hh said:

“I have died before… Kill me, and my spirit will pass into you as all the Sith live in ME(face reveal).”

I almost used that in my mockup. I like ‘I have died before’ and hated to lose it. Honestly, saving ‘You want to kill me…that is what I want’ until the end would provide more information for Rey. It could be followed by him saying she’ll be empress and they will be one…that would provide all the context needed I think for the end to justify her not killing him right away, yet still provide all the setup at the beginning of the movie with the Kylo talk. Good idea!

JEDIT: Updated clips implementing idir_hh’s idea:

https://vimeo.com/424542591
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https://vimeo.com/424542665
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#1350962
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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idir_hh said:

Here’s a little switch around I was thinking of. What if for a Ben lives edit we save Leia’s intervention and death for when Ben is about to resurrect Rey, it would make for a more meaningful send off for Leia as well as a nice way of keeping Ben alive.

For the Death star scene you could have a combination of Luke, Leia and Han appearing before Kylo with a v.o of “come home”.
Maybe something like RogueLeaders mockup of a faded Leia.

Someone had an idea like this some pages back (either here or the redux thread) using Leia’s ‘We can still save him’ line from TFA. Anyone know if Carrie Fisher says ‘her’ or ‘together’ or something we could frankenbyte? Ben does hold Rey for a long time thinking and mourning, plenty of time to insert some voices. It would seem fitting that Leia is there to help as her last act. It would certainly help justify keeping her body around until the end of movie. And maybe she even fades away after Rey is revived instead of during Kylo’s death.

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#1350806
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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RogueLeader said:

Random idea regarding Palpatine:

One gripe I’ve heard people bring up before is Palpatine committing the “Evil Gloating” trope when he tells Rey that if she kills him, his spirit will pass into her.

Palpatine: You want to kill me. That is what I want. Kill me, and my spirit will pass into you, as all the Sith live in me.

This may have been suggested before, but I was thinking this line could be moved to Kylo’s first scene with Palpatine, replacing Palpatine response after one of these two lines:

Kylo: I killed Snoke. I’ll kill you.

or

Kylo: You’ll die first.

I personally think it would fit better to replace Palpatine repeating the “to cheat death” line that doesn’t do anything beyond being a callback. Either way, I think this change would accomplish a few things. First, we get a stronger explanation and understanding of Palpatine’s true nature and means of survival at the beginning of the film rather than the end. Second, it provides a good reason for why Kylo didn’t just immediately kill him. And third, it creates dramatic irony during the climax, because we know what is at stake if Rey kills Palpatine, but she doesn’t. So hopefully the audience would react by thinking, “No no no, Rey, don’t do it he’ll possess you!”

RL, this is brilliant. I liked the idea so much I did a quick test. The timing for the Kylo part is perfect, and most of Palpatine is obscured anyway so you can pretty much put in whatever dialogue you want there and not have to worry about the lip movements matching:

https://vimeo.com/424408915
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Out of curiosity, I also rendered a clip of the Rey section with those lines removed and it works pretty well here too. Since Palpatine mentions Rey’s hatred in the next scene, cutting it here and leading into the empress line makes me not even miss the moved dialogue over to the Kylo scene. (P.S.- It’s not Rey ‘Palpatine’ in this version)

https://vimeo.com/424408966
fanedit

Exceptional creativity, man. This really does change some motivations, as you stated previously. Plus, it removes the prequel redundancy dialogue, which you really don’t need if you show Palpatine in the clone tanks. I don’t miss the callback at all by making the change. Well done.

JEDIT: It’s also interesting that going this route makes Kylo the true vessel. Palpatine has been grooming him for quite a while, but Kylo doesn’t want to be taken over, so he decides he’ll take Palps up on his offer instead…more ships, more power…all he has to do is kill the girl who is a threat to them both (and Palps would likely betray him later). This simple dialogue switch sets up motivations now for a good chunk of the movie and eliminates the silliness of Palpatine wanting Rey to kill him at the end of the film, seemingly out of the blue after he’s wanted her dead the whole movie. Now, we know much earlier why he wants this and that Rey is now Plan B with Kylo taken off the Sith board. Genius…

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#1350551
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Yeah, the dagger is kind of useless once 3PO says to go to the Endor system. It’s pretty obvious once they see the DSII that it’s on there. 3PO even says ‘emperor’s vault’. But if you wanted to keep it, I think it would be better if the dagger activated the door to where the dagger is. No unnecessary and unrealistic goonies moment. Personally, I think you could cut around the dagger easily. Just cut Rey’s line about needing it and also Finn mentioning it to Chewie. Just have a voice get Rey’s attention. Could be one from her vision/her parents/whatever to make her want to investigate it more. All you have to do is get her into Kylo’s quarters somehow, following a voice in her head. Then she can come across the dagger coincidentally while she’s there.

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#1350415
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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axlanian said:

DarthYcey said:

Yeah, no problem. Btw, you’ll probably go a more conservative route with Mustafar, but thought I’d share a mockup I did to extend it and actually further Kylo’s arc beyond a minute long fetch for a holocron. If people could get permission from these guys to actually use the footage in their edits (I haven’t tried), it could be a very useful addition. I’ve made enough test edits at this point trying to fix issues, I should just start a thread and take a crack at doing the whole movie. haha

https://vimeo.com/423418971
fanedit

I feel like if the actual fight was trimmed more (and if Vader’s lines were cobbled together from actual James Earl Jones lines) this would work quite well. The vocal impression really pulls you out of the scene.

jordan_winter said:

DarthYcey said:

Yeah, no problem. Btw, you’ll probably go a more conservative route with Mustafar, but thought I’d share a mockup I did to extend it and actually further Kylo’s arc beyond a minute long fetch for a holocron. If people could get permission from these guys to actually use the footage in their edits (I haven’t tried), it could be a very useful addition. I’ve made enough test edits at this point trying to fix issues, I should just start a thread and take a crack at doing the whole movie. haha

https://vimeo.com/423418971
fanedit

This is absolutely fantastic! Overall I loved it and it really makes me sad that we didn’t get something of this level in the final cut. For the final movie in the Skywalker saga it makes me sad that the only call back to Vader (apart from the mask) was that one line on Exegol.

I do have a few nitpicks. First, the quality of the clips in the flashback are a little… off. I’m guessing this is due to the change in colour to try and get them to match TRoS?

The sound effects during the battle with the cultists either need to be ramped up or cut entirely.

The Star Destroyer that jumps out of hyperspace is a Final Order ship but then the TIEs are First Order flying towards Kylo’s destroyer. Bit confused by this, I’d maybe remove that Destroyer jump.

The fan film fight could probably be trimmed a little. Too much time with it and it’s becomes more obvious that it’s a fan film. I am surprised at how well it works though. Clever idea using the colour change and that clip of Kylo shaking his head chefs kiss

Otherwise though, bravo on some incredible editing!

Yeah, I actually cut almost a minute of the duel already…it’s quite long if you’ve seen the original. But I could see cutting even more of it to make the vision go by faster. The new Vader lines are from Battlefront 2, so obviously a different voice actor. And the destroyer jump is just temp (I know it’s a final order ship). The quality isn’t hi-res…it was mostly just a rough test to see if the concept would work. Appreciate the feedback!

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#1350276
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Yeah, no problem. Btw, you’ll probably go a more conservative route with Mustafar, but thought I’d share a mockup I did to extend it and actually further Kylo’s arc beyond a minute long fetch for a holocron. If people could get permission from these guys to actually use the footage in their edits (I haven’t tried), it could be a very useful addition. I’ve made enough test edits at this point trying to fix issues, I should just start a thread and take a crack at doing the whole movie. haha

https://vimeo.com/423418971
fanedit

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#1350251
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

I should have written it down because now I can’t remember!! Who’s DarthYcey on vimeo? I wanted to ask if you’d be able to export a ProRes version of your sequencing of part 2 of the ghost-relevant scene.

It’s the sort of thing I normally wouldn’t mind just recreating from eyeballing it, but any timesaves are immensely helpful.

Actually, I sent jonh my newly-timed version a few days ago. I believe he’s working on exporting a high-quality version with that sequencing of shots. I didn’t have hi-res footage myself when I threw that together, which was really just a (successful) test of whether shots could be trimmed and/or rearranged to maintain the existing music.

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#1348690
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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joshuabri said:

Here is a quick mock up.
https://vimeo.com/422141075
Password: deathstar
Samuel Kim’s full track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHxOg6zNg9Q

Bear in mind my edit is removing Palpatine and this acts as the final big showdown. It will be intercut with the fleet battle over Exegol so I will probably rescore each section individually for better timing of musical cues, nor did I bother smoothing the film’s audio where Finn and Jannah were cut.

Not bad, but if you’re looking to use Samuel Kim’s music for that final duel, you may want to consider something that is less prequel-specific. Here’s a version with Sam’s TROS Battlefront 2 mix that uses motifs from Kylo and Rey and seems to fit better IMO.

https://vimeo.com/422058008
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#1348572
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Eh, I’ve seen the Battle of the Heroes and DotF music mentioned multiple times here, but personally don’t know why we’d want to borrow a prequel-specific theme for the final Kylo/Rey duel. To me, this screams TPM and ROTS. It’s not like the main SW theme, or Force theme, etc. that’s been used across the whole saga. These are very specific to certain people and/or events and don’t come across as a good fit to me for this fight. For the hell of it, here’s a different take I just made that mixes in some Kylo and Rey motifs. See if you guys recognize the source. Seems like a better fit to me for the first half of the battle before JW’s The Final Duel music kicks in.

https://vimeo.com/422058008
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#1348371
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Movies Remastered said:

jonh said:

I personally would not add any more ghosts …
two on each side is perfect! 😃

My plans were to add everyone you heard the voice of but I feel you delivered an excellent scene and it works perfectly as it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q_32BFqGac

This was kinda cool the first time I saw it, but it’s really busy. I love the subtlety to jonh’s ghosts more and that they stay there to fight rather than just possess Rey.

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#1347164
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Neerb said:

DarthYcey said:

Something like this…

https://vimeo.com/420549863
fanedit

As someone else mentioned in the thread, Poe and Rey just met at the end of the last movie and they unnecessarily go at each other’s throats the next time we see them onscreen. I really didn’t like this scene at all, especially because of the lightspeed skipping talk, but it works now I think with some clever edits.

That’s not bad, but maybe too short in an already jumpy opening (though Hal might say otherwise).

Personally, I enjoyed their bit of back-and-forth in the theatrical. It was a bit hostile, but it was nice seeing some kind of relationship between them, and Finn trying to calm the two down works well from what the audience knew from the last movies, which is that Finn is the mutual friend keeping the group together while Rey and Poe aren’t that close.

On that note, another problem (besides just the length and my personal preference) with that edit is that Rey and Poe both seem to be in a bad mood, and while Poe might just be shaken by his adventure and disturbed by the news, I’m not sure why Rey would be upset after having just calmed herself in her previous scene.

Yeah… Someone else is welcome to take a crack at it, but there’s so much lightskipping talk, and JJ loves his one-shot spinning camera, so there’s very little wiggle room to fake a transition. BB8 was a good spot to do it earlier with a reaction shot, and Rey’s final line is a perfect response to Finn mentioning the message, but I suppose you wouldn’t have to make that last cut if you liked all the bickering at the end. It just turned me off on the first viewing. It’s not like Rey isn’t doing anything…she’s training. I guess Poe thinks she should be out there doing more since the first time he saw her she was moving a bunch of boulders haha.

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#1347153
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

Ideally the mention of lightspeed skipping could be elegantly removed without losing the earlier or later portions of the scene. Ending the iceberg escape scene with the falcon entering hyperspace without TIEs would be ideal, save for effects or holes left later on.

Something like this…

https://vimeo.com/420549863
fanedit

As someone else mentioned in the thread, Poe and Rey just met at the end of the last movie and they unnecessarily go at each other’s throats the next time we see them onscreen. I really didn’t like this scene at all, especially because of the lightspeed skipping talk, but it works now I think with some clever edits.

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#1346908
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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krausfadr said:

DarthYcey said:

I’ve sent earlier versions of my “Leia Intervenes” edit over on Hal’s thread, but there doesn’t seem to be much interest in the idea for his film, so I’m posting the “final” version I just finished here in case others may find it useful.

In short, I always felt Leia should have had a larger role in Ben’s turn from the dark side, not just say his name to distract him. This edit re-imagines her role in his redemption. I’ve restructured and re-scored some parts to make the changes mesh together well. Kudos to Cinefy for the inspiration on Ben’s ‘toss the saber’ music. This also includes parts of DominicCobb’s new Rey Vision. Hope you like it…

https://vimeo.com/420145483
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I like having Han be what distracts Ben during the fight. I would just make the first cut to him very brief. Then remove that same shot of Han later, the one before he starts talking to Ben (maybe start with the wide shot of the two on the ledge). However delaying Leia’s death actually lessons the dramatic impact because then her reference has to be removed from Han and Ben’s conversation.

Yeah, good point about a quicker Han cut and using different shots – that should be doable. But, in regard to the Leia references during the talk, they are gone for two reasons… A) the most obvious is that Leia hasn’t passed yet, so saying she’s gone obviously is wrong, but also B) Han talking about everything she stood for, etc. comes across as Leia being a little too full of herself (considering in this version it’s Leia doing a projection and talking about herself, not Ben not reliving a memory on his own). That dialogue works better in the original scene for the opposite reasons, but not in the way it’s been re-cut. Thanks for the feedback!

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#1346706
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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I’ve sent earlier versions of my “Leia Intervenes” edit over on Hal’s thread, but there doesn’t seem to be much interest in the idea for his film, so I’m posting the “final” version I just finished here in case others may find it useful.

In short, I always felt Leia should have had a larger role in Ben’s turn from the dark side, not just say his name to distract him. This edit re-imagines her role in his redemption. I’ve restructured and re-scored some parts to make the changes mesh together well. Kudos to Cinefy for the inspiration on Ben’s ‘toss the saber’ music. This also includes parts of DominicCobb’s new Rey Vision. Hope you like it…

https://vimeo.com/420145483
fanedit

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#1346483
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Neerb said:

NeverarGreat said:

What if he turns and sees the image of Han, then he drops his saber and the scene continues. Then afterwards he has the Han memory scene.

Now that’s an idea… it wouldn’t interrupt the existing scenes too much, but still have that implication of Leia’s involvement. Combined with Leia’s body disappearing after Han disappears, I think that could maybe work. Of course, if Leia’s disappearance is moved up, that does mean any other scenes with Leia’s body need to still happen before the Han conversation begins.

Broom Kid said:

FWIW: I think moving Leia’s body disappearing to immediately after reaching her son is a decent idea. I’ve never at all liked the idea that Leia effectively dies when her son does, but her corporeal body just lays under a sheet for the next half hour of the movie. It’s such a weird way to “pay homage” to Carrie Fisher and Princess Leia, by using the suggestion of her dead body as not much more than set dressing.

If her body disappears just before she distracts Ben, it removes that sort of distasteful use of the character from the film, AND it makes Maz’s explanation of what’s even happening with her a little more coherent - we literally see it take “all she has left” to do that.

If Leia disappears right after Kylo throws his saber, I’d be fine restoring Rey’s ‘Leia’ reaction because then the sheet dropping later does give the allusion that Leia was still around helping Ben to turn with the Han projection, even though she passed from the physical world earlier. That also solves the problem of having Leia’s body stick around until the end of the movie. I still think it would be interesting to show Han standing there before Ben drops the saber to really sell his surprise. There’s a lot of time of Ben just looking back there. Also, moving up the other Leia body scenes would give Kylo more time to breathe and ponder things before Han shows up.

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#1346477
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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NeverarGreat said:

DarthYcey said:

https://vimeo.com/419974604
fanedit

That’s really nice.

I wish there was a way to have the Han memory happen before the fight in some capacity, as if the fight is really about Ben working through his guilt. His dropping the saber at the end would then be the point of his turn. What if he turns and sees the image of Han, then he drops his saber and the scene continues. Then afterwards he has the Han memory scene.

Just some thoughts.

Yeah, that was my last version, except I used the whole Han convo until the saber dropped, then it proceeds as normal. I like the idea of showing Han there for a second and he drops the saber, but it may seem really awkward getting back to the convo later unless we just wave it off as ‘Well, son, I’m back to talk now’. I don’t know though, it could work. That would certainly sell it more why he’d drop the saber…he’s shocked to see his dad. And for the amount of time he’s looking behind himself, it does give the implication that someone is standing there, not that he’s just staring off looking to see if he can see Leia.

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#1346469
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Neerb said:

Rey’s initial shock at Leia’s death is too important to cut. Her realization that she just inadvertently took advantage of Leia’s death to get a cheap shot in on her son, her tearful little moment with the wounded Kylo. Her decisions to heal Kylo and to go into self-exile both hinge on this moment, because she realizes how dark she just went and that Kylo did in fact still have some good left in him (an idea she mostly abandoned after her failure in TLJ, hence the TLJ callback in this scene with “I did want to take Ben’s hand”).

Keeping Leia alive longer only lessens the impact of her death, and I don’t think it’s worth it just to explain Han’s appearance as a magic trick. If we really want to imply that Leia was directly responsible for Han’s appearance, my recommendation would just be to move the disappearance of Leia’s body to be after Kylo tosses his lightsaber (instead of its original placement after Kylo’s corpse disappears).

Man, there’s just no pleasing you haha j/k. I bet I could still keep Rey’s reaction in there, just cut the ‘Leia’ part. Arguably, she could still have that dark moment realization without Leia dying, and still want to heal Kylo. I don’t think Leia dying in that moment has to happen to make this work. And I did think too about moving up her body fading into the Force. If you think Leia sticking around to conjure up Han takes too long, then it’s definitely too long to wait for the Exogol conclusion for her to join the Force. I don’t think it’s unrealistic that her laying down was actually her just getting into a more comfortable position to begin the Han thing. Again, people may disagree, but Leia saying ‘Ben’ shouldn’t kill her. Force users communicate and sense things like that through the Force all the time without dying. A Luke-esque act like projecting someone across the galaxy is what would realistically kill her. Again, no disrespect meant…appreciate the honest feedback.

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#1346454
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Anakin Starkiller said:

Cinefy said:

I rescored Han Solo’s cameo / Ben Solo’s redemption to have a more Skywalker feel, did this back when the HDR released.

I used the theme from the Phantom Menace when Anakin is freed from Slavery, feels like a really beautiful call back and flows perfectly with this scene, especially being that Ben Solo is the last Skywalker it felt just right, the Saga begins with Anakin being freed to this track and now it ends with Ben Solo being freed from the darkside.

Rescore Test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQt906lt7-U

I’m curious to see how well this blends in with the rest of the scene, as the original had music. Is the dialog on an isolated channel?

Alright, I have to admit the emotional music change here by Cinefy worked much better than I would have thought, and actually inspired me to go back and try one more time. It really does symbolize a parallel back to young Anakin becoming “free”. I still think Leia should have a more active role in Kylo’s turn to Ben, but I think I’ve found a compromise that may work.

In this version, the fight continues unbroken like some of you mentioned didn’t work before, except Rey interacts in real-time with Kylo – she won’t sense Leia’s death yet because it occurs later. I moved up the Palp/Pryde convo with a wipe as Palp immediately senses Leia’s interruption of Kylo killing Rey. Then, a wipe back to Kylo signifying he’s had some time to ponder. Han appears, but it’s a still-alive Leia projecting him. We have the emotional redemption music beginning as Leia passes, Kylo senses, R2 reacts, Rey senses, and finally there’s adequate time passage here for the Falcon to arrive back to the Resistance to also get the news. It finally ends with Rey on Ahch To throwing shit. I did have to lose the group shot around Leia though. I’ve always been sort of indifferent to Maz’s line there anyway, but the bigger issue for me is that I feel like that shot would have been better with our main players grieving her. Unfortunately, there’s no Rey/Poe/Finn/Chewie since they are offworld doing other stuff, so it didn’t bother me losing the shot. I could try to fit that shot in somewhere else though if people really liked it.

Anyway, the arrangement here combines all the emotional reactions from those who knew Leia. I really like now how it goes right from Chewie’s pain to Rey’s sadness/anger. In the film, I took it as Rey being more upset that she failed in her mission, not realizing the wayfinder Kylo destroyed wasn’t the only one (with the second being right under her nose in the ship she stole). Now, it’s not just that emotion that is drawn out here, but also her grief over Leia. To me anyway, this gives even more depth to Kylo’s ship now getting the brunt of her frustrations. Alright, enough talk, here’s the new clip…

https://vimeo.com/419974604
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Movies Remastered said:

Knight of Kalee said:

Are you talking about cutting the lightspeed skipping scene right? Why wouldn’t it work to delete it in your edit?

I’d really like to watch your version of the Mustafar sequence.

The soundtrack from the falcon scene going into a natural history forest extra scene with added forest sounds just doesn’t go at all. Leaving the lightspeed segment gives me the climactic crescendo that fades really well into the peaceful jungle scene.

I’m trying to set up a vimeo account but do you have to pay even for basic account? I thought it was like youtube years back.

A basic account is free, but you have a weekly upload limit of 500MB and a total limit of 5GB.