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#118181
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The Prequels - my personal opinion
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great post damon! i'm a newer member too.

i respect everyone's opinions, and appreciate that everyone has their own view of what is great about star wars, which films are great, etc.

BUT...

i am a little sick of people saying "if you really watched them, you'd like them more," or suggesting that anyone who dislikes the PT on the whole is somehow being ignorant, intolerant, closed-minded, etc.

we're not, i assure you. i know i'm not. i've given these films their chances, and they've failed me. not so much ROTS, but definitely the other two.

so i think if i did try to give them another chance and watch them again, it would probably end with large objects thrown at a perfectly good tv. your mileage varies, which is what makes this forum great--we can all discuss stuff and share ideas without (or at least, with very rarely) descending into the mindless fanboyism of "you're WRONG, no you're WRONG," etc.
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#118179
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George Lucas says that the original versions of SW will probably be released on DVD
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i'm still a bit of a noob so maybe this'll change, but every time I read LucASS, it still makes me smile.

as for the OOT, i don't get why he can't just restore the relevant sections of the OOT and splice them into the clean version of the SSE from the DVD release. (that's a lot of three-letter acronyms!) unless the SSEs have transformed the films to the point where they're not recognizable as the originals...

and personally, i'd be happy if he just put them out without a major restoration. a minor restoration HAS to run much cheaper, or better yet, no restoration at all. or just use the LD source.

him putting them out would be an admission that they exist, which is to me the biggest hurdle here, that he insists on eradicating film history for the sake of his "vision."
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#117909
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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
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here's a small random thought I've had:

on the soundtrack, as we've brought up in another thread (I think ADigitalMan mentioned it), the end credits music closes with this kinda cool, very stately reprise of the music from the throne room in ANH.

i liked it well enough, but what I thought belonged there was some kind of super montage of all the great SW themes--something that takes us back through six films worth of unforgettable music.

it may be impossible to construct something with good flow and segues between themes without actually composing transitions and enlisting a symphony to record the new piece, but maybe audio editors could come up with some kind of "Star Wars megamix" that touches on the great themes, and sees the saga out in style, instead of just repeating a piece of music that is cool enough but has little meaning in the context of the saga, other than being the force theme, which is important i guess, but the throne room really isn't?
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#117698
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Info & Help: looking for... other ld-rips to dvd movies ex. blade runner int cut, songs of the south, frighteners dir cut - and much much more...
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oh, i remember automan, mebe...what a show! ah, to be eight and stupid again.

while we're on non-SW, off-topic preservation, i also have something to throw into the mix...i found an old tape I bought at a con of Batman material from the sixties TV show. old promos, convention footage, etc. it's been years since I watched it; i don't recall it being in super great quality, but I'm pretty sure I haven't seen any of it pop up on any filesharing (to the best of my knowledge).

there's gotta be a DVD worth of stuff on there, if anyone would be interested in doing the magic thing where the VHS becomes a DVD. i'd gladly send it off for transformation if this toots anyone's horn. lemme know.
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#117693
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I haven't watched a SW movie since midnight ROTS
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stampid, i know how you feel...i too abandoned the first two prequels and was surprised at how emotionally involved I became with ROTS. it also helped me hate Lucas less...he stopped being this huge pariah in my mind and became more of a filmmaker who's had a really rough time making a good movie in, oh, fifteen years or so.

it's hard to reconcile the first two prequels with ROTS, because I do dislike them so much, and like the latest one. it feels...weird. i never expected to have any new star wars I could stomach watching.
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#117692
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12+ hour Star Wars Saga Marathon?
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Thanks. I'm certainly in the minority by digging only one of the films. Even on this board.


you'd be surprised...i did the line for ep3 out here in LA for a while and met a guy who felt the same way pretty much that you did, though for different reasons. he was the first person i met who actually thought vader being luke's father was a bad idea. that blew my mind...yet as much as i love the films, i could kinda see where he's coming from.
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#117576
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<strong>The &quot;ADigitalMan Special Editions&quot; DVD Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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the only force march track I can think of is the bit in the first track on the disc, "Star Wars and Revenge of the Sith," and I think it's used in ROTS under Anakin and Obi-Wan's initial approach to Grievous' ship (the sweeping shot that opens the film, after the pan down and the slow approach to the big republic ship whose name i do not know).
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#117579
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12+ hour Star Wars Saga Marathon?
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No. I didn't need to know anything else. Star Wars is a great, complete story.


i figured that was your feeling--i totally respect that. actually, there's not much i don't respect when it comes to SW fans and their personal opinions of the films. i've met so many fans that each have their own private place on the spectrum--from the die-hard saga fans who adore every minute of all six films to those like you who think it went downhill at Empire--and everyone in between.
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#117555
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12+ hour Star Wars Saga Marathon?
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wow--i've never seen anyone who's felt so strongly about empire before. Empire! to me, hands down, the best of the SW films, and one of the best movies EVER.

to an extent, I wonder if any sequel could have satisfied your needs. unfortunately, that's the need of a story--to continue the world and answer questions and all that. there's no way the mystery of Star Wars could live once you continue the story past that first film, because to tell a story, you HAVE to eliminate some mystery. i can understand where you're coming from there, and if I didn't like empire, i'd probably feel the same way. (i kinda feel that way about the matrix films, actually.)

re: han--i think his character in the second film is perfectly set up by the first film. he decides to leave, then has second thoughts because (i think) he starts to feel as though he should get involved with this rebellion and that he can't hide from the oppression of the empire and not do anything about it. and he may have assumed a military role between ANH and ESB, but empire finds him wanting to get out of that role--the only thing that keeps him in the mix is running from the empire, then leia. (now as to why he sticks around after being unfrozen from carbonite in ROTJ...who knows.)

story-wise, I think it is the least polished and least clean of any of the SW films. everything goes very WRONG. that's easy to take for granted now that the movie's 25 years old, but that's always struck me as such a ballsy and fierce move. the bad guys win. luke makes a bad decision on his training and faces vader too soon. han's in carbonite. leia, who has now fallen for him, is left alone. lando betrays them. even threepio is shattered to pieces. i certainly don't see that as "polished" or "clean."

and actually, i think that visual motif of your favorite shot of luke hanging on to the weather vane is echoed throughout--the desolation of hoth, the way the AT-ATs dwarf the rebels, the miniscule millennium falcon against the asteroids and star destroyers. it all underlines that sense of failure, of losing, of being overtaken by events and a staggering, massive Empire.
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#117520
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12+ hour Star Wars Saga Marathon?
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from my own reading adventures, I'll recommend Shatterpoint by Matthew Stover between EpII and EpIII. it's a really neat examination of the cost of the Clone Wars on the Jedi--only essential film character is Mace Windu, but it's a neat book, if a bit over long.

Republic Commando: Hard Target is also terrific--better than shatterpoint--gives you a neat look at the war from the clones' perspective.