And the colors look different too. Look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-qx5aIXfng
From the review of the new release on thedigitalbits.com
"The production history of The Phantom Menace is a complex one. It was shot mostly on 35 mm photochemical film using Arriflex cameras and Hawk C-Series anamorphic lenses (for an intended aspect ratio of 2.39:1), though it was also one of the first features to utilize footage captured digitally in HDCAM as well (at 1080/24p using the Sony HDC-750—the new Panavision lenses this camera required weren’t ready for principle photography, but were available for re-shoots and second unit photography). Post production was done shot by shot, with original camera negative copied to an interpositive and then to internegative. Footage requiring VFX was scanned at 2K, with VFX produced digitally at sub-2K resolution (state-of-the-art at that time), and the finished shots were printed back out to internegative. The HDCAM footage was likewise printed to internegative. All of this film was then physically edited into a final cut negative, from which a properly color-timed interpositive was created (essentially the finished master element, though an early “Digital Intermediate” was made for pioneering exhibition in theaters by Texas Instruments—presumably a 2K scan of the interpositive). For the film’s original DVD release in 2001, that interpositive was scanned in 10-bit 2K by Lowry Digital, resulting in the creation of a 2K Digital Intermediate (complete with digital VFX tweaks and a color grade supervised by Lucas). This source was used again for the 2011 Blu-ray release, though with a bit more Lowry Digital remastering (and still more digital VFX and color timing tweaks).
For The Phantom Meance’s 3D theatrical release—and to protect Disney’s investment following the studio’s purchase of the Star Wars franchise in 2012—the cut negative (with VFX film-outs) was scanned again in 16-bit 4K by Reliance MediaWorks (formerly Lowry Digital). Lucas once again took the opportunity to tweak the VFX and color timing, resulting in the creation of a new 4K Digital Intermediate. This Ultra HD release (and the recent Disney+ version) was mastered from the 4K DI, with additional color grading for high dynamic range (only HDR10 is available on the disc, but Dolby Vision is available on the Digital version)."
The OT seems to have gotten a slightly wider aspect ratio with the D+ version.
Looking at these screenshots it seems to be a case of cropping. The D+ version has less picture at the top and bottom: http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/DYLPLNNX
On this one there seems to be more picture on the sides though:
http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/J1B2FNNU
Intressting.
Hi, anyone else get this error when muxing 4K83 in tsMuxerGUI?
“Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps.”
Anyone know how to solve it?
Yeh you can still see the ROTJ gallery if you follow the link Harmy put out on the facebook page. But I couldn’t find the Star Wars or Empire gallery.
Tried that program. Pretty great.
Could I get a link to that?
The comparrison image galley no longer works.
I believe subtle audio changes were made to the other two films in 1993 but don’t quote me on that. Nothing visual as far as I know was changed with the last two films.
As far as I can tell: Aside from one missig sound effect in Empire, no. Unless you take into account the teathrical mono mix for Empire which had some different content but with Jedi at least I don’t think there were any changes done before 97.
Ah, ok. Thank you.
On the dvd’s and blu-rays the first 6 films have translated crawls.
I’ve only ever seen the movies on dvd and blu-ray so I’m wondering is the films, when shown in theaters in Sweeden, also have the crawl in Sweedish. Did Sweeden also get a re-release after Empire with the subtitle added? What abut the special editon in 97? Was that in theaters?
Woa. Cool!
I noticed the show AMC Visionaries: James Cameron’s Story of Science Fiction in it’s second episode, when showing clips from Star Wars doesn’t seem to use footage from the most recent version of Star Wars. I’m wondering if anyone here has been able to deduce what the video scource was. Was it the GOUT?
Intressting.
I tought all those changes were changes made for the dvd. Where are you getting this information from?
Attack of the Clones was shot digially.
You’re missing the point. The 35mm release print is not the same as the digital release version.
Really? They are different? I mean obviusly I realize 35mm prints would have had to be made. Not every teather had digital projection in 2002 after all but I thought it was exactly the same as the digital version.
Attack of the Clones was shot digially.
Hi, watched Empire revisited today. Very impressed. I’m curious: How did you make the Hoth scenes so much clearer?
Ah ok. I’ll give it a shot.
How do I get acsess to myspleen? I know there’s an invite request tread but are they still handing out invites?
I allready have Empire. I’m looking for ANH.
Is there anywhere I can get these exept usenet?
Ah, ok. Thanks.
There’s a version of the '97 SE version of Episode IV which was done by Harmy… compiled from various sources and it looks very good.
It is available on tehparadox… Start up a free account and do a search for “star wars harmy.” You’ll find a thread called “Harmy’s STAR WARS Trilogy Despecialized Edition - NO DISCUSSIONS/REQUESTS (SEE POST #2).”
There are links there for Harmy’s Despecialized versions of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi… The links (and description) for Harmy’s REspecialized version are under those for ROTJ. What’s pretty cool about this release is that it includes the original 5.1 DTS-HD audio as heard during the theatrical run of the SE’s.
Hope that helps!
Tehparadox is down for me. Or it’s blocked. Does anyone know if there’s any way to acess it?
TK-949 said:
Adywan’s color corrected version of ESB has the original emperor, so technically it’s the '97 SE.
Does Luke scream?
The audio is from a 1997 laserdisc so the audio is 100% '97. The video however is just color corrected '04(aside from the original Emperor) so some of the '04 changes are still present like the shadows on Han’s shoulders.
Actually, scratsh that. I was confusing these with the text only commentaries done for the prequels. I did some researshing and as far as I’m able to tell Pablo only did audio commentaries for episodes IV and V. If I’m wrong pleace let me know but I’m pretty sure that’s the case.
Also I’m not convinced these were realeased in 2004. Pablo talks abut episode III was if it’s allready been released. I’m guessing these came out in 2005.
Should be avalible at the same place as the MKV’s.
