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- #505385
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- Is Part 3 of Anything Ever Good?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/505385/action/topic#505385
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- #505330
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- Help: looking for... The Eraser Definitive Collection - Custom DVD Edition
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/505330/action/topic#505330
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Those were posted in March 2006. IIRC GOUT wasn't even announced until May that year.
So yes, 'custom DVD' had a different meaning then.
The video is pulled down hard -- hasn't been IVTC'ed.
There's some ENORMOUS scans in the DVD-ROM folder might be more interesting than VIDEO_TS itself, in this case.
I never burned any of those trilogy to disc, but I found those RARs stashed away on my laptop's rarely-used Windows partition, just taking up space for the past five years.
Figured I'd repost first, then I can delete them with a clear conscience.
If you need more PARs better ask NOW ;)
I could repost the sequels' NFOs, but I never grabbed any more than that
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- #505113
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- STAR WARS: the alt.binaries.starwars thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/505113/action/topic#505113
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Eraser Ep.IV only
On 2006-03-19 05:19:15 GMT, Eraser said:
Star Wars Episode IV ( 1 of 3, Star Wars Episode V as 2 & Star Wars Episode VI as 3),
The Definitive Collection.
CUSTOM DVD EDITION - A copy of the
THX LaserDisc Program Special Edition of the Trilogy Released in 1993, the so-called
unfinished edition. A supplement for true Star Wars fan's & collectors.
Picture improvement/cleaning and SoundTrack remastering was done for this LD program.
All Bonus material included, witch some not released in any other edition!
Star Wars Episode IV - premiered 1977, playtime approx 02:01:10.
Spoken Language English, no Subtitles included (as on the original LD).
Equipment used:
Pioneer CLD-2850 LaserDisc Player & Hauppage WinTv-PVR-350 Capture card, Pal Version.
(Cinergy 400 Used for Picture Capture, due to picture handling error with WinTv).
Source Standard: NTSC Composite Video, Stereo/Dolby Surround-sound Audio (Use
Surround decoder! the Dolby Digital sound release(s) of the starwars saga (ep 4, 5 & 6)
unfortunately do have a noticeable level of sound distortion, while this versin do not).
Recording Standard: NTSC DVD Standard Play (br: 6400), 720 x 480.
(PAL recording attemp was done, but due to the difference in framerate, the result was
not satisfiyng...)
Mpeg1 Layer2 Audio recording, 48KHz (br: 384, < -6DB peak due to WinTv audio clipping
avoidance).
All chapters in the film is kept as on the original LaserDisc.
This dvd is a NTSC DVD9 DVD-Video format disc, with custom made menus.
There is a folder with additional files located on this dvd, named Extra.
In this folder you will find some interesting files like:
Custom made Cover in Nero6 format, Scanned pictures of one book included
in the LaserDisc edition + a few other files -Enjoy!
-Eraser
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- #504884
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- What PAL/NTSC Laserdisc players would you recommend me?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/504884/action/topic#504884
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If you don't mind me asking, where did you get them? I'd like to find a CLD-S201 service manual. (I'm not recommending anybody buy that model, as per the thread title, just wishin' I had a schematic for mine)Orinoco_Womble said:
I checked the circuit diagrams
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- #504879
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- Info: Yet another restoration... is it <em>REALLY</em> needed?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/504879/action/topic#504879
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^Sure seems like it, I agree.
Anybody remember which Deutsch disc Citizen used?
He said it was a THX set; however I cannot find any German THX one listed at the blam1 website, nor LDDb -- doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Blam says 1130-05 issued in 1993, but do you see any THX logo on the cover? I don't.
What could it mean ???!?!?!!?!!1!?!1!!111one?!
Somebody buy it
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- #501190
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- Info & Offer: Does anybody still need any LD captured?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/501190/action/topic#501190
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Had I that equipment, and a bunch of free time, I wouldn't capture my DC box.
I'd reach for my Special Collection from Japan. Next probably my SWE -- the one pressed by Technidisc in 1993 from the AR-corrected '92 master.
Before the dark times ... before the THX smear...
And if I was still bored after all that, I'd dig up my copy of Telling Lies in America because a 'scope version has never been released in the digital age
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- #499045
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- General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/499045/action/topic#499045
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Blasted Wedge ... WHERE ARE YOU?
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- #499036
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- opinions on film restoration/preservation and how it applies to Star Wars - what do you think should/should not be allowed?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/499036/action/topic#499036
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S_Matt said:
Mono would be a silly waste of valuable disc real estate that could be better employed for the video. You want Star Wars in mono, get a copy on VHS.
I don't think the mono mix is silly. Don't think it's available on VHS either.
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- #497531
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- Yet another preservation, Star Wars Trilogy: Throwback Edition (* unfinshed project *)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/497531/action/topic#497531
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Moth3r said:
Can you give an example of the IVTC errors you are seeing on the GOUT disc? I noticed some flickering on R2D2 in a couple of places, which I think is an IVTC problem, but I've never seen any combing artefacts.
Post 46
141781 thru 141784 are combed in the NTSC ROTJ (also happens to be the beginning of a reel)
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- #497391
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- 2006 SE/GOUT hybrid script project - UPDATE: 05-24-11 see 1st & 2nd post...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/497391/action/topic#497391
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RU.08 said:
althor1138, I'd like to help adapt your script to PAL properly, could you please post some screengrabs with the frame numbers so I can identify how the numbering of the frames lines up with the PAL version? For instance frame 1200 might be frame 1202 in the PAL version and consistently +2 frames, It'd be really helpful to do that.
Yes indeed, I thought it was really helpful when Red5 kindly posted that info here.
That single frame from the end of a reel is cut from NTSC, but included in PAL GOUT. That's the only known difference for SW.
Also in that thread are shown the differing frames from the sequels, again with thanks to Red5.
And see this thread too. No screenshots, but there's frame numbers galore.
Actually, I've been thinking of updating that thread to show the slight NTSC v. PAL variances. I'd appreciate your help!
If you've got PAL rips at hand, please check where the reel changes occur.
Look for the first frame of each reel, note its frame number, and compare against the NTSC numbers I've posted in that thread. Please report any differences you find, however small they might be.
RU.08 said:
The other thing is, the g-force script that I have is probably out of date, but I don't know where in the thread the new one for the PAL discs are, can you/someone please point me to it?
It'll be on the first page of the thread
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- #497121
- Topic
- This Thread Is Currently About...Bingo and/or Wings!!!
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/497121/action/topic#497121
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What were they thinking?
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- #497034
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- This Thread Is Currently About...Bingo and/or Wings!!!
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/497034/action/topic#497034
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- #493682
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- .: LeeThorogood's Original Trilogy Replica Technicolor Project :. (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/493682/action/topic#493682
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ESB also has PGC_2 coming first, so
15 + 179656 + 15 = 179686 That's Encoded# reported by DGIndex on the VOBs directly
12 + 179656 + 12 using Forced Film on the VOBs
or
0 + 179656 + 12 using Forced Film on the M2V from PgcDemux.
Only in the third scenario, the cave scene begins at 92104 just like g-force's trim() command.
I do see your point about default filename. Using PGCDemux the default name might have been VideoFile.m2v & VideoFile.d2v
Nevertheless, the trim() command is the deciding factor IMO.
It isn't always necessary, but in these (rare?) cases where PGC_2 comes first I think I would recommend going the M2V route.
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- #493677
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- .: LeeThorogood's Original Trilogy Replica Technicolor Project :. (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/493677/action/topic#493677
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Chewtobacca said:
174270 is correct because you're using g-force's script, and he used forced film.
Yes 174270 is what you get using Forced Film on the VOB files directly, without using PgcDemux.
However if I'm reading g's script correctly it isn't meant to include PGC_2 first, only PGC_1.
I've drawn that conclusion after checking the frame numbers in g's trim() commands surrounding the 'magic tree' scene in ESB.
So in that case, with the first twelve not included we've come full-circle
Sounds correct from a certain point of view ;)LeeThorogood said:
VirtualDub via AviSynth read the d2v file DGIndex created as 174258 frames
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- #493651
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- .: LeeThorogood's Original Trilogy Replica Technicolor Project :. (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/493651/action/topic#493651
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174276 = 15 + 174246 + 15
That's the number of raw frames encoded on the disc (what you'd get using 'Ignore' option in DGIndex.)
Using 'force film' you get
174270 = 12 + 174246 + 12
So I'll respectfully disagree with Chew, there's non-film bits at both ends.
The first 15/12 comprise PGC_2 which is located at the head of the first VOB.
The last 15/12 are the last cell of PGC_1 (IfoEdit calls it Cell51) at the tail of VTS_03_7.VOB
For those interested in frame counting, be sure to try DGIndex's feature
"Tools --> Parse D2V" and then read the parse.txt file it generates.
The non-film bits at beginning & end can be spotted easily, even by a rookie like myself, because there's no asterisks.
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- #493567
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- .: LeeThorogood's Original Trilogy Replica Technicolor Project :. (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/493567/action/topic#493567
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Ahhh thanks, up until now I've neglected the 'force film' factor.
If you choose 'force film' then PGC_2's 15 frames will be reduced to 12. That's the way 'force film' works--dropping frames as necessary to achieve strict adherence to 23.976 rate.
So I would have expected 12+174261=174273
And you say it's 174270 ?
Now it gets really weird
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- #493562
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- .: LeeThorogood's Original Trilogy Replica Technicolor Project :. (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/493562/action/topic#493562
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Using the VOBs directly would give you PGC_2 first (15 frames) followed by PGC_1 (main feature.) So I would have thought the total frame count would be higher by fifteen. Yet you say it's the same when you use the VOB method? That's very weird indeed.
LeeThorogood said:
Is the small variation in frame count normal when working with NTSC material or have I missed something?
Not sure you've missed anything, but emphatically I say No it's not normal, even for NTSC.
I'm glad you're asking these questions, and not simply accepting it, because it shouldn't be that way.
Hope I can help to figure out the anomally. So far I'm stumped...
Can you try turning on PGCDemux Logfile, and also "Include end time" in CellTimes.txt, then post both files here or somewhere.
This statement befuddles me because I've never seen frame counts listed whenever I run PGCDemux (except in the Logfile, but you had that turned off.)LeeThorogood said:
PgcDemux read the NTSC GOUT DVD of Star Wars as 174262 frames
Where in PGCDemux are you seeing the frame count?
Can you make a snapshot of PGCDemux, where "174262" is displayed on-screen? That might help to give me a sense of context.
Finally if I can be so bold to list what I believe are the correct answers for STAR WARS:
PGC_1 contains 174261 frames.
Both AviSynth and VirtualDub call the first frame 0, so the last frame will be called 174260.
(Other programs might start with 1, as Chewtobacca already mentioned.)
Skipping PGCDemux, and DGIndexing the VOB files directly ought to yield 174276 frames. That's 15 from PGC_2 + PGC_1's 174261.
Again VirtualDub and AviSynth both count from zero, so
last frame of PGC_2 is called 14
first frame of PGC_1 is called 15
last frame of PGC_1 is called 174275
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- #491855
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- Info Wanted: did anyone do Star Wars VHS Rips of the CBS Fox and THX "Heads"?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/491855/action/topic#491855
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Those ones are well preserved like sarlaac's belly ~200 days is nothin'
That's full-screen 'face' box with Maltin interviews
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- #488626
- Topic
- Once upon a time on MySpleen (Now with OPEN REGISTRATION)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/488626/action/topic#488626
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rockin said:
Will there be any old 1997 SE broadcast version stuff hitting myspleen? Wasn't it from there to begin with?
Moth3r said:
There are still 3 seeders on the REIVAX release.
Last summer I did that Womble thing, with Flunk clips replacing the French bits in REIVAX.
Hmmm . . . <chin-scratching GIF>
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- #488529
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- Once upon a time on MySpleen (Now with OPEN REGISTRATION)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/488529/action/topic#488529
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You're welcome. It seems much faster now.walkingdork said:
Thanks for everything you have done. And if you are willing to reseed King Diamond again, I am on it right now, otherwise I can get it somewhere else. Thanks again.
Wouldn't you know it -- I'm upping something else ATM, so now I apologize for keeping you waiting. I'll be back.
ISOMIX ANH is ripped & ready
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- #488218
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- Once upon a time on MySpleen (Now with OPEN REGISTRATION)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/488218/action/topic#488218
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Add these to the 'recently revived' list:
-MakingMagic by FanFiltration
-MeBeJedi - SW Prototype
-Story of Star Wars by MoveAlong
And these 'coulda been a contender'
1) Return of the Ewok
Two active torrents with nearly identical content -- could seed either one
2) ISOMIX trilogy
Now here's the problem with those two: the leechers seem to be overextended.
walkingdork has 241 torrents open at once, while the other leecher has only 93 open.
Meanwhile I twiddle my thumbs while the bytes trickle out of here. Actual upload speed is far below the bandwidth I'd allocated.
Do you suppose there's any corellation there?
Hey leechers if you want these, will you consider allocating more download bandwidth?
You should be downloading faster than I can upload. The other way is no fun for me.
Finally, I tried seeding King Diamond videos but got no takers. That's available on Demonoid too, which I hadn't been aware.
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- #488192
- Topic
- Help: looking for... 1997 SE NTSC capture with bitperfect 5.1 audio
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/488192/action/topic#488192
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Great as they might sound (haven't heard 'em myself), I'm afraid "synced to the broadcast versions" and "bitperfect" are gonna be mutually exclusive.
Once upon a time adywan threatened to upload his rips. Post 18
If it happened I missed it.
Also from the same thread:
adywan said:
My ESB AVCHD has the full unedited 5.1 laserdisc audio
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- #488115
- Topic
- Heavy Metal
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/488115/action/topic#488115
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Connected two days, but no takers?
Wow, I figured somebody would go for it.
Tough crowd I guess.
Rock on
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- #487713
- Topic
- <strong>The "Dr. Gonzo" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/487713/action/topic#487713
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- Post
- #487353
- Topic
- Heavy Metal
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/487353/action/topic#487353
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dark_jedi said:
Mercyful Fate, King Diamond, Destruction, Death, Cro Mags, Exodus, Sepultura, Kreator, now that is Metal.
You should check out the King Diamond videos on MySpleen.
Oh wait--