Darth Lucas

Might as well outline my concept for preserving the reveal in Empire while still providing a story with a beginning, middle, and end, not making Ben sound like a liar, and not making the audience feel like they’re missing information (even though they are).

The idea is that there is a new character named Darth Vader (Name. Not title.). In Episode 1 Vader is a young Jedi apprenticed by Obi-Wan (and I guess Qui-Gon if you really want him there). Feeling insulted by the Jedi for ignoring his talents and potential by pairing him with such a young, inexperienced Jedi like Obi-Wan, he joins the dark side, staging his own death at the beginning of the film, only to reveal himself as the one behind it all toward the end. (If Qui-Gon is there he can be the one to kill him, adding more personal rivalry between he and Obi-Wan.)

Obi-Wan meets Anakin, takes it upon himself to train him as a Jedi, yadeeyada. Eventually, Anakin’s pushing of himself and lust for power turns him to the dark side, teaming up with Darth, his enemy, but Palpatine the puppet master’s plan is to pit them against each other for the more powerful one to be his ultimate apprentice.

Everything leads to a three way duel between Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, and Darth Vader atop a massive volcano. Obi-Wan get tossed aside and topples down the side of the volano. Miraculously he survives and watches in horror from a distance as his greatest enemy and his former best friend duke it out atop the volcano.

Both of their lightsabers get tossed aside. They struggle with each other physically. The volcano trembles as the two let out their anger. They push and pull at each other ferociously until they both topple over, disappearing into the fires of the volcano.

Obi-Wan assumes them both dead and leaves, taking Anakin’s saber as a memento of his fallen friend.

Much later we cut back to the edge of the volcano where a charred hand reaches out from the volcano and grasps Vader’s saber lying in the rubble.

Fast forward to A New Hope. Obi-Wan says: “A young Jedi named Darth Vader who was a pupil of mine until he turned evil helped the empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights.” Check.
“He betrayed and murdered your father” Check.
You may feel like Obi-Wan is withholding some information to spare Luke’s feelings, maybe hoping to tell him the whole story later, but you never get the sense that he is outright lying to Luke.

Fast forward to The Empire Strikes Back: “Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.” You’re thinking ‘he’s going to tell Luke that Anakin turned to the dark side before he died to convince Luke to join him’
Then he drops the bomb “No. I am your father.” Suddenly it makes sense. Anakin is the one who crawled out of the volcano, not Darth. Anakin emerged and took over the mantle of Darth Vader, leaving the last trace of his old identity behind him.

Meh. Paramount has always been a bit more uptight about fan films. Especially GOOD fan films. I feel like fan film quality is in direct correlation to how much the studios care. Haha.
Lucasfilm tends to be much more accepting of the fan film community as a whole and I can’t think of an instance where they pressed any kind of legal charges so long as nobody is making money. We haven’t really been given much of an indicator in these past couple years as to how Disney will handle fan films going forward, but so far they’ve kept relatively quiet which I suppose is a good thing.
I still hold that if somebody were to put the time, effort, and money into it, an entirely fan-made prequel trilogy could be made.

(come to think of it this could kind of be thought of as a rebirth of that early thread of mine)
That being said, once again, everyone feel free to spout off your ideas :p haha

Well when the green channel is misaligned it would have the harsh green lines of fringing, but because of the misalignment, green would be showing through in gradients in places throughout the image where it is supposed to be blending with the other colors, which causes the green cast. You’ll notice you see it most in grey areas (death star walls, imperial uniforms) because that’s where you find the colors channels’ levels being mostly equal to each other, so when the green is misaligned or improperly treated (as I tend to suspect the Tech IB prints were in this case) it shows through alot more visibly. What people need to remember is this is a chemical dye process and little imperfections like channel misalignment and improper treatment of the elements affect the image in different ways than it would if you were working in something digital like photoshop or after effects.

Alright let’s move the discussion here to keep from cluttering the Revisited Ideas thread:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Alternative-Prequel-Ideas/id/48032

Moving the discussion from the Unnoficial Revisited Saga Ideas thread.

This will be a hub to discuss any alternative prequel ideas too extreme for a fan-edit to accomplish.

Feel free to repost any of the ideas you’ve already posted in the Revisited Ideas thread and continue the insightful discussion my friends 😃

Hey guys, this may surprise you but we have an entire forum dedicated to rewrite ideas!

All smart-assness aside, I love these kinds of discussions and I’ll create a thread in the rewrite forum so we all can continue this “Alternative Prequel” discussion without cluttering up the Revisited Ideas thread any more.

Will post a link to that thread once it’s made.

JEDIT: Just realized how douchey I’m coming off here. Sorry guys, I only mean it’s best to move the discussion of ideas which can’t possibly be achieved via mere fanedits, even those as extreme as Ady’s, to more appropriate locations.

The “green tint” is due to misalignment of the color channels. It happens when the red and blue channels are perfectly matched up, but the green channel is slightly misaligned so it doesn’t blend properly with the other colors causing green fringe along the edge of things and in the shadows.

Although to be fair, she does resemble an awful lot my high school French teacher.

Ummm… Am I the only one slightly confused by the random lady with the curly hair and the color chart that shows up for about a second after the credits end?

Fact is he wasn’t doing anything wrong. Get over yourself and move on. There’s no need to obsess over some damn images somebody posted and act like an ass.

Han helped Kylo by not shooting first.

As for the comment that TFA was “lazy”: My dad happens to be friends with the wife of the guy they brought on to create all of the star fields for the movie and I got an opportunity to talk to him at a party this past New Year’s Eve. He was telling me how he would spend hours every day trying to recreate the unique look of the star fields from the original Star Wars, digitally painting each star by hand and trying to make each star field for each shot unique. He said everybody working on the film put in that level of effort, pouring hours into getting every detail of the art direction exactly as it needed to be. It would have been so easy for him to roll out a new star field from photoshop or after effects every couple minutes but that’s not what they wanted on this movie.

If that level of commitment and respect for the work is considered lazy then I must be basically Jabba the Hutt in comparison.

When people request an invite, I go to their profile to see when their account was created and how much they’ve posted.
If they created the account that day and all they’ve posted is that one post asking for an invite, nope, sorry.
The way I see it, the people who deserve invites are the ones who have stuck around here and contributed to some degree to the conversations.

paladinryan said:

Darth Lucas said:

Where do you work and how do I enroll? Fotget my current university, startup company, and general future; that’s where I need to be.

Sorry, Lucas–I don’t teach your special editions (but I am including Revenge of the Sith this semester, cuz Milton).

I was genuinely confused for a second. Sometimes I forget what my username represents haha.

As for ROTS, all the Paradise Lost allegories in the world couldn’t save that pile 😉

TServo2049 said:

with the Engrish subtitles

Trade Federation Viceroy Nute Gunray? Is that you?

Where do you work and how do I enroll? Fotget my current university, startup company, and general future; that’s where I need to be.

Don’t worry about cluttering the thread. I’m totally ok with any discussion related to the project 😃
Especially when I’m short on updates of my own.

If you don’t like them you don’t have to use them. No need to be an ass when the guy was just making an effort to give to the community. Constructive criticism is one thing, being an ass is another thing. Instead of complaining, why not thank him for his effort and then mention how some of the shop work is a little obvious and should be cleaned up?

Although I have to say I wish the star field was the same. Would make my job a lot easier. Haha

towne32 said:

edit: walked away before submitting this and got beaten to the punch. 😃 I know you discussed it in another thread, DarthLucas, but the difference between 81 and later is just the starfield itself, right? Timing is the same?

The star field is the star field from Empire with the position shifted and I believe Tatooine’s moons are in slightly different places. I also think there might be a slight different timing on the crawl itself but I’m not 100% on that.

Maybe it’s been suggested but maybe utilize the piece “Glory to the Empire” from Star Wars Rebels when the clones come in to save the day in AOTC. It’s basically a heroic version of Imperial March.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TouCl6yp13A

Cedric T Sealion said:

Finally, a version of this movie where the colours don’t look mental. Are there any plans to change the colours in later releases? I think they are perfect the way they are.

Because purple skin in Ben’s hut is totally natural right?

One could always just splice the Re-Specialized crawl into Despecialized if all they wanted was “A New Hope” and weren’t going for 1981 accuracy.

Smithers said:

Why doesn’t Qui-Gon disappear once he dies? In the clone wars show it’s explained that Qui-Gon discovered eternal life and appears as a ghost to teach Yoda and Obi-Wan this ability. So wouldn’t you have to discover it while still being alive?

Qui gon NOT disappearing is the only thing that gives indication that you don’t need to disappear to become a force ghost and gives reason as to why anakin doesn’t disappear when he dies.

Smithers said:

Oh well nevermind mirroring ANH then lol, but in terms of pacing, would it work? You wouldn’t specifically have to make anakin destroy watto’s pod but just show him losing, then Qui-Gon could find him getting into a fight over whether or not he cheated.

I think it would work well but I think you would have to show anakin destroying watto’s pod. Cuz later in the film he says “he smashed up my pod last race”
I mean you could just take out that line but still.