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#209613
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Idea & Info: 'RoboCop - The Auxiliary bonus discs' project...
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
where are you downloading The Game from?


I downloaded the torrent file from isohunt.com and am using Azureus. I bet it'd pull faster if I'd gotten it from The Pirate Bay. Should the file be bigger? I'd be willing to snail mail you a dual-layer blank and a single-layer blank in order to just have it quicker. Did you use the CD-case Region 2 Japan anamorphic version of The Game for the project? I remember you saying something about it. As for verification, I'll post the cover image as to which version I think you used.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/15/27/TDV-2584D.jpg

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/15/27/TDV-2584D_2.jpg




Oh, I even have a CD-R of the RoboCop soundtrack by Basil Poledouris. And although I wish the download for The Criterion Collection of RoboCop was it's full dual layer version, I'll be satisfied with the single layered version for now.

I'm in a search of logo's for the set. This one to me looks nice, only if it were in higher resolution. I should ask the Webmaster of the RoboCop Archive if it'd be okay to use this variant and for a higher resolution version.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2770/robocoplogo3uw.png
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#209535
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Idea & Info: 'RoboCop - The Auxiliary bonus discs' project...
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
I'd be MORE than happy to put this together for you.

I love robocop


Yes!

I figure the only biggest difficulty would be finding the necessary materials for some of the other parts in the Auxilliary series though. Might as well be easiest to work on Part I first then work on the next parts when the previous part is finished. Should we organise the documentaries on the disc by production date?

I figure for Prime Directives there's also alot of text based features too along with the docs featured on the French PAL release. Perhaps re-encoding it into NTSC would work. If Nicheflix, or Nicheflix a la carte, has the series it'll be a cake-walk.

Oh, and digitalfreaknyc, I'm finally downloading the discs for The Game: The Criterion Collection. The files total to 9.32GB though for both discs.

I already have some ideas for the logos too. When we do the covers, my name gets to be first mostly because of alphabetic stuff. BUT I'd like out names to be part of the indicia or not very big so it doesn't detract from the visuals of the cover and the menus.

I'm downloading a single layer version of the Criterion Collection DVD for RoboCop using a bit-torrent type deal.
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#209311
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Idea & Info: 'RoboCop - The Auxiliary bonus discs' project...
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Jobel:
I believe there is a PSA from Peter Weller on the VHS for RoboCop 2. As such, it'd be put on The Auxilliary Part II for of course RoboCop 2.

Crazyrabbits:
Those sound great! I'm also a member of the RoboCop Archive messageboad and have also posted about my project there in the "General Discussion" sub-forum. My username on there is The_Flash2019. I figure the easiest, most proficient way going about this first first assembling material for the first film first, the second film second and etcetera.

I figure all materials sourced should be NTSC based or something. I figure since digitalfreaknyc is far more knoweledgable about making DVD's I could probably ask for his assistance. Probably could even get someone to make custom covers for the intended slimpak cases. Why slimpaks, you say? Why, to save shelf space, of course! Hell, may as well even the covers be a spanning one. Then when all four are completed, a cover for a 4 case Alphapak would be nice. Only speculation as this is still very early on and I literally don't have the necessary equipment or the full knowledge as to how to go about doing this. As said, I'm better suited as the project supervisor/producer sort of type for this. I'm going to look on the internet for some suitable pictures. I even have a few in mind already...
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#209148
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Idea & Info: 'RoboCop - The Auxiliary bonus discs' project...
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Originally posted by: klokwerk
I like your idealism. By that I mean to say, I like how you have faith in 3 and Prime Directives having documentaries about them.

Sounds like you've got the right idea now anyway. I just have to ask: did you actually have any documentaries or know of any we could use in this set?

RoboCop 3 had a various amount of production problems and a rushed schedule. Although released in 1993, it was actually finished in 1991. The main cause of Peter Weller's absence was that he lobbied hard to get Naked Lunch to be made and was unable to come back to RoboCop 3 due to scheduling conflicts. He chose Naked Lunch. It's actually my least favorite of the three from the trilogy. But I figured, what the hell, might as well search for documentaries and materials for it.
For Prime Directives, of which Page Fletcher who portrayed RoboCop, felt very un-"Robo"-like. Reason why because Fletcher didn't choose to watch the previous films or the TV series and felt he needed to make Robo his own. The main reason why I'm not planning another disc for the TV series is because it recently got released over in the UK as a multi-disc set.

I have no idea as to where I can find documentaries for this let alone enough for four seperate discs. So I guess this is just the planning stage...
Although I think I did read about a laserdisc containg a featurette about Phill Tippet's work on ED-209. I think it was part of the "VFX" series or something.
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#209089
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Idea & Info: 'RoboCop - The Auxiliary bonus discs' project...
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Yeah. We're not allowed to discuss this. I was already ripped a new one for that.

Btw...I have the Robocop Criterion and the regular version as well.


I was going to make a custom two-disc set using both releases for personal use and then just a flat-out third disc from various sources I could find.
The "RoboCop: The Auxilliary Part I" custom extras disc should be derived from various sources. Basically many various documentaries and behind the scenes which aren't available on either releases. Sort of like an "ALIEN: Appendice" if you will.
I have absolutely no idea how to go about doing this though. I figure it could be a three-part disc series where each focusing on the particular film. For example, Part I would primarily focus on RoboCop, Part II would of course focus on RoboCop 2 and Part III would (albiet unfortunately) focus on RoboCop 3. Maybe even a Part IV for the Prime Directives mini-series. All would be for slimpak cases as they're first released individually and then a lovely 4-disc alphapak final type cover version to house them all.

Maybe I could have someone conjur up a custom cover for my personal project and then another so people can put both releases in the same case? Like a dual amaray where your first disc would be The Criterion Collection DVD and the second would be the MGM Special Edition either from the Trilogy Boxset or the individual release such as the version I own displayed below.

http://www.cdjapan.jp/pictures/l/09/19/GXBS-15895.jpg
Region 2 Japan NTSC

This is all just a big pipe dream though as I don't have the software to do all this but I have the actual blank media to use. What a dilemma...
Maybe people could put together the RoboCop: The Auxilliary set I have in mind? Meaning I could be the project supervisor or something.

So, the project would be developed as followed:
RoboCop: The Auxilliary Part I of IV - RoboCop
RoboCop: The Auxilliary Part II of IV - RoboCop 2
RoboCop: The Auxilliary Part III of IV - RoboCop 3
RoboCop: The Auxilliary Part IV of IV - RoboCop: Prime Directives

Now that I think about it, it very much sounds like the very extensive ALIEN Quadrilogy set (of which I own the 2-disc individual releases of the first three films) put together by the very respected DVD Producer Charlie de Lauzirika. If this fan based project could be as extensive as the bonus materials from the above set, it'd be very sought after.
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#208913
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Idea & Info: 'RoboCop - The Auxiliary bonus discs' project...
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Originally posted by: klokwerk
As much as these sort of projects appeal to me (I usually buy several different DVDs of the films I buy, to get all the extras and best audio/picture), we aren't really allowed to talk about them. I've made several "compilation editions" of films incorporationg all the special features from numerous DVD releases (ie. Underworld, Halloween, Evil Dead, etc) but only in the cases where I own the official DVDs I use to make them (and I keep mine to myself). However, as Moth3r and Jay have pointed out before, taking material from official DVD releases and rereleasing it via P2P, torrents, PiF, etc, is illegal and not tolerated on the boards.

I'm not meaning to have a go at you. And by all means if you ever do this for yourself then great (as long as you own the DVDs), I just don't want to see you get into trouble. Still, if you have any unreleased/unavailable documentaries for Robocop, make a disc of those and let us see it.


This project is meant to be a personal fan compilation of the best materials from both releases with a few added bits. The Auxilliary extras discs are for distribution.

I was going to do the 2-Disc compilation from both release and then a third disc for even more bonus features unavailable on both. Basically all the documentaries and such featured on television and laserdisc for the third disc. And for those who own both the Criterion and current MGM release (I own the Region 2 Japanese NTSC Special Edition), the third disc would be in the same vein as the ALIEN Appendice I release.

I figure I could call the third disc/stand-alone-extras a "RoboCop: The Auxilliary Part I". Probably make it dual layered and in a slimpak...

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#208829
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Idea & Info: 'RoboCop - The Auxiliary bonus discs' project...
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Originally posted by: Jobel
Sounds quite interesting.

I did have the Criterion Robocop but I sold it on Ebay. You know Robocop will be out on Bluray this year?


Yes I do and I'm not going to get into high definition formats until the war is over. I'm most likelt going to adopt the winning format, most likely HD-DVD more due to familiarity, until sometime around 2009 or 2010.

I've read somewhere the full Criterion Collection DVD for RoboCop is available at a torrent site. Dual layered I think.
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#208789
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Idea & Info: 'RoboCop - The Auxiliary bonus discs' project...
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The initial project is meant to be a personal fan compilation of the best materials from both the Criterion Collection DVD and the MGM Special Edition DVD with a few added bits. The Auxilliary extras discs project are meant for distribution.

With alot of copying and pasting from various posts I made including some new bits, here we go:

If the Criterion DVD of RoboCop wasn’t so difficult to find, I’d already own it. I should’ve purchased it when I had the opportunity back in early 2002.
What I’d do, I’d use the best of both worlds and use both the discs from the MGM RoboCop Trilogy (also available individually from Japan as a Special Edition of which I own) and from the Criterion. I’d even make it in the same type of calibre as FOX Japan’s “Ultimate Edition” 2-Disc set releases.

Disc 1-
The film with both commentaries and a complete isolated score. I’d probably use the MGM 1.85:1 Anamorphic transfer if I were to be making this. Use both the 5.1 remix and the original 2.0 Dolby surround mix as the main audio choices. Subtitles would first and foremost be English and alot of others.

Disc 2-
Probably a DVD-9 with all the extras from both releases including other found gems. Would be thorough and quite extensive.

It’s probably be very complicated going about doing this. It should be a worthwhile effort if someone actually did make a worthwhile even more comprehensive release of both RoboCop and RoboCop 2.

And even more…

Concerning the Criterion Collection DVD release Only thing good about the transfer in terms of video is that it’s Paul Verhoven’s director approved 1.66:1 aspect ratio. And I totally agree with you. That’s the main reason why I’d use the MGM 1.85:1 anamorphic transfer from the Special Edition through an NTSC source (don’t want to use PAL as it has a 4% speed-up and annoys the hell outta me) and not the Criterion Collection’s transfer.
For the audio, I’d use the Special Edition again and excise the unnecessary non-original audio language tracks. The commentary of course will stay and from the Criterion disc I’d extract the Dolby Surround 2.0 and the exclusive commentary from it. Then putting in place of the remaining space left-over from extracting the non-English audio tracks a complete isolated score from Basil Poledouris from the soundtrack. Most likely one would need to customise the set-up menu to reflect the customised changes. Hell, even subtitling both commentaries would be a welcome addition. Besides the commentaries, the only other special features on this proposed custom set on disc one would be all the trailers and tv spots.
For disc 2, most likely a DVD-9 (a dual-layered DVD), I’d put on every extra from both releases and even a few more documentaries I could probably get ahold of.

Seems like a difficult project but it seems very worthwhile. And I’ll get even into more detail about it as time passes. This custom fan-made release would be highly touted as one of the most definitive releases for RoboCop on any format. Hopefully the same could be done for RoboCop 2 and perhaps even RoboCop 3.

There’s the possibility of even making this into a 3 Disc “Ultimate Edition” if enough materials were found. I’d buy that for a dollar!

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#207838
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Info Wanted: Akira Criterion - has anyone done a preservation of this?
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Is Greencapt doing anything at all with the ORIGINAL Japanese audio? I'm not a very big fan of dubbing at all so I hope he does a dual release with the actual Japanese language. In my opinion, it'd be more of a truer preservation if he didn't mostly focus on the dubbed version and paid a bit more attention to the aforementioned Japanese audio.
All that aside, I'd much rather own a Japanese audio minus the dubbed version with alot of the extra features. Hell, I've never even listened to the dub, only the original Japanese language version so I've no idea how both the old and the new dub sounds.
Oh, and the manga is loads better mainly because if the movie had kept in alot of things from it, it'd be over 4 hours long probably. I think...
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#207820
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Criterion Collection: Adventures of Baron Munchausen & The Fisher King (Released)
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
"Criterion did release RoboCop and Chasing Amy onto DVD. Although RoboCop is now out of print and Chasing Amy I believe is still in print though."

consider me corrected on these 2 then.

but did they have all the same documentary or special features commentary as the laserdisc?

I still believe there are a great deal of releases not on dvd and some never will be because of obvious rights wrangling in hollywood.


Here is what I could find from the Laserdisc Database concerning the extras for RoboCop:

# Unrated director's cut master in THX, including "excessively violent" shots, cut from the theatrical release to avoid an X rating.
# Screen-specific stereo audio commentary with director Paul Verhoeven, co-writer Ed Neumeier, producer Jon Davison, and Robocop expert Paul Sammon
# Film-to-storyboards comparison
# Extensive still frame supplement chronicling the production of RoboCop

And then here is the back cover for the DVD release for RoboCop:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3808/715515009324o4xk.jpg

If the Criterion DVD of RoboCop wasn't so difficult to find, I'd already own it. I should've purchased it when I had the opportunity back in early 2002.
What I'd do, I'd use the best of both worlds and use both the discs from the MGM RoboCop Trilogy (also available individually from Japan as a Special Edition of which I'm eventually buying) and from the Criterion. I'd even make it in the same type of calibre as FOX Japan's "Ultimate Edition" 2-Disc set releases.

Disc 1-
The film with both commentaries. I'd probably use the MGM 1.85:1 Anamorphic transfer. Use both the 5.1 remix and the original 2.0 Dolby surround mix. Only have English subtitles.

Disc 2-
Probably a DVD-9 with all the extras from both releases.

The last time I owned the Criterion for Chasing Amy I only bought it for $15.99. I figure I should repurchase it.
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#207809
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Criterion Collection: Adventures of Baron Munchausen & The Fisher King (Released)
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
I think there should be a whole thread dedicated to criterion releases not on dvd.

Some that I can think of:

Jason and the argonauts

Akira criterion the one with all the special features.

Ghostbusters

Chasing Amy

Robinson Crusoe on Mars

Robocop

the princess bride

rashomon with alternate english audio track.

Taxi Driver

Raging Bull

2001 a SPACE ODYSSEY



Wait just a damn minute...

Criterion did release RoboCop and Chasing Amy onto DVD. Although RoboCop is now out of print and Chasing Amy I believe is still in print though.
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#207791
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FAN EDIT REQUEST THREAD - Post your dream Fan Edits Here!
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Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221
I was pretty close to doing a fan edit of Bram Stoker's Dracula to work out some of the silly nineties love themes (seriously what was with that pop song during the credits????).


That's sounds reallt interesting. From what I recall, FFC went through dozens of edits of Bram Stoker's Dracula before finalizing the version we now have in theatres.

The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai - This MIGHT be an easy one... Extract the film and audio, then extract all the deleted scenes and re-intigrate them back into the picture. Might as well include the prologue.


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#207717
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Criterion Collection: Adventures of Baron Munchausen & The Fisher King (Released)
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I'm on the hunt for a great low price for the Region 2 Japanese NTSC SuperBit DVD for The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.

I'm going to look on:

www.amazon.co.jp
www.cdjapan.co.jp
www.yesasia.com
www.play-asia.com

And other sites...

I'm not buying The Fisher King YET since it's a 1990's film and I'm working on building on my 1980's/prior decades portion of my collection.
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#207530
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Criterion Collection: Adventures of Baron Munchausen & The Fisher King (Released)
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I'm going to eventually buy the Region 2 Japan NTSC SuperBit of The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2348/sb117746my.jpg

I guess the disc could be re-authored and the commentary could be added. I figure you could relegate the second disc (either a DVD-5 or DVD-9) with the rest of the extras.

I can't think of any suggestions right now for The Fisher King though.
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#207393
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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Originally posted by: Karyudo
Originally posted by: DarkGryphon2048
There could be many other XØ Projects which deals with laserdisc and not particularly with Star Wars. I'll get into more detail in forum #11.


Sounds intriguing... what/where is "forum #11"?


This site but the other projects sub-forum for fan edits.
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#207387
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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Just copying and pasting...

ONLY if it's a DVD-9 and 16:9 though! Only for comaprison reasons for the 2006 Official O-OT DVD release of which I'm assuming will look better than ANYONE'S laserdisc transfers including the XØ Project since LucasFilm has direct access to the actual film elements and believe me I believe wholeheartedly that's what their using.
From my understanding, laserdisc has a different black level compared to DVD. So, from what I can tell, what we've been seeing from the laserdisc preservations is that the contrast has been boosted due to the black levels. Sure, calibration would work perfectly but I'm having more time believing the new 2006 set will be far better than what we've seen since as stated before, they'll be derived from actual film elements instead of an inferior format.
Neil S. Bulk is just spouting b.s. that they're using straight off laserdisc transfers. No, they've been quietly working on the film transfers since they have more time since a film isn't coming out and it won't be as rushed.
I'm going to flat out purchase the 2006 release and I'm cautiously optimistic that it's going to blow all the other laserdisc derived projects out of the water in terms of clarity and opacity. Figure that alot of people could rework their various fan-edits into using the 2006 O-OT DVD's and have seperate "mastered from laserdisc" and a "mastered from DVD" releases...
I can't wait to buy the DVD's come September!

And by the way, Han doesn't shoot first anymore. He's the only one shooting.

end of copying and pasting...

I truly think the XØ Project has been quite well going so far but nothing truly beats a master from actual film archival stuff being remastered as stated above (merely speculation) than doing a laserdisc to DVD transfer no matter the equipment. I bet they've been working on this for quite some time and aren't as rushed as they were on the 2004 DVD's. I'm also figuring the 2004 DVD's in this dual release set for the Trilogy will get a silent clean up and fixing with. Like I already stated above, we'll have the 2006 O-OT DVD's to work with in the future rather than the laserdiscs.

There could be many other XØ Projects which deals with laserdisc and not particularly with Star Wars. I'll get into more detail in forum #11.
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#207375
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Info: The LID Project: Laserdisc is dead.
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Originally posted by: RickWJ324
Originally posted by: Zion
There is one team still working on their laserdisc transfer. Deal with it.


And there are MANY fans who are looking forward to it's completion!! --RickWJ324


ONLY if it's a DVD-9 and 16:9 though! Only for comaprison reasons for the 2006 Official O-OT DVD release of which I'm assuming will look better than ANYONE'S laserdisc transfers including the XØ Project since LucasFilm has direct access to the actual film elements and believe me I believe wholeheartedly that's what their using.
From my understanding, laserdisc has a different black level compared to DVD. So, from what I can tell, what we've been seeing from the laserdisc preservations is that the contrast has been boosted due to the black levels. Sure, calibration would work perfectly but I'm having more time believing the new 2006 set will be far better than what we've seen since as stated before, they'll be derived from actual film elements instead of an inferior format.
Neil S. Bulk is just spouting b.s. that they're using straight off laserdisc transfers. No, they've been quietly working on the film transfers since they have more time since a film isn't coming out and it won't be as rushed.
I'm going to flat out purchase the 2006 release and I'm cautiously optimistic that it's going to blow all the other laserdisc derived projects out of the water in terms of clarity and opacity. Figure that alot of people could rework their various fan-edits into using the 2006 O-OT DVD's and have seperate "mastered from laserdisc" and a "mastered from DVD" releases...
I can't wait to buy the DVD's come September!

And by the way, Han doesn't shoot first anymore. He's the only one shooting.
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#206975
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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Originally posted by: Darth Richard
Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221
I think it's time for some "first time ever on DVD" dvd covers, you agree?


Sounds good. Hopefully LFL will get these overs right but they have a bad dvd cover track record. O well if they(LFL) make shitty covers I'm sure someone here will make nice ones for us to use *cough Coov cough j/k *


LFL actually used the original poster art for the cover for Tucker: The Man and His Dream for the DVD. I guess alot of people forget it's a LFL film though. The DVD is excellent too.
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#206937
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FAN EDIT REQUEST THREAD - Post your dream Fan Edits Here!
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Originally posted by: Boomstick
Originally posted by: DarkGryphon2048
Le Pacte des Loups (Brotherhood of the Wolf): Special Longer Version - Take the 152 minute Director's Cut and take the rest of the deleted scenes and make a longer version in it's Original French Audio with of course English subtitles.

I'm gonna edit this later.


Sweet Jesus, that would rule. Please do!


Believe me, if I knew exactly how to do this, I would.
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#206170
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FAN EDIT REQUEST THREAD - Post your dream Fan Edits Here!
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Le Pacte des Loups (Brotherhood of the Wolf): Special Longer Version - Take the 152 minute Director's Cut and take the rest of the deleted scenes and make a longer version in it's Original French Audio with of course English subtitles.

ALIEN - Custom 136m Version - Use the 117m Theatrical Version and then use all the restored deleted scenes on the second disc of the Collector's Edition (or the fourth disc in the Quadrilogy set because it's the same one) and make a True Director's Cut. Not true in the sense of the word but actually more of a Director's Cut which flows more in the pace of the Theatrical Version.

Edited again.
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#204319
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Idea: a Shawshank Redemption Bonus Disc (* unfinished project *)
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Originally posted by: DarkGryphon2048
So technically this would be a third disc?
This is an absolutely perfect idea especially since I own the Two-Disc Special Edition release. You might as well go dual-layer for this.


essentially, yeah. but i dunno if i'm going to do a dual-layer as they're more expensive. I might just do a 2 disc set and torrent them together.


I have a spindle of dual layered DVD-R's. Perhaps I could snail mail a blank one to you for this project when you complete it.