What a load of old bollocks. I did enjoy a lot of the original show and some of the movies but a lot of the time Star Trek is a bunch of people sitting in a room talking.
I have the 3 'Art of' books. While the talent is most certainly there, I'm not that fussed about the actual designs at all. Particularly the ships. There's nothing as jaw-droppingly original as the Millennium Falcon on display at all...
Bloody hell...'Artistically betrayed'? Don't suppose it matters a great deal as he did both subsequent SW prequels and IJATKOTCS (even as an acronym that's a mouthful!!)
Considering Williams' age I reckon he'll just stick exclusively with Spielberg for the rest of his career...
To be honest I'm not entirely sure where I heard John Williams had 'issues' with the editing of his music on TPM. I have a feeling it may have been on someone's soundtrack blog, where there was a download of the 'expanded' score, and possibly a little blurb about the music underneath...
The DC of Kingdom Of Heaven is amazing. It's a completely different film to the theatrical release...
We all know JWs score for AOTC was severely curtailed but I've also heard Williams was very upset with the resulting cut of TPM...Anyone know any more?
90 Euros in the local vid place...
Gwan' Norn Iron!!
On a similarly jubilant note, my 8 year-old son is off to Wexford (SE Irish county) for the weekend equipped with 'the Han Solo films'...Love it...
I have the 'Ultimate Cut' Watchmen DVD with 'The Black Freighter' edited into the DC. To be honest it's probably too long, really...
Mrebo said:
Jaws over Star Wars? o_O
Yep. I saw Jaws when I was 8 on it's first release...I still think it's virtually a perfect movie.
The BluRay increased in price by £20 on amazon.co.uk over the last few days.
Again, if there is a thread like this that has escaped my notice, please excuse me and lock this down.
Much as I absolutely love the OOT, they wouldn't feature in my top 10 favourite films, which goes like this...
1. Jaws
2. The Thing (1982)
3. Apocalypse Now
4. Lawrence Of Arabia
5. Barry Lyndon
6. Seven Samurai
7. Raiders Of The Lost Ark
8. Zulu
9. SE7EN
10. 2001: A Space Odyssey
Of course, they wouldn't be too far behind...
What about you guys?
I suppose I wouldn't be averse to the 97 SEs being tarted-up. I brought my ex-wife's younger brother to SW in 97 as he'd never seen it in a cinema and we both loved it.
As is the usual refrain though, bring out a HD OOT as well...
Bloody hell, I just had a look on Theforce.net boards...It's worse than I could have imagined...
Whatever people in the SW 'community' may think about the people on here or Save Star Wars or fan editors or whatever, at least they're passionate about something.
Most of the members seem to either a) defend Lucas to the nth degree, regardless of what arguments anyone puts forward or, b) don't give a shit what 'version' is on their DVD shelf at home as long as it has 'Star Wars' printed on the cover.
OK, I admit point a) could be construed as 'passion' but more often than not seems to stem from some sort of blinkered, deluded 'allegiance' to Lucas rather than a personal opinion.
While I'm not surprised in the slightest that the BD set has sold in such vast quantities, I would have hoped more people would have made some sort of stand in favour of waiting for a decent HD version of the OOT.
It's a shame, but there it is...
I miss 'Yub Nub'...
I would get Lucas and Coppola pissed and goad them into a fight.
I checked out the link to his site and the guy is incredibly inconsistent. Some of his stuff looks fantastic. And then there's the likes of the BluRay cover...
Absolutely. If there was to be one utterly iconic character from SW I suppose it would have to be Vader.
The design team on the prequels, while very talented artists in their own right, ultimately suffered from Lucas' input far too much. The only character that comes even close to being 'iconic' from the prequels is Darth Maul, and Lucas wasted him.
I want a Roy Rogers burger. We don't have 'em in Ireland.
There's a lot of people like that on the Empire forums too, who are just blathering on how 'awesome' the BluRays are. I'm convinced they're just trying to justify throwing down another £60 or whatever on yet another SW set...
zombie84 said:
It's hard to believe Katie Lucas chose that, but she chose it out of a lineup so maybe the alternatives were even worse. It's hard to know how much I should be blaming her. :P
Oh dear, the apprentice has been chosen, then...
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Although in a sense, I suppose the "nooo!" makes him seem more like creepy Anakin from the episodes 2 and 3, the whiny one who always wants his way. Maybe that's why some of the gushers like it.
Are there seriously people who think this was a good idea?
msycamore said:
Cuchulainn said:
Obviously. I should have mentioned Jung before the Hildebrandts. Didn't he do the Empire and Jedi posters too?
Yes he did, but not the style a release posters, but ironically the poster Roger Kastel did for Empire was based on the iconic Gone with the Wind poster made by Tom Jung. Kastel also made the iconic poster for Jaws. A dead art form...
I knew Tom Jung did the Empire poster with the big DV with his hand outstretched but I had no idea he had painted the GWTW poster that inspired the other Empire one. That's so cool...
yotsuya said:
All this over one page in the back?
There are 10 other pictures that you aren't even talking about. While I would agree the quality is lacking, the OT cast gets their due. Each film gets an iconic shot. ANH gets that same image (although a painted version). Plus the cover features the Lars Homestead with Anakin and Luke. The location is far more iconic of ANH than any of the PT.
Plus, the two covers for the two trilogies both feature OT characters; Vader and Yoda.
And you don't even mention the image of Anakin and Luke in the middle of the booklet. It reminds me very much of the early art for ANH (see the novel cover). I can't find an online image of that picture, but the rest I found here http://halcyonrealms.com/film/star-wars-the-complete-saga-blu-ray/
Sorry, but I think that artwork is shit.
msycamore said:
Cuchulainn said:
It's mind-boggling that a film series that started out with such beautiful and iconic artwork (McQuarrie's production paintings and the classic Hildebrandt poster art) has degenerated to images that (as someone said elsewhere on the boards) look like they were painted by the same guy who illustrates those religious pamphlets.
Don't forget Tom Jung's classic artwork which was emulated by the Hildebrandt's in a more comic book style (which is seen in your avatar). ;) In the end I don't think this blu-ray set deserve such great artwork, save that for the real movies.
Obviously. I should have mentioned Jung before the Hildebrandts. Didn't he do the Empire and Jedi posters too?