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#284610
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Mysterious Cities Of Gold - PAL Project. * Cancelled * (with lots of info)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/284610/action/topic#284610
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Thanks Zion, I agree with your clarification of it being a custom DVD. and thanks for the comment, coming from you it means alot

So.. to the Fans..
I do have some MCoG audio tracks that I rebuilt that aren't on any released CD anywhere, they are on the reorchestrated CD's but they are just recreated pieces by someone called Boub.
One of my tracks is on the reconstituted CD 'St Elmo's Fire' but that has lots of soundeffects through it.
All mine are soundeffect free and are better quality than the reconstituted CD.

The tracks are:

Previously (52s). this is as long as possible and is used throughout the previously sections of the show. - possibly one of the most wanted Tracks (Make your own Previous sections - guaranted to break the ice at parties!)

Barcelona (1m06s) First track you hear on Episode 1, The actual track loops at the end I've made sure I fade after the loop point.

The Andes(1m14s) Used throughout the Docs in places and on a couple of episodes

The Winged Serpent (2m08s) great track, sinister - used throughout the episodes

St Elmos Fire (1m50s) The track everyone seems to remember most, this one is on the reconstituted CD but mine is sound effect free, better edited and slightly (2s) longer at the end.

The Mystery (18s) short incidental used when a mystery or shock occurs

Morning Breaks (19s) usually played when a morning sunrise scene is played - The episodes do play this in full but with a Wind sound effect behind it, mine is sound effect free.


I was going to put these on the Second Set but now they are just sat there...... Suggestions? If this again falls into the Distribution rule (Zion?), please respect the forum rules.



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#284601
Topic
Mysterious Cities Of Gold - PAL Project. * Cancelled * (with lots of info)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/284601/action/topic#284601
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I would've posted up this yesterday if I wasn't so damn busy.

Sorry everyone, not much else to be said, it is coming out officially now so this makes a preservation release out of the question. I have asked boon and jaiman to end posting /remove links.

I would personally like to add that I dont think 'Custom DVD' is fitting, Zion. - it has had alot of restoration work on it on both Video and Audio. Video has been added and retouched to make the series uncut, and fix the bizarre mistakes - like some episodes missing sections upto 30 seconds or so, strange interlacing issues, the audio is unavailable on any other release in the world, and believe me, it wasn't just a straight rip and drop, sections were missing and had to use other sources everything - every bloody bit - had to be restored, the whole project was a massive jigsaw puzzle.

Aside from that I'm totally with what Zion has said.

Being as nobody will see the thanks list now, here it is

First and foremost; Jay Pennington - without him some of the Audio used would have been ALOT worse. - His knowledge of MCoG is unmeasurably superior to anyone I've ever known.
Tim Skutt for making me want to give MCoG a better preservation.
Jaiman & Boon, for everything
You whos reading this for the kind feedback

OT & FE

And last but not least *Debs* - for the last 3 Years putting up with 'that bloody theme tune again'

I originally only came here to get the word out about MCoG but got involved in the community with some HDTV to DVD stuff and getting some stuff for MM to use in his awesome Dawn of the Dead project. its been great fun.


I dont know what the future holds, nothing planned. soo..

Motion Menu creator, Video Editor, Audio restorer. DVD authorer.
Available for projects...


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#283831
Topic
Mysterious Cities Of Gold - PAL Project. * Cancelled * (with lots of info)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283831/action/topic#283831
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Thanks for the responses everyone

"If only I had had all 39 episodes in virginal quality from those airings, I'd be a GOD to you people! You know how elusive finding perfect copies of this show in English are."

More than a god i'd say! and incredibly elusive to find good copies,

Tims Scutts last set did have some good audio though, it just wasn't used properly and needed restoring properly. I hated the japanese video, colours were totally wrong, way to much diffusion.. the list goes on, Same as the french sets, very yellow, noisey and too much cropping.
Some say that the german release is crap what with bits missing etc, but its colour is much closer to how it should be to any other release out there and less cropped than the french, hence its my base with this restoration.

I just hope you all like what I've done, im a fan, a really big one - but there are many more fans out there that know alot more than me about the show.. im just a tech guy..

"Worst I could expect is for some US company to license the original masters from France and have their go at ADR-ing the thing (this would be up Media Blaster's alley since they're already raking in the dough from the Voltron crowd). I believe the original English dub for MCoG (as well as Ulysses 31) were done up in Canada."

Yup done in canada, im a big ulysses 31 fan too. Don't think MCoG would need to be ADR'ed ..see below..

Being reminded of the stupid US edited release of "Ulysses 31" that the guys over in the UK have to put up with for their DVD releases (DiC can be suck dicks at times).

Not sure I follow you there, the UK version by Contender Entertainment used the Fox UK broadcast masters and afaik they are uncut apart from the intro which was the shorter US version. the longer version is on all 3 french sets, not sure about the australian release.. I know the US Mysteries in Time was cut (alot) on 2 of the 4 episodes.

"And the Canadian masters might've been destroyed?!"


from my research, I believe that its only most of the music masters that got destroyed/missing, im sure there are still episode masters or dupes of masters available.


"There seems to be no sign of an official release, and even if there was, there is no guaranttee it would be as good anyway."


Let's hope we do get a proper official English PAL release (and English NTSC release, for that matter) some day. (I could swear these preservation projects light a fire under their asses, sometimes)."


There is a sign.........

"Meanwhile, CW's work is awesome-good."


Many thanks Jaiman, means alot





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#283568
Topic
Mysterious Cities Of Gold - PAL Project. * Cancelled * (with lots of info)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283568/action/topic#283568
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http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/815/volume1to4mediarelease2of7.jpg

The Mysterious Cities of Gold Part 1, volumes 1 to 4

Features:

Fully remastered from all digital assets

Newly restored colour corrected scenes missing from the german DVD release making this an accurate uncut english spoken european version of the show

Newly restored title sequence video

Newly restored title sequence audio previously unavailable on any release at this quality

Newly restored and totally remastered audio throughout featuring the best available audio so far, fixing every previous fan release audio mistakes and synced to match the original broadcasts

Newly created To Follow sequences from digital assets (missing from german and tim skutts v4 versions)

Fully animated and scored menu system designed to get you in to the mood for MCoG

Menus feature soundtracks that are previously unreleased by any official CD or bootleg

Features at least 1 Easter egg per disc (4 on first disc) including a hidden play options menu on each so you can play just the episodes in sequence without any titles, previous, to follow or any other interuptions or you can play just the documentaries in sequence

Lots of other stuff I can't remember anymore - its been worked on for almost 3 years

Specs:

Dolby Digital 2.0 Audio
5 Episodes per disc, PAL DVD5 format
20 episodes in part 1
Video quality as good as the reference material used
Disc Art

Future - Part 2:

The remaining 19 Episodes, More easter eggs, Multi Language Episode featuring English, German, French and Japanese audio
at least 5 previously unreleased soundtracks in full
Will be authored featuring afF (available for FREE) protection
Disc Art, Sleeve Art
Other stuff maybe.

Part 1 is around very soon, Part 2 later in summer UNLESS MCoG comes out officially of course
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#282355
Topic
Remove Voice
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282355/action/topic#282355
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"Normal human speech is generally between 20-20,000 Hz"

Generally?? lol you'd certainly hope so..unless you got kicked in the b*lls perhaps

Sorry MeBeJedi, just made me giggle thats all.

Maybe MeBeJedi means that human hearings maximum range is 20-20,000 Hz and actual voice bandwidth could vary inbetween this, though id say roughly from bass to soprano between 400 and 4000 Hz is usual for peaks
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#282164
Topic
Idea & Info: star trek the motion picture - preservation
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282164/action/topic#282164
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Thanks Mojo_LA, some of the shots changed were effect free, didn't see much of a performance change between takes either, but then im not a director, heh

Oso, I just thought the font used wasn't very good - it was 'big and chunky'- and is certainly not what was used in the original, was going to change it to a subtitle track ala DC version and have a 'clean' video sort of like a pre optical added print - but no matter.
I dont know where mine came from as it was passed on to me and there is no station bug throughout, it was 1 file about 12 - 13GB if that helps? Basically I used AViSynth to IVTC and resize the stream then ran it through CCE - or Cinemacraft Encoder is its full name.. there are other easier and cheaper encoders such as the prosumer software Procoder by canopus and TMPGenc that are nearly as good - CCE aint cheap. It ran through at 5 passes on a core2duo 6300 machine - took i think about 15 hours for both pal and ntsc each. Thats it basically... there are tutorials aplenty dotted around this site and others about converting not necessarily HD material but the principles are basically the same in most cases.
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#282094
Topic
Idea & Info: star trek the motion picture - preservation
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282094/action/topic#282094
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Just curious Mojo_LA

When I was doing the Theatrical Transfer from HD for these good people, I wanted to paint out the ugly burnt in subs that were already on the HDTV version using the DC version to clone from, however the shots used - when spock is on his planet - in the DC are what looks to be different takes from slightly different angles, any ideas why?

RADiX
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#277910
Topic
Info & Info Wanted: Star Trek Theatrical versions - question
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/277910/action/topic#277910
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The TMP HD print looked to have been struck from an original positive. I found the transfer actually quite soft but would have been a standard print up for its day. I'm not really sure you would benefit too much from the HD print, unless you were viewing it on an HDTV or projector, maybe a little sharper, certainly you would see all the grain and scratches but not much more detail, if any. It certainly compressed well to dvd going by the bit allocation.
I cannot pass on what I had because as soon as that project finished I deleted the files.

RADiX

edit:

actually now that I think about it, there is more detail here and there, such as when spock is on his planet and you get close ups of his ?mothers? scarf/headdress whatever (can you tell I'm not really a big star trek fan yet?) theres certainly more detail in the headdress...
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#269527
Topic
Howard The Duck - special edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/269527/action/topic#269527
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Can't reply to PM because my box is full atm

but to answer your questions,

Audio sync

I use Media Player Classic because by using the + & - keys on your number pad you can resync audio - it just takes a while. I then use dvdlab pro to render a new ac3 without the delay using the audio delay tool. you could also use a tool called delaycut.exe - that does the same thing

alternatively you could use something like hypercube or besweet to dump the ac3 to wav (its only 2ch audio so that helps alot) but you could lose about 3db of volume with besweet and use something like vegas video* to normalise & sync it all up visually, then use besweet or vegas ac3 encoder or dvdlabpro with tmpgenc plugin to convert back to ac3..

*vegas video doesn't like Mpeg2 elementary video streams, use TMPGENC tools to mux video + no audio to get an mpg that vegas will open.

NTSC

In the PAL version I used convertfps=true - you dont actually need this really because the source is PAL ( I cant remember why I used it now - must have been a reason) take it out for NTSC (convertfps does frame blending rather than slowing down frame timings)
The Fps=25 tells directshow the framerate of the source - it needs to know this to playback correctly. Changing it to fps=23.976 doesn't 'break' anything but I prefer to leave it at 25 and use CCE to do the 23.97 itself because its doing the job anyway even when you use avisynth to do it... so..

directshowsource("D:\Home Projects\HTD\howard.the.duck.1920x1080p.dd2.0.ts", fps=25)
Crop(0,0,0,-8)
lanczos4resize(720,480)
ConverttoYUY2

Using CCE to change framerate
or

directshowsource("D:\Home Projects\HTD\howard.the.duck.1920x1080p.dd2.0.ts", fps=23.976)
Crop(0,0,0,-8)
lanczos4resize(720,480)
ConverttoYUY2

CCE receives correct frame rate but does it itself anyway

or even

directshowsource("D:\Home Projects\HTD\howard.the.duck.1920x1080p.dd2.0.ts", fps=25)
Crop(0,0,0,-8)
Assumefps(23.976)
lanczos4resize(720,480)
ConverttoYUY2

CCE receives correct frame rate but does it itself anyway

NTSC Audio

convert the audio (usually if your ac3 is 5.1 but 2.0 is ok too) with besweet - the belight frontend seems quite good - theres a setting to do 25000 to 23976 you do loose about 3db of volume doing this but its not that noticable by most people

or you could pitch the audio in vegas..

You should have enough to go on now, also, doom9 is your friend - as is the avisynth documentation
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#269445
Topic
Howard The Duck - special edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/269445/action/topic#269445
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version 0.90.4.00 (doom9 has it) opens h264, I've used it for my own personal (not being released) HTD conversion. you just wont be able to see anything (will get a error while decoding frame..etc..), however, you can still demux the ac3 fine though.
Drag howard.the.duck.1920x1080p.dd2.0.ts into the filename bit then click on the file it will display 2 PIDs in the Preview screen

0x201(H.264)
0x295(AC-3)
This just shows that it has identified the streams even if it can't play them

Click on the prepare button, goto Presettings/audio tick fill gaps with previous frame (your preference), go to output and have only AC3/DTS Audio ticked in 'stream types to process' then close presettings. make sure in Action - demux is ticked and process it. it will take a while.

Alternatively you could use CCE to dump the ac3 as a WAV or mp2....


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#269400
Topic
Howard The Duck - special edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/269400/action/topic#269400
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directshowsource("D:\Home Projects\HTD\howard.the.duck.1920x1080p.dd2.0.ts", fps=25, convertfps=true)
Crop(0,0,0,-8)
lanczos4resize(720,576)
ConverttoYUY2

as long as you have x264 playback (coreAVC perhaps) this will pipe it into CCE just fine
Rip the ac3 with projectx but make sure you have it replace frames or blank because of the stream error at around 5 minutes in. if not it will knock out your ac3 timing. when its demuxed you will find that you will have to resync the audio by around -3000ms to -4000ms (i forget what now exactly)

NTSC

Change resize and pipe in to CCE at 25fps and use CCE's 23.97 framerate. be sure to turn off pulldown because CCE tries to IVTC (you dont want to do this) or I guess you could try and use assumefps(23.976) in avisynth instead. then run pulldown.exe on the file
pitch PAL audio (the one you resynced) to NTSC and resync
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#262676
Topic
Info & Info Wanted: Star Trek Theatrical versions - question
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/262676/action/topic#262676
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The BBC2 version was cropped, but it was the theatrical version, last time they showed it it was the directors cut. the quality wasn't all that great - not on freeview anyway, bitrate average was about 3mbps. didnt cap it, woke up halfway through it.

PAL version is done. decided against menu's in the end, so basically you got the film anamorphic CCE 5pass in DD5.1 PAL
Im also doing an NTSC version thats encoding now, will be after boxing day when I finish that because im away.

-edit-

Also I didnt put the subs on, they are hardcoded into the video and they are sure ugly too. can't do much about it, the directors cut used different takes from slight different angles so I cant use those to paint them out.
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#262494
Topic
Info & Info Wanted: Star Trek Theatrical versions - question
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/262494/action/topic#262494
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I was intending to do an HD to DVD PAL conversion of star trek the movie theatrical edition in time for christmas as I hinted at on 'another' site a while ago. but junked it in the end thinking there would be not much interest.
Maybe I should do then?.... would only take a day or so to convert it. was thinking no menus just the film. then i'll send it to some of the torrenters/uploaders just after the christmas period.
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#261841
Topic
Mysterious Cities Of Gold - PAL Project. * Cancelled * (with lots of info)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261841/action/topic#261841
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Thanks for the kind words, I hope one day a company does finally release MCoG but until then I will carry on regardless.
Im on DVD 5 of 8 working on the menu's - its taking a long time partly due to work commitments and partly a lack of motivation. I recieved some possible great news today that will hopefully change all that though.
I will get onto DVD 6 through the christmas holidays all things going to plan. then maybe some alterations to the other complete disks depending on what comes out of the news I have.

Was thinking of bringing it out in installments after I've finalled them.. maybe the first 4 DVD's then the later 4 when complete.

Thanks for the offer DrGonzo and thanks for the encouragement everyone.



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#249090
Topic
Approaches to reduce telecine wobble?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249090/action/topic#249090
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Any program with a good tracker would do, combustion, fusion...mokey is a different animal because it doesnt use track points but planes which would maybe help with a few of the more tricky shots.
The problem would be finding track points, i'd see if the left or right border has a non cropped film edge (I bet the master captures do but the dvd would most probably have these borders cropped out) you could then do a 1 pass track throughout the whole movie, I doubt it though.. otherwise your basically stuck with doing each scene ..and with scenes with full movement it would be an horrendous project to attempt i would imagine
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#248911
Topic
Info: Auto-correction from SE colours to GOUT colours (lots of information)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248911/action/topic#248911
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Hi, Welcome aboard

Colour matchhhhhhh, I've tried allsorts of colour matching stuff on videos for a fan project im working on, ended up doing it by eye through vegas though its colour correction isn't 10bit so it looks horrible very quickly also tried using combustions which gave some nice results, your way looks alot easier and more professional. very impressed.