Bobo Jameson

ben_danger said:

Just to clarify, if Vader had pulled the plans out of the Rebel’s hand using the force it would have really mucked up the next movie. Just suspend belief for a moment and go see it - its really really good.

Also one could ask the question why doesn’t Vader just force-choke all the Rebels in the galaxy to death at the same time, then there wouldn’t be a Rebellion, the Empire’s problems finally solved! HEHEHEHE 😄 By the way digitalfreaknyc has been suspended on the Blu-ray.com forum. 😄

digitalfreaknyc said:

Lord Haseo said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Lord Haseo said:

And just like that I’m sad. Thanks for that.

TFA wasn’t perfect but neither is RO. I’d argue the problems with RO are more glaring than TFA. And some, like this, you have to think about a little more.

That type of thinking can enable me to poke a million hopes in the OT as it suffers from that type of writing too. Even if those films didn’t have shit like that in them you’re overthinking it. It’s a chaotic encounter in a narrow, dark hallway. Vader was probably fixated on blast deflection and just trying to kill everyone instead of devoting useful mental resources to think about one Rebel.

So…he was just trying to kill everyone? Not get the plans? And that’s why he stares at the Tantive IV as it takes off? Because he didn’t get to kill more people?

Riiiiiiight.

Hey digitalfreaknyc, go watch the CinemaSins episodes of the original Star Wars trilogy on YouTube.

digitalfreaknyc said:

And, btw, I know EVERYONE is loving the Vader scene (as did I) but I’ll be the guy to throw a huge monkey wrench in the Vader-orgy going on:
With one force pull, he grabbed 5-6 blasters. Couldn’t he have done the exact same thing with the plans that the soldier was holding? One force pull and he’s got them. Done.

Continue…

You posted this crap on the Blu-ray.com forum. You just love to stir up shit don’t ya?

Ronster said:

A very minor tweak is required for 100% Line up of Rogue One and Star Wars (A new Hope)

“Several Transmissions were Beamed aboard this ship, I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you?” Original

“Several Transmissions were Beamed aboard a ship, I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you?” Fixed

Vader could’ve misspoke in A New Hope. Not really that big of a deal.

Hal 9000 said:

This movie was fan service from beginning to end.

Once again I’ll state that I hate that term! I tend to think of them as fun little nods. If this movie isn’t for the fans then who is it meant for?

luckydube56 said:

K2SO’s death scene > Han Solo death scene.

That shouldnt be but it is.

K-2SO’s death scene is actually pretty damn sad. He keeps getting cut to pieces with blaster fire but he keeps hanging in there.

Just got back from seeing Rogue One and it was excellent! 😄 For all the people out there Cassian definitely shoots that one guy in the back at the beginning of the movie. As a matter of fact there’s no question about it, it’s as clear as day. I only have a few minor nitpicks. Darth Vader’s cape was a bit too big, Dr. Evazan’s nose looked too big and Ponda Baba’s head looked a little too big. There also wasn’t enough of Moroff in the film and when we do see him he’s out of focus most of the time. This film does look extremely luscious and I’ll be rewinding and playing back that Darth Vader scene at the end of the movie several times on each home viewing. The way that Vader mows those rebels down at the end was so perfectly done. 😄 He just destroys them all with such elegance and grace. This Star Wars film works so perfectly in showing us that the rebellion isn’t always the good guys on the white horses. Disney sure has some balls in having a Star Wars movie where no one makes it out alive and in bringing Peter Cushing back from the dead and also bringing back a young Carrie Fisher. The cgi on Tarkin was good while Leia’s cgi was perfect. I’m going to have to watch this fine film multiple times of course and I’m sure I’ll love it more with each viewing.

Burdokva said:

Bobo Jameson said:

Someone on here talked about there being mentioning or a reference to the Whills in this movie. Tell us about them?

Indeed, there is! Two of the characters - Chirrut Imwe (the blind monk) and Baze Malbus (the “heavy weapons”) are Guardians of the (temple of the) Whills.

Whether that makes them actual Whills or just Guardians was not stated explicitly, at least I did not catch it. Both were believers in the Force. Chirrut actually appeared to be Force-sensitive but he was definitely not a Jedi. As to the Whills, I think the context implied they were venerating the Force and their temple on Jeddha was a source of knowledge. I would have imagined it being a library and them being librarians/monks but not Jedi proper. Jeddha is also a major source of Kyber crystals.

The Empire early on thrashed the temple and scattered the Whills. The Guardians were described as disgruntled protectors, with “nothing left to protect anymore.”

Chirrut and Baze were both some of the spotlights of the movie - great actor performance, great dialogue and combat skills from both.

Thank you for the explanation. 😃

darthrush said:

Just got back and… VADER!!!

I could have so many more thoughts to give when I’m calmer but right now I just gotta say that the last scene with Vader had me in pure ecstasy. It was just incredible. I don’t give a shit that it was fan service. What’s wrong with Lucasfilm serving me up a scene of Vader in his prime whooping Rebel ass?

More thoughts will come later, but that was hands down one of the best Star Wars scenes for me of all time.

Yeah I’m kind of sick of hearing the term “fan service” too. It’s kind of ironic that the term “fan service” sounds and is dorkier than the fans these anti-fanboy jerks are trying to harpoon.

Alderaan said:

ZkinandBonez said:
I personally use the “fan film” argument as an excuse to see them. I’ll simply enjoy them for what they are, SW fan films made by directors that grew up with the OT. If the film ends up being bad or mediocre, then why should I care? It’s just a silly fan film. And if it’s good, well, the it’s an enjoyable fan film.

I’m just tired of crap. I’ve seen 4 god-awful Star Wars films in a row. I’m tired of paying these assholes any money when they have vandalized and failed to restore the only good films in the series for almost 20 years.

You’re awfully hateful. The Force Awakens wasn’t awful. It was great, just not excellent and I also wouldn’t call Rogue One a “fan film”. You want someone that hates Star Wars to make a Star Wars movie?

Burdokva said:

I am back from a pre-premiere screening (at least in my country), and I am thrilled. To me, this is the best Star Wars movie to be released since 1980. I’ve watched the OT on cinema in the 90s when the Special Editions were released, as I am too young to have seen them during their original runs, and I’ve watched every Episode premiere following.

Edwards has done a fantastic fan service and I am saying that in the most positive way possible. He definitely loves Star Wars and I think has a far better grasp of what it stands for than JJ; as much as the movie is different, tonally and editing, from the Saga movies, I think it gave me everything I could have wanted from a Star Wars movie. In some respects, it’s also a “soft reboot” - it’s a mix between a direct prequel for ANH and what RotJ should (could) have been. But it’s subtle, not at all blatant like TFA was. In fact, it makes TFA feel like a 12-year old’s fanfic. Rogue One has breadth, scope and nuance (not just visually but story wise) where TFA feels cramped and forced.

Tarkin looks amazing. Definitely still in the “uncanny valley” but far, far better than anything similar I’ve seen before. Honestly, if he was used more sparingly, the results would have been better. There’s a particular scene where he’s silent, just observing eerily (reminiscent of ANH) and that’s the exact moment I lost it that it was CGI… he felt like the real Peter Cushing. It still felt odd where there was dialogue and a close-up shot of his face, though. There is another CGI character used very briefly and it works marvelously.

RO gives me some vague hope that Disney can actually deliver decent continuation of the OT, and that JJ’s TFA was just a misstep as they wanted to play “safe” with the new trilogy. The movie had its fair share of problems but overall, it’s great.

If anyone is interested in spoilers, let me know. 😃

Someone on here talked about there being mentioning or a reference to the Whills in this movie. Tell us about them?

Mithrandir said:

Just came out from a screening, and again, somethings are quite disturbing, but it is far far better than Disney Awakens the Force, and personally for me, up there with the OT.

The soundtrack feels somewhat odd, certainly not a JW OST, but the movie closes with classic star wars credit music. And I think that’s my feeling about the movie, it might be different but it indeed earns to be called a Star Wars film, probably the first since the 80s.

Things I liked:

Break out of War!!! One line -this is Admiral Raddus of the Rebel Alliance- made it for me. The previous debate (even if Felicity’s speech was a Disney® moment) was gold. Should the Rebellion risk an open War against the Empire? This was the first battle, the Rebels first open incursion against the mighty Empire, and it was on the verge of just not coming to be.
The high steaks, intelligence assasinations, etc. There is no Death Star says Vader. The Senate doesn’t know anything. There IS a lot of political tension amidst a war film.

Great, excellent prequel material. I liked seeing some Old Clone Wars vehicle at the beginning as well, and Coruscant was just criteriously used as a memory of a long forgotten past…

Tarkin. Great, great and promising technology. I agree the results are a little off, but I put it all on Guy Henry’s acting. You can Mocap his face and get it replace by Cushing, but he just isn’t Peter Cushing, nor has his gestures. This is what I think was the reason behind the uncanny valley feeling I got sometimes during the movie. For instance, they got the mouth part to be quite accurate. Eye movement is even correct, but eyebrows seldom get a vertical movement, which is a key feature when someone is surprised/tense. Now is that a fault on the thecnology or is it just an actor perhaps playing it light perhaps because he knows he is to be replaced?

In the end…OT era. Boy how I missed this. I can’t help not giving a damn about The First Order and Kiloren or Battledroids or Mace Windu. This IS the classic Star Wars Era. All the designs and schemes of the OT prove to be so timeless I wouldn’t mind if they just got stuck doing films set in this timeframe.

Things I didn’t like:

Well, the soundtrack: Both Imperial themes from the OT weren’t used enough. ANH’s wasn’t even used, and Rebel Fanfare was in a Yppieeee Disney version, not militaristic enough.

ILM/Technology: Yes, used universe and whatever they want to sell to E-Entertainment and SDCC, but there’s no point in putting half the budget in 3D modelling entire catalogues of model pieces only to use them in OT ships. What I mean is, they got Star Destroyers and the Death Star quite right [just speaking of the models, the lighting felt off, and very Star-Trek to me] but the new designs weren’t digitally built with such model pieces, so the movie ends up having on purpose low-detailed model-like Star Destroyers but classic CGI full detailed U Wings, Rebel Cruisers, Scarif Building or Krennic’s Shuttle. Perhaps I’m asking too much, but it should have all looked as those old and loved 80s models.

About the lighting of the space scenes, well I might be a nitpicker, but it’s just that it didn’t match OT’s more uniform and plain light, instead there’s a super-accurate Gravity-like approach of lighting.

And, the last thing I didn’t like is…Vader. I think Edwards cinematography didn’t help him at all. Vader is there to be filmed from below, and he just keeps putting the camera at the height of his eyes, which renders an angle not so familiar of his mask, and certainly not imposing at all. Combine it with the fact that JEJ didn’t get the tone quite right, and also the fact that well, he doesn’t quite have anything to do in the movie other than fan service and you’ll have a strange presence in the film. (which on the other hand, I welcome because what is Star Wars without Darth Vader?)

The last shot of Vader standing there in open space even looked fan-film like.

When did fun little nods become “fan service”? I friggin’ hate that new term! I’m a lover of nostalgia, it’s excellent and charming. People out there quit giving dorky ass names to things whilst trying to harpoon the fanbase!

Alderaan said:

More:

You’re left wanting both more and less. There are too many characters, too much tactical and technical explanation, too much pseudo-political prattle. And at the same time, there isn’t quite enough of the filial dynamic between Galen and Jyn, and not enough weight given to the ethical and strategic problems of rebellion. When might ends justify means? What kind of sacrifice is required in the service of a righteous cause?

Popular art — “Star Wars” included — has often proved itself capable of exploring these kinds of questions with clarity, vigor and even a measure of nuance. But “Rogue One” has no such ambitions, no will to persuade the audience of anything other than the continued strength of the brand. It doesn’t so much preach to the choir as propagandize to the captives, telling us that we’re free spirits and partners on the journey. The only force at work here is the force of habit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/movies/star-wars-rogue-one-review.html?_r=0

Yet another stuffy ass article bashing Rogue One! Both the new yorker and the new york times are trying to out-upper crust each other over Star Wars, these clowns need to take a break.

DominicCobb said:

TV’s Frink said:

Hey look, he reviewed Rogue One!

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/rogue-one-reviewed-is-it-time-to-abandon-the-star-wars-franchise?mbid=social_twitter

“ROGUE ONE REVIEWED: IS IT TIME TO ABANDON THE STAR WARS FRANCHISE?”

“THE NEW YORKER REVIEWED: IS IT TIME TO ABANDON RICHARD BRODY?”

I tried to read richard brody’s review of Rogue One but couldn’t. He is just so full of himself he has crap oozing out of every opening in his body. He comes across as a stuffy prick but he loves Attack Of The Clones and Revenge Of The Sith. What a clown.

Ronster said:

There’s a good reason this did not end up in the film!!!

😃

Can you elaborate on that?

‘Rogue One: A Star Wars Story “Tonight”’:-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-VfLrvUTlM - a 30 second advert on the official Star Wars youtube channel

Ronster said:

SilverWook said:

I imagine someone is already planning a fan edit making RO and Star Wars into one movie. 😉

Yeah I think Disney will do that TBH.

I would not be surprised at special event screenings of the 2 films with the Gap Bridged by that Luke Binocular Shot.

It’s the Perfect Transition Shot to Make the 2 films join up. And it’s pretty easy to do…

So now I am wondering before even seeing the film what an amazing Blu-Ray this could be there must be so many stories to tell… Looking Back at all the Rumors about Bobba Fett also as that was obviously the Teaser that they made during this film production…But Wires got crossed or did they?

There must be tonnes of Material they have left for this film!!! I doubt we would see the other version but perhaps bit’s of it.

There is a Graphic Novel Comic coming that will explain a larger more detailed version of the Story with more plot threads (Some not filmed) apparently.

I think Edrio is now either called Benthic or his twin is called Benthic… Confusing or what?

There better be tons of deleted scenes on the Rogue One Blu-ray when we get it! Along with special effects and creature effects featurettes and a concept art gallery plus a featurette about all of the weapons from the movie! It would be super cool if the Blu-ray packaging itself looked like the container which held the Death Star plans. 😃

ZkinandBonez said:

Ronster said:

Zkinandbonez is there any chance you could roughly tell us what scenes are not in the film from the trailers?

I have heard that the Tie Fighter on the Gantry is Gone all the running with the plan’s are gone. But nobody has really talked about how much is gone?

I am just curious how much from the trailers was either from prior to reshoot / Deleted Scenes or simply Marketing…

I go on Friday to see it. I don’t want to know so much what is in it but what we have seen that is not…

I just re-watched the sizzle reel and was surprised that the shot of Jyn and Cassian running on the beech with the plans were not in the film. Neither were the TIE rising up to view on the gantry.
The sizzle reel also has Jyn talking to a bald Saw, which is not in the film. I’m guessing this has to do with the re-shoots. Saw is only seen bald in the flashback opening scene. In all other scenes he has hair. Also, like I mentioned in my post, a lot of Saw’s lines from the trailers were completely gone.

Moroff was also never seen on Scarif, as the BTS footage and toys suggested. Bistan likewise only appeared very briefly. Pao got some decent screen-time, but he was hardly an important character.
The sizzle reel shot of Tudyk running with the Rebel soldiers on Scarif is also inconsistent with the final film. K-2SO is on Scarif, but he never runs on the beech while under fire.

There’s also a lot of smaller moments that’s missing; Jyn giving the fruit to the child on Jedha, rebels soldiers captured by Imperials, etc. It seem that they shot a lot of stuff on the Jedha City set, but chose to cut much of it out.

There might have been more, but this is all I can remember right now.

Is Moroff seen at all in Rogue One? And what about Edrio Two Tubes?

You have to buy the complete saga on Blu-ray in order to get all of the special features including all of the deleted scenes from every film. If you just buy the prequel trilogy by itself or the original trilogy by itself on Blu-ray you won’t get any special features.

Oh alright. That’s a good documentary.

Did any deleted scenes from the original trilogy get released on any of the dvd versions or is it just Blu-ray?

How many GB are the despecialized editions?

I believe it was harmy. How big are the files of the movies? Are they in GB?

Can we get the despecialized editions on Blu-ray discs or is it just a download? This guy on youtube showed off a copy of the despecialized editions that he received on Blu-ray.