Asteroid-Man

Hi-Res of these please:

Although it was a pain in the ass to fish through all the VIDEO_TS files from the cd again, I used DVD Decrypter and got the AC3 files and using BeSweet I got the 6 channels. Editing will resume tomorrow night.

For some reason I can't get the AAC out of the IFO for the deleted scenes. This is what PGCDemux gives me in the log: [General]
Total Number of PGCs   in Titles=1
Total Number of PGCs   in  Menus=0
Total Number of VobIDs in Titles=3
Total Number of VobIDs in  Menus=0
Total Number of Cells  in Titles=3
Total Number of Cells  in  Menus=0
Demuxing   Mode=by PGC
Demuxing Domain=Titles
Total Number of Frames=3470
Selected PGC=1
Number of Cells in Selected PGC=3
Selected VOBID=None
Number of Cells in Selected VOB=None
[Demux]
Number of Video Packs=4
Number of Audio Packs=0
Number of Subs  Packs=0
Number of Nav   Packs=1
Number of Pad   Packs=0
Number of Unkn  Packs=0
[Audio Streams]
Audio_1=None
Audio_2=None
Audio_3=None
Audio_4=None
Audio_5=None
Audio_6=None
Audio_7=None
Audio_8=None
[Subs Streams]
Subs_01=None
Subs_02=None
Subs_03=None
Subs_04=None
Subs_05=None
Subs_06=None
Subs_07=None
Subs_08=None
Subs_09=None
Subs_10=None
Subs_11=None
Subs_12=None
Subs_13=None
Subs_14=None
Subs_15=None
Subs_16=None
Subs_17=None
Subs_18=None
Subs_19=None
Subs_20=None
Subs_21=None
Subs_22=None
Subs_23=None
Subs_24=None
Subs_25=None
Subs_26=None
Subs_27=None
Subs_28=None
Subs_29=None
Subs_30=None
Subs_31=None
Subs_32=None

And then this is what I get for celltimes: 120
3455

I'm not getting an AAC file... Anyone know of any other programs that can demux it to an AAC?

A lot of credit goes to the Star Wars: Reborn team. By the way the update fixed it.

I fixed that. New problem, I was converting the ripped Deleted Scenes and I got this (AutoGK)

"A field order transition was detected. You may need to use the Fix D2V tool to repair the stream. Refer to the DGIndex Users Manual for details."

I'm gonna try updated it and see if that works.

I hit a problem, the audio doesn't come out as 5.1 surround. I put in the tracks individually and set them to different speakers but I'm only getting 2.1. I think it might have to do something with grouping. How do I ungroup?

Oh alright, I see what you mean. I'll see what happened. I think when I rendered it, the WMV was 29.97. In the actual project window though it doesn't do that.

RoccondilRinon said:

Asteroid-Man said:

Oh yeah that's in Arial Bold and I'm keeping that. I want that to be bland because that's not the highlight of the Logo. Thanks for your edit of the credits. There's also another one that opens to "Present" scenes (ANH) also in the first post in Italic.

I'm not objecting to bland. Arial is not merely bland, it is ugly. I beg you, use Helvetica. It's just as plain, but it's not ugly. As you can see, Arial did call my attention to itself. You might not be able to see much difference, but to someone who knows a lot about design and especially typography, it is all the difference in the world.

Okay, the second crawl needs a bit of work. The way I see it, what's wrong with using the original (or most of it) word for word? At a minimum, there are two typos that need seeing to: its, not it's; and ensure, not unsure.

 Haha wow, I made a lot of mistakes with those titles! I'll see if I still have the originally un-rendered logo, but if I don't it'll have to stay Arial.

satanika said:

It looks very promising. A very nice atmosphere you've created.

A few niggles:

When your A-man logo zooms on screen it doesn't line completely up with the static version and there's a jump when that appears.

No offense meant, but I really didn't like that 'ave maria' bit. Felt a bit pretentious to me, and I don't like the religious connotations. But maybe it's just me lol :) As I said, no offense meant.

Could just be the clip, but in mplayer it plays slightly out of sync.

Again, possibly just the clip, but it seems your video is not (properly) ivtc'ed, or there is some other interlace issue? Most noticeable right after the interior shot when the building passes on the left and the pan at the landing pad. It looks jerky.

I noticed it didn't line up but I was using Particle Illusions for the logo and It wouldn't line up completely for some reason. It was the best I could do. Sorry if it's long but I wanted to make sure to get my name out there at the same time and at the scale I'm going for. I didn't intend for Ave Maria to be a religious thing, I'm not even christian. I just really appreciate the music and the voice and thought it was a nice and subtle way to come out of all the exploding asteroids.

And regarding the jerky video it could be two things:

1. I only rendered that clip in WMV so it's not 100% quality and it's also only in 2.1 audio.

2. Perhaps it's your video card?

I did notice the shaky video on YouTube but the WMV isn't too noticeable. Again, I didn't render that clip in 100%. In Vegas it looks fine so no worries. ;)

wwdarth said:

Hmmm.  Interesting concept.  Techically speaking, the opening logo was a little long, and the dialogue is drowned out by the "new" music.   Thematically speaking...no Star Wars music?  I understand the effort, to consolidate the story into an epic, but really...removing the main theme?  It's at a point where some fan edits are simply to modernize, reimagine and remove what makes Star Wars...Star Wars.  Battlestar Galactica (the new one) was an awesome show, with a completely different atmosphere then Lucas' saga.  Unless we pick up cameras and reshoot everything again, it's going to remain different.  I don't want to crush anyone's creativity, but removing the trademark stuff like music just jumped out at me:) What will you do with the swing across the chasm?  Good luck with the rest.

There will still be Star Wars music but again, you must realize I'm going for a completely new approach. I know many "Die Hard OT" fans will be let down but this isn't Classic Star Wars, it's a reimagination. If you want something more true Ady has his Revisions of the saga. If you saw what info had released before, those clips were edited very differently aswell and had a lot of new music and even new and missing scenes. I've received complaints from others regarding the absence of the cral and the main theme but as I said before, it's like a reinterpretation. For example, Kamino and the Asteroid chase is being removed completely.

RoccondilRinon said:

Asteroid-Man said:

RoccondilRinon said:

Two major comments. I like the style you're going for, but there are two things I have to say.

1. The font you use in your logo. Arial? Kill it. Anywhere you can use Arial, Helvetica does a better job. If you don't have it, I do.

2. The wording of the opening slides needs work; it reads quite clumsily. If you like, I can give them a slight rewrite to show you what I mean.

The font is not Arial. It's Star Jedi. Unless you mean for "A-Man Productions". That's Zekton. I'm keeping those fonts, I like them and think they fit the new tone I'm aiming for.

The word "PRODUCTIONS" is in Arial, or something that resembles it and is equally ugly. The other fonts are fine.

My take on the opening crawl:

Turmoil had engulfed the Galactic Senate. Several thousand solar systems, led by the mysterious Count Dooku, had declared their intentions to leave the Old Republic.

The Jedi Knights, guardians of peace and justice in the Galaxy, were becoming overwhelmed. The Senate proposed creating a Grand Army of the Republic to assist them. Senator Amidala was returning to the Senate to vote on this critical issue....

The most important changes are the spelling "led", not "lead", and the "who were meant to", which doesn't fit the epic feel of the piece. The rest is more my own personal take, but I hope it's useful.

Oh yeah that's in Arial Bold and I'm keeping that. I want that to be bland because that's not the highlight of the Logo. Thanks for your edit of the credits. There's also another one that opens to "Present" scenes (ANH) also in the first post in Italic.

DarthBo said:

Asteroid-Man said:

InfoDroid said:

The only other thing I'd say is that you have a little music bleed-through from the original track which (as I've found) is unavoidable unless you scrap the soundtrack completely and create your own soundtrack with your own effects from the bottom-up.

I thought I had isolated the music bleed. That's odd, are you sure it's not just the music I put in? If you could tell me at which point I can try and isolate it some more.

I noticed it as well, it's very obvious at 1:52-54

I really like the new music, keep it up!

 

 Oh I know what you're talking about. That's apart of the music I put in. It has a lot of eerie background music. Check out the song, I posted the name above.

InfoDroid said:

Good job, Asteroid-Man!  I love your logo...LOVE the music...I like the direction you're going with the crawl.  It feels a lot like Gladiator (which I love) and works perfectly with the new music.  The mood you've created is great.

The typos that others have pointed out should be corrected, of course.  And ditch the Star Wars logo you have.  It's weird.  Go here and download this font and install it: http://www.abstractfonts.com/font/10476 

Shift + S gives you a perfect Star Wars logo.  :)

The only other thing I'd say is that you have a little music bleed-through from the original track which (as I've found) is unavoidable unless you scrap the soundtrack completely and create your own soundtrack with your own effects from the bottom-up.  Which I'm sure you're not going to want to do.  But, other than that, I'd say great start!  Thanks for posting the clip!  It helps to see what kind of quality to expect.  Keep it up!

--ID

 

Thanks Info! I'm glad to hear I have your approval! I was aiming for a Gladiator approach with the opening titles.

Thanks for the link. I just installed it. Sadly though I won't be able to get much more done for a while. Regardless folks, don't forget I'm aiming for December 25th! (Last Friday of the Year and Christmas) So I have time, but I'm aiming for Summer so then I can get to the DVD.

I thought I had isolated the music bleed. That's odd, are you sure it's not just the music I put in? If you could tell me at which point I can try and isolate it some more. Thanks for the feedback info. I was actually gonna ask that if you have msn or skype if we could do a voice chat discussing this edit? PM me.

RoccondilRinon said:

Two major comments. I like the style you're going for, but there are two things I have to say.

1. The font you use in your logo. Arial? Kill it. Anywhere you can use Arial, Helvetica does a better job. If you don't have it, I do.

2. The wording of the opening slides needs work; it reads quite clumsily. If you like, I can give them a slight rewrite to show you what I mean.

The font is not Arial. It's Star Jedi. Unless you mean for "A-Man Productions". That's Zekton. I'm keeping those fonts, I like them and think they fit the new tone I'm aiming for.

ChainsawAsh said:

It looks really good, however the text you use feels like long, run-on sentences.  It just needs some commas:

Turmoil had engulfed the Galactic Senate, with several star systems having declared their intentions to leave the Republic through a separatist movement led by the mysterious Count Dooku.

Senator Amidala returned to the Senate to vote on the critical issue of creating a Grand Army for the Republic to assist the overwhelmed Jedi, who were meant to maintain peace and order in the galaxy.

[EDIT: It seems I've been beaten to the above note - but I'll keep this here anyway]

I also noticed that your text said "lead by the mysterious Count Dooku," when it should be "led."

And if I'd never seen a Star Wars movie, I'd have no idea who the hell Senator Amidala was - is there a way you could add something of a brief explanation, such as "Senator Amidala, former Queen of the peaceful planet of Naboo, returned..."

Other than that, it's good.  I love the music, and really like the look of the text.  A nice break from the standard opening crawl.

I am iffy on the logo, however - I don't like how the "T" and "A" connect.  I'd suggest using one of the 70s logos:

It's different, but still recognizably Star Wars.

If people wanna give a go at the opening titles, it's on the first page. I didn't realize the A and the T were connected, I can fix that. I want to keep the original Star Wars logo guys. And I think Senator Amidala is fine. Remember that the Prologue will be included for those who don't know anything about Star Wars. Plus not knowing who a character is in the first 10 seconds is no big deal. Remember that not all films are like Star Wars where you know everything when the film starts. I think the Queen bit is really unecessary.

Ripplin said:

Lookin' good so far, A-M. And it's neat to hear music that was never in Star Wars in Star Wars. :) I sort of agree about the opening text; not so much what it says, but it has that sort of run-on sentence feel, y'know? At any rate, keep it up!

Thanks Ripplin, again if anyone would like to submit other opening titles, please do so. The writing is all in the first post. It's the first four sentences in Italic.

Not very hard, just a pain in the ass.

46fleetline said:

got it, whats the difference besides the opening description and attack of the clones beginning? same as org dvd? maybe i'm lost?

My own logo, different music, edited in new title style, and I begin the film with AOTC with new music. It's just the first 2:30 minutes, don't expect something too epic. Haha

46fleetline said:

Asteroid-Man said:

Here's a YouTube link for those of you who can't figure out how MegaUpload works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFhyHkccGcc

 

 says vid unavailable on your tube. but i got your other one to work.

 

It's still processing.

EDIT: It's done processing

vaderios said:

From where is the music when the starship enters the coruscant?

I had an issue with VLC player tho.

The image looks a bit sped up.

IMO try to minimize the text moves and effects.

Otherwise cant wait to see further progress :)

-Angel

The music is "Aereon Fortells" from the Soundtrack for "The Chronicles of Riddick" I'm only using unrecognizable music so no main theme music from movies.

Odd that it looks sped up, it looks fine on my PC and my Xbox.

I wanted to get the text size changing and fading to make it look not so still and bland. I'm just adding the little bit of text I mention in the first post for ANH and then that's pretty much all the text.

But does it look like a good way to start off the film?

Here's a YouTube link for those of you who can't figure out how MegaUpload works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFhyHkccGcc

Yub Nub was terrible IMO! The celebrations were one of the good things to come from the special edition alterations.

I can also speak French.

That was very impressive! The only thing that bothered me was how brown Yoda looked...

Thank you sir! Is it split screen?

Which one? There's two!

Has ady begun adding new emotions to Yoda's face?

Woohoo! I got around it! No need to re-convert! :) Anyways guys I'm going out I have a class.

I found it haha. It ripped every menu sequence and went through to rip every bit of video it could. Ahahaha, thus switching between different languages in the film. It ripped about 6 hours of video ahahaha. Anyways, I think I can work around it but I'm not sure. I'll get to work on editing it and I'll have it re-convert during the night.