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Arnie.d

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#243150
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Are the PAL GOUT DVDs upscaled from the NTSC masters?
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Just got my PAL discs. This is not the same as the PAL THX french LDs and look NTSC upscaled. I'm not sure if the audio is pitch corrected. There seem to be halos though, so I think no matter how lossless you would capture from LD you won't get rid of them because they probably are on the mastertape already (or they did something wrong with the encoding settings for the dvd).
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#242504
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Secret CIA prisons
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@ Starkiller and C3PX

I now all that...

Now I agree with Darth Chaltab. Do you remeber the reactions with the "funny" pictures of the profet Muhammed in danish newspapers??? And you still think it is a good idea to burry them with/next to pigs to get some respect and scare them? You'll probably start world war 3.
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#242222
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Secret CIA prisons
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For the last time, I'm not sensitive. It's not that I'm sorry for the terrorist that's being tortured. There are other reasons why I think you shouldn't do it. One is you don't want to lower yourself to their standard. You should treat the prisoners the way you would want to be treated if you were a prisoner. The second thing is the US lied to it's allies, sneaking prisoners through Europe and all. The dutch government send soldiers to Afghanistan with the insurance of the US there were no secret prisons and transports in/through Europe and p.o.w. captured by dutch soldiers and handed over to the US would get a fair trial.
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#241871
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Secret CIA prisons
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Again, you're assuming that actual torture took place. From what I've heard, the CIA-run prisons and Guantanmo Bay have adequate facilities and are not mistreating the prisoners.
Well there's no way to check, which makes it suspicious. Why can't people from the red cross visit? What are they hiding? It's far from normal what's going on there. Why can't these people be held in the U.S. itself and get a fair trial? Clearly the world is not allowed to know what's going on there, and I think that's for one reason only: things happen there that are way out of line.

If there is anything that can be classified as actual torture, then no, I don't approve. But until then, mere rough treatment or unpleasant questioning techniques are not enough for me to object.
(Torture to me would be them actively inflicting bodily harm on the prisoners. Putting them under a hot lamp or depriving them of water for a few hours doesn't qualify in my mind. I'm not sure what the allegations of torture are saying has actually taken place, as everytime I hear it it is always vauge.)

I don't think we really have a difference of opinion. But I only think you can treat someone like you described if he is convicted in a fair trial.

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#241847
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Secret CIA prisons
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Originally posted by: C3PX
I don't know if you have ever actually lived in America, but they have far too many rights. So many it is too the point of harming the American society. If you can afford a good enough lawyer, and if you can get people on your side, you CAN get away with murder. You can get away with anything. If they have somebody that can give them some good information, that persons rights get in the way. Hypothetically the CIA could have a known terrorist in their hands, one who has information that could save the lives of a good number of people, but because of his rights there is no way to get it out of him. Of course they do things in secret, the average Joe can't stand the thought of violence outside of the context of video games, TV and movies. Violence is sometimes a necessary evil, it always has been, now we are just living in an overly sensitive age.
It is something very different. It isn't even comparible. It isn't the American justice system they are trying to spread, and even if it is, this doesn't even add up. I promise you a "secret prison" in America and a "secret prison" in Iraq, Iran, Afganistan, and so on, are very different things. The Americans don't just throw somebody into their secret prisons because somebody disagreed with the President. It is not quite as menacing as you seem to think it is, but more menacing than the Americans or Eurpeans can handle.

I've never been in America.
So what you're saying is, an american has to many rights, he can even get away with murder. Now, when a foreigner is captured abroad he doesn't even see a lawyer. It's like, haha american justice system doesn't apply to you. Double standards?
I wouldn't consider myself overly sensitive.
It is not quite as menacing as I think it is? Hmmmm, how do you know how menacing it really is then?

EDIT: I always hear things that come down to this: "when american lives can be saved it is okay to torture these terrorists"
I'm sure you can save a lot of american lives when you would torture american criminals, but then suddenly it is not okay to torture.