AntcuFaalb

moviefreakedmind said:

Perhaps, because at that point they had made the jump to digital.

The D-1 tapes are digital. :o)

moviefreakedmind said:

By the way, I've always interpreted Lucas' lie that the 1993 tape was the best available source as meaning that it was the only source that needed ZERO clean up. Even the best preserved IP would have needed some work put into it before releasing it. That's just my take though

Assuming that they didn't want to go back to film, the 1993 D-1s might have been all they had available at the time.

I know for certain that the D-1 tapes used for the JSC LD release were already in private hands by 2006.

SilverWook said:

Happened again today.

Yep. I noticed it as well.

timdiggerm said:

I live in Gaithersburg, MD!

Oh yeah, btw, I moved.

Congratulations!

How close were you to the plane crash? I get a knot in my stomach everytime I think about that story. :-/

TV's Frink said:

I flunked out of medical school.  Sorry.

BS. Dr. Frink lives!

darklordoftech said:

unamochilla2 said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

AntcuFaalb said:

Harmy said:

Revisionism is becoming a complete norm - I've just been watching the Hobbit TDoS EE BD extras and they said that in the DVD and BD release of the first Hobbit, they re-did some shots of Smaug in the prologue to match the TDoS version of him.

I agree that revisionism is unfortunately becoming commonplace, but FWIW I usually don't mind when the creator(s) of a work revise it in some minor way only a short time post-release. (Yes, this means I don't mind the '81 crawl.)

I also don't mind such changes/fixes when it's to correct unintended errors a year after release (And when we'd barely notice the change).

They tried to show as little of Smaug as possible in the prologue but they hadn't finished designing him by that point. They eventually went for no front legs in DOS but the AUJ Smaug has front legs. So why not remove them in the EE. Better than keeping the error, or going with a consistent design for Smaug that they didn't like.

Now going back 10, 20, 30 years later and changing things that didn't need changing is another kettle of fish (However, I actually would welcome FOTR Gollum being redone by Andy Serkis, so call me a massive hypocrite if you like LOL).

In a similar way, I wouldn't mind a stunning new transfer of the OT that corrected a few flaws Adywan style but stayed true to the original print in spirit. Having the original untouched version as well would of course be preferrable.

I wouldn't be surprised if Disney did that considering they have tweaked and altered some of their own films (particularly the animated films), though usually minor and unnoticeable.

All of Disney's alterations are either results of branching or in response to a claim that something is offensive/sexual/copyright-infringing, etc. Never has a non-branching "original version" had updated special effects.

I'm not sure what you mean by branching, but many of Disney's classics (e.g., Sleeping Beauty) were digitally reanimated in preparation for a BD release.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Recommended-Editions-of-Disney-Animated-and-Partially-Animated-Features/topic/15617/

I live in Columbia, MD. Post here if you live in MD too!

We might be able to do some sort of group activity if there are enough of us.

Why can't Frink live in MD too? :o(

PDB said:

If anyone is near Maryland, USA

Columbia (Howard County) here!

Stinky-Dinkins said:

AntcuFaalb said:

Stinky-Dinkins said:

I did assume Sony devices wouldn't support it because of the Microsoft/NTFS association though. The most reasonable thing for everyone to do is buy an Oppo.

My Sony BDP-S790 supports NTFS.

But can it support a family?

Not in this economy bitch!

Yes, it can. It supports the BDP-S3100 in my basement and the BDP-S5100 in my bedroom. It supports the entire Sony 2013 lineup dammit!

Harmy said:

Revisionism is becoming a complete norm - I've just been watching the Hobbit TDoS EE BD extras and they said that in the DVD and BD release of the first Hobbit, they re-did some shots of Smaug in the prologue to match the TDoS version of him.

I agree that revisionism is unfortunately becoming commonplace, but FWIW I usually don't mind when the creator(s) of a work revise it in some minor way only a short time post-release. (Yes, this means I don't mind the '81 crawl.)

Stinky-Dinkins said:

I did assume Sony devices wouldn't support it because of the Microsoft/NTFS association though. The most reasonable thing for everyone to do is buy an Oppo.

My Sony BDP-S790 supports NTFS.

TV's Frink said:

Stop bullying the newbie!

The lurker, you mean?

RU.08 said:

I don't think disney is interested in releasing the pre-SE's. Just like they don't care about releasing theatrical versions of their own films.

I don't know about that. They definitely seem interested in winning back "old fans" with a lot of the stuff they're doing for VII.

bkev said:

I've been here over 7 years. I'm allowed to have a high post count!

I know. I'm just messing with you, bkev. :o)

Windexed said:

This is the biggest conundrum for me when it comes to the idea of releasing an OUT on blu-ray. Everyone has a different opinion of what it should be, and that's just in the die-hard  fan sector. Add that to the casual fan and or viewer, along with the people at Disney. In each if these sectors, you have different levels of interest when it comes to the details (matte lines, colors, sound mix, ect)  in each version as well as differing knowledge of what details encompass a specific version of OUT. Basically what I'm saying is there is no consensus, which is a potential problem.

There's no consensus, but there's a very simple solution: scan an IP, grade to a good release print, fix annoying temporal anomalies (e.g., flicker), dirt/scratch clean, encode, and release.

I don't see how anyone can argue against a "this is the original, as it was" release.

If some fans want improved SPFX, then they can do it on their own with this kind of release; on the other hand, if some fans want an accurate representation of the original SPFX, then only this kind of release satisfies that desire.

An as-unfucked-with-as-possible OOT release benefits everyone.

yoda-sama said:

I just stopped reading the above, I suggest everyone do the same.

I don't.

I appreciate that Alderaan took the time to address every reply point-by-point with a reasoned, coherent, and otherwise concise argument for his position.

I don't agree with everything he wrote, but at least he didn't post several insanity-driven walls of text with nonsense arguments and tons of ellipses. There's too much of that on the WWW lately and I think it's refreshing to see posts like his rather than the aforementioned rubbish.

davidgnin said:

What is the difference between versions from 77, 85 and 93?

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-sound-mixes/post/628663/#TopicPost628663

I prefer the mono mix.

RU.08 said:

Why do people even bother downloading the AVCHD version if they don't know how to burn it?

Lower file sizes are a priority for some people, I guess.

I'm sure there are at least a few of us willing to donate to the cause.

Alderaan said:

They just want the OOT version looking like the official BR does now.

So they want amateurishly-bad color grading and DNR'd-to-hell PQ. Interesting.

Alderaan said:

Tobar said:

Alderaan said:

 Most people don't want the official BR. They also don't want the OOT looking like it did in '77-83.

 Considering most people I've come across who are casual fans of Star Wars still hold onto their VHS copies, I'm gonna take that statement with a grain of salt.

 

I have my VHS copies too, but that's only because something better hasn't been released in a newer format.

Laserdisc? '06 Bonus (GOUT) DVDs?

chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

LENS FLARE DOESN'T COUNT AS AN ABOMINATIONSABER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you just being a troll or what?

Get a grip. Seriously.

No, DE is just kidding around.

Laserschwert said:

Also: "Empire of Dreams" is just an upscale with fixed German subtitles, so the DVD version is clearly better.

Damn.

TV's Frink said:

TELL THAT TO DAYV PLEASE :P

Where the hell did DAYV go anyway?