Angel

There is a difference asking for a screencap and for the edit to be done...

Screencap im afraid wouldn't be possible and right after ady posted a whole clip for us :)

-Angel

well as you know better than me,ady the details are wrong in the matte..

lights pylons and other stuff has to be the same :)

also the roundish shape well is optional :D

-Angel

The perspectives are ok :) Its the shape of the building that makes that look awkward.

I was sure it could cause some weird feelings..

If you see this from architecture pov the building makes no sense at all :P

Remember im from an other school from ady..

Besides ady already confirmed that this error is fixed already.. :)

However, you've made me notice something subtle that's missing that I would like to see added if possible, which I'll cover as well when I get the chance.  :)

awwwwwwwww :(

-Angel

Dont start Greek convs here..

Im gonna get you :D

Btw guys continue all that useful crap to general star wars discussion forum

-Angel

Voila!

-Angel

Damn i missed that video of yours SSWR :D

I loved the dialogue you cutted there :D

I agree with octorox that anapimp should not talk after he chokes padme but go straight to kill obi whiner.

Cant wait to see part 2 :D

-Angel

Perhaps windows added too, as shown behind Leia inside right before they escape with the falcon)

Not actually. If you can see in the shots not all the wall have windows. also the shot when chewie fires the stormies you can clearly see the non window walls :D

I'd say tone down the shade half way between what you have there on the building and the original would sell it.

Well as you saw my reference was the close ups. so the walls had to be so white..

The shadows that may cause this look "videogameish" was an issue really.

In the shot that the falcon lands we have hard shadows from the sun but in the close ups we have soft ones..

Either way the platform matte needs to be redone :D

Its funny because in the background buildings SE and not we dont see other platforms but instead the three platforms we see, are in close ups only(and one SE open up).(millenium falcon, slave 1 and vader's arrival)

I dont know if that building has them all or its like a mini docking bay just for the shake of something id like to see other platforms in the distance..

Plus it seems the area that slave and MF is landed is identical from architecture pov

Also also when the team tries to stop boba fett when cheie shoots at the ship leia blinks for a sec. anything to be done there?

-Angel

A question..

Is the hangar that kirk and bones leaving in JJ's movie the same location with the one that you referring 005?

Much more industrial and less dreamy..

Also the middle pic you posted has some shadow issues.. or the right building is meant to be floating..

-Angel

Burdokva said:

looking through the mockup pictures. :)

Pity that my old links are dead..

Check this http://swremixed.deviantart.com/

-Angel

Considering ady fixed the bad colored matte here is my try :)

Giving it a more dynamic look and now it is round!

Details and all match the live action close ups as well the walls are white and not orange..Still the floor has to be white but..whatever :P

And yes i left the backdrop intact because i was lazy to make a morning one :P

-Angel

Well

I run the comparison in photoshop :D

I like that some colors actually burned on the falcon giving the retro look..

Ady just a thought, considering revisiting your previous ideas.

Have in mind that the building that our heroes land is roundish.. or at least its round from the one side? Im not suggesting alter the design, just give the indication that its round :)

Nice props you got there :D

-Angel

well the falcon isnt cause any trouble to me about the color.. in fact looks good compare the dvds..

Im more concerned abou the TIEs i saw in the AVCHD that are more or less gray rather orange into the sunset illumination..

-Angel

Well actually the cloud car stays in fact untouched considering the brightness when passing the sun..

It just the sun bleeds a bit but the illusion works well as ady knows best :D

-Angel

The point is that the extension is a bit cheap...

With copy pastes and bad perspectives..

Plus the backdrop with the bridge has to be overexposed because the camera is set to indoors exposure as well..

In the dvd image was meant to be more accurate.. as you can see in the bridge section is way to contrasty..

Also also as you can see its daylight.. but the sun casts some low hard shadows when it supposed to be up in the sky..

Triple also: In both versions the shuttle casts a shadow ON the shadow areas on the wall.. so that needs fixing :D

Lets FF chose if this going well according with his tastes :)

-Angel

PS: Anyone knows where i can find the shuttle in some 3d format?

Rogue Leader said:

Well I'm not too worried about actual dimension concerning the Death Star in ROTJ:R. =D However, if you consider that the Executor is only 8km long... a 900km diameter Death Star would be rather interesting to size in comparison to distance from the battle station and get a great looking battle with out DS2 taking up the entire back drop... =P

My educated guess would be that the iconic barrel laser scene is 1 of the 8 rooms (9 on DS2) just before each super laser element converge around the focusing dish. =) There's also a Death Star Level in Jedi Outcast for free for alls that has a simple barrel room as well. I think there's some leeway as to configuration of this room.

As for the Emperor thrown room on the dish... Technically it makes sense considering there's a huge shaft that leads down to the reactor and super laser leads to the hyper matter reactor... Either that or it's on the Northern most pole where the original exhaust port was located...  Instead of proton torps, use a Sith Lord. ;)

 

 

Damn.. i thought that the SSD was 12 km..

Thanks for the explain Ming:D Now i assume i can clear my mind on this and work on a matte i want to achieve grander results :D

No no Outcast had this lever messed up.. That.. that doesnt count :P

Well im happy you like the throne in the dish concept..Still i d like to see ways making this possible :D (check my mockups that include dish areas into exterior backgrounds)

-Angel

Rogue Leader said:

(I mean it takes over 2 decades for the first DS to be fully operational, and then to build something more than 4x bigger takes less than 3 years? wtf...? 160km makes a lil more sense than 900km due to the logistics of it all I'd think...)

 

Also on DS2 there are 9 beams as the middle of the dish also produces a beam that converges on the focal point before firing (the orginal has 8 beams actually that converge supposedly but in the movie you can only see 7). As for the exact location of the beams/tubes aka superlaser elements... Each super laser element draws directly from the hypermatter reactor prior to firing. The 64 tubes are there on the original Death Star because apparently there are 8 tubes focusing into 1 of 8 converging rooms... Then from these 8 rooms the beam is channeled into the super laser element that converge again to create the planet cracking super laser. Thus your total of 64. =D

Check timestamp 6:40 as to where the location of the Emperor's throne room is on the first Death Star. As for the throne room local on DS2... it's totally ambiguous but if it's like the first Death Star it maybe located around the super laser dish area.

Well Ady said that this fact will be eliminated on the R saga..

Well im really glad about the 64 factor.. So you are saying the iconic death star barrel scene is actually one of the 8?

So its actually will be more interesting have a similar shot but have the laser come to our face instead of going away like ANH..

Even i found the idea of the throne room is in the dish or near it.. we concluded that this could cause uber perspective problems.. OR the tower pops up in different angle from the round dish and then all being solved with a much more interesting background ;)

-Angel

Ok..

Be gentle..

A wip matte for the hangar

The original lightning was way off.. as well many elements were random placed in the space.. now the pylons have a geometry and are not placed here and there..

-Angel

I remember when ady mention that fixed yoda changes places i liked now the proof of it :D

Cant wait what can be replace the missing shot as ady mentioned :D

Good to see Impfighter is back to flip shots with dagobah this time(finally buddy)

Re: to darker falcon here is my proposal of inspiration:

Change the exposure like i said while the camera focuses on two different lighted objects..

sort of.. to get the idea..

-Angel

Im really interested to know from EU or not where the firing tube of the death star located..

Is supposed to be One?

One from the seven?

Despite the fact that the scale is wrong (as we saw previously in one of the oh_riginal's awesome video mockups) im really concerned how these shots have any meaning to the movie..

Αcording to TFU it gives a better explanation of how the beams are arranged.(see.. EU again)

According to juno's schematics: "There are seven other convergence arrays. The firing tube that the apprentice was in the death star mission was one for the sixty four. All being directed into a single massive beam."

Well considering Bingo's idea of the ANH's recycled shot should be something more like a grander(from the front bottom angle), i m thinking some ways to cheat with the physical model and make some parts more visible an grander.

Talking about scales with savmagoett about Death Stars, he stated that the DS 2 is the same as the first. Taking the idea and only that the DSII is 900km big it gives more chances and room for better mattes and locations..

The dish in the 900km death star is so big that can have death star one sit in it. Only that fact and theory begs for a shot of holyness and epicness.

Still i want confirmation from you guys how can this work..

-Angel

More to Chill mode i can say XD

-Angel

Its wip as ady said..

The last time he commented the static shot in Facebook the already elements of the image were final..

I assume this will have some  minor fixes and elements to be done

-Angel

Well like i said i am a total noob about Star Trek..

Johnny pointed me the trek site that had HD snapshots..

My first reaction to the matte shots was: Oh my.. Is this for real? are they look so painted in the movie?

So considering that it might be a challenge for me..

But id like to know how radical FF will be in this edit..

-Angel

I'm just curious to your motivation.

Continuity..

In tatooine we got a clear state that this planet has two suns as establishing shot with luke...

In Bespin we dont.. Assumtions and only leading to debates, so get rid the multiple suns..

Tatooine is unique to its kind why bespin has to follow?

-Angel

One idea that came to me prompted by Angel

I dont recall but thanks XD

One of the reasons the PT seems so hollow is it doesn't have that much of a back story of it's own to call upon.

Well said sir!

You remind the Hellboy 2 and the robot army as well. it can work..

Plus take this awesome excibition of how a PT vader could have been :)

Angel, want to tackle a few more?

No worries.. I still stydying the concepts and the paintings trying to find good places to alter moods and colors.

Thank Zod they are using unused concepts to CW :D

On an other note.. The men who stare at goats have some great lines from Ewan about Jedi warriors ^_^ it might be useful somehow!

-Angel

True..

Still you can alter some of the PT dictionary to match with the OT.

And all that kind of stuff...

-Angel