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#757414
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Ask the member of the Latin Rite of the Roman Catholic Church AKA Interrogate the Catholic ;)
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Post Praetorian said:

Possessed said:

Post Praetorian said:

Possessed said:

What do you think of this article, more specifically the subject matter of it than the article itself?  Not trying to be challenging or mocking, I'm just really curious as to how you would explain it?  This isn't very detailed, but it was the best article I could find quickly enough.  It didn't mention that Horus was also resurrected and ascended to the heavens after three days of being dead, but I have seen other places that indicated this.  Not saying the story of Jesus was plagiarized from an egyptian tale that predates it by thousands of years, because I don't have to.

On a similar note, the story of Noah and the ark (even down to the detail of a dove signifying dry land) also appears thousands of years before Judaism, and the story of Moses, with the same basic idea of the same story with different names (although the story of moses the earlier versions had somewhat similar names)

If a being of supernatural, yet eternal, intentions might exist, is it not possible that his message may be consistent in its elements, yet stressed somewhat differently to disparate peoples?

To clarify, is it not possible that God might merely enjoy recounting the same tales?

 Actually, that's exactly what I believe.  I personally don't believe that the story of Jesus is untrue, I just believe it's a retelling of a different story with changed names, and with details altered to fit the desired culture or audience.  I was not saying that this makes the story of Jesus untrue, I think it's true, it just may not have been "Jesus of Nazareth".

However, I find Ric's points about finding similarities between two things very weak.


Sure you can find similarities in anything, but let's look at these similarities:

*Both born of a virgin

*Both had stars signifying their birth
*Both teachers at age 12.  SPECIFICALLY age 12.

*Both "baptized" at age 30, specifically.
*Both tempted by the evil force, on a mountain.

* Both crucified, then ascended to heaven.

Certainly, there is more to investigate for sure...

Those are pretty damn specific, and I don't think you can find those similarities between two random people.


Like I said, I still think the story is true, I just believe the story of Jesus and the story of Horus are merely retellings of the same story.

 Fair enough...

 This discussion reminds me of one of my favorite Scriptural quotations:

"This is magnificent--and it is true! It never happened, yet it is still true. What magic art is this?"

And another:

"Only the magic of pure thought, my lord."

The third quote is left as an exercise for the readers.

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#757412
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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DuracellEnergizer said:

I still hate myself for having lost/tossed out all the art I made prior to 2004. Sure, I traced too damn much back then, but there was a lot of creativity in them just the same -- creativity I haven't been able to recapture since.

What was once lost may yet be found. After all, they say one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Also, are you sure you have the year right?

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#757012
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All Things Star Trek
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doubleofive said:

Robert Myer Burnett has pretty much said that CBS isn't very willing to do it because not enough people bought TNG-R. They also didn't do anything to promote it recently and priced the sets way out of most people's price range.

But horrendously overpriced Star Trek DVD and Blu-Ray sets are standard Paramount policy! Why change now?!

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#756825
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The Movies You Would Like To See Made (Not SW)
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If we get a new Dune movie, I hope to high heaven it goes to a studio and a marketing department who get the movie, and who want it to succeed--and know how to go about their business.

Otherwise, it risks being another John Carter.

If it isn't marketed rightly, I fear that the uninitiated might take one look at a Dune film trailer and say, "Man, what a total Star Wars ripoff."

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#756818
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The Semi-Random Random Pictures and Thoughts Thread [NSFW]
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"I think you should leave the Ring behind, Bilbo. Is that so hard?"

"Well, no... and yes."

--

"And it is also said, 'Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes.'"

--

"Always in motion is the future."

--

"It's like poetry, they rhyme."

--

"History may not repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

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"You think in such three-dimensional terms. How small you've become."

--

"We once revered a great inventor, because he opened the door to unchanging eternity. But YOU opened the passageway back into true life."

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#756813
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The Semi-Random Random Pictures and Thoughts Thread [NSFW]
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For those who like a bit of order in their Chaos.

Fair warning: if you expect this thread to be work-safe... it's not for you.

Enough smarm already. Let's put the FUN in FUNerals!

"YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"

"You cannot pass," he said. The orcs stood still, and a dead silence fell. "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass."

"You will hear for all eternity the cries of those you have abandoned, Bobbin Threadbare. You will always know that you have left them under my rule!"

"The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun."

"Make it new."

"I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favor to men of skill; but time and chance happens to them all."

"I shall be at Aqaba. That is written--in here."

"I am the Doctor, and I name you the BONELESS!"

'"Estarriol," he said, "my name is Ged."'

"Your pious meddling has foiled my dream of an eternal empire, bound together under One Rule... MINE!”

"You can't go home again."

"But we can come back, can't we?"

"You and any others who wish to come."

"Who feareth the point of my spear shall never pass through the fire!"

"The Lensman novel was left unfinished; there was to have been at least a seventh volume. As always, Doc had worked it out in great detail but never (so far as I know) wrote it down ... because it was unpublishable -- then. But he told me the ending, orally and in private.

"I shan't repeat it; it is not my story. Possibly somewhere there is a manuscript -- I hope so! All I will say is that the ending develops by inescapable logic from clues in Children of the Lens.

"So work it out for yourselves."

"Holger Danske, whom the old French chronicles know as Ogier le Danois, mounted into the saddle. And this was the prince of Denmark who in his cradle was given strength and luck and love by such of Faerie as wish men well. He it was who came to serve Carl the Great and rose to be among the finest of his knights, the defender of Christendie and mankind. He it was who smote Carahue of Mauretania in battle, and became his friend, and wandered far with him. He it was who Morgan le Fay held dear; and when he grew old, she bore him to Avalon and gave him back his youth. There he dwelt until the paynim again menaced France, a hundred years later, and thence he sallied forth to conquer them anew. Then in the hour of his triumph he was carried away from mortal men."

"With bony hands I hold my partner.

On soulless feet we cross the floor.

The music stops as if to answer

An empty knocking at the door.

It seems his skin was sweet as mango

When last I held him to my breast.

But now we dance this grim fandango

And will four years before we rest."

"The woods are lovely, dark and deep,   

But I have promises to keep,   

And miles to go before I sleep,   

And miles to go before I sleep."

"He is not so mighty yet that he is above fear; nay, doubt ever gnaws him."

"I come back to you now at the turn of the tide."

"Who dares disturb the peace of Those Who Sleep?"

"I am Chaos. Join me."

"Allons-y!"

"Geronimo!"

"Oh, for God's sake. GALLIFREY STANDS!"

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#756787
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Journey to The Force Awakens
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Personally, I prefer Journey to Babel.

„Zum Neuen Turm Babel - zu meinem Vater - !“

Of course, that was widely considered the hardest puzzle in the game... no doubt because most players gave up in frustration at precisely that point.

(I'm reminded of the two-question survey carried out by the New Zork Times. Presumably that was the sort of thinking which led to the creation of Wishbringer.)

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#756281
Topic
Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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There's a hilarious alternate reading of the "Fly, yes; land, no!" line on the little-known Story of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade tie-in audio CD. (Skip to the end to hear it.)

Essentially that CD features a narrator (John Rhys-Davies!) recounting the film's story as if he's reading a book, interspersed with clips from the film.

Comparing the audio of that line as used in the film with this alternate take makes me think of Crystal Skull--and the two versions of Indy's "Part-time!" quip.

Only here, Lucas and Spielberg clearly used the better reading in the film, whereas with KOTCS Harrison's line delivery in the trailer was much better than in the actual movie.

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#756275
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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Frank your Majesty said:

unamochilla2 said:

The 72-year-old crash landed on Penmar Golf Course ... and was later attended to by two physicians who were on the scene.

 And that's why you always look for a golf course when you have to crash land your plane.

Harrison has sense in this at least.

So, for that matter, did Howard Hughes, who ended up in basically the same situation during a test flight in 1946. He tried to land his expiring plane on the LA Country Club golf course, but didn't quite make it and crashed into a house instead.

Luckily for Harrison, he actually managed to pull the trick off.

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#756258
Topic
All Things Star Trek
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First Nimoy, now Harve Bennett? Sad.

However, I'm ashamed to say that for some reason I thought Bennett had already died.

Incidentally, Bennett's proposed script for Star Trek VI--The Academy Years--was a reboot of sorts with younger actors playing the TOS cast, very much like JJ Abrams' Trek 2009.

The main difference was that there wasn't any "alternate reality" handwavium; it was still set in the original timeline.

Which, given the mentality of Rick Berman et al., would probably have turned out for the worse down the road, come to think of it.

(Although... I'm still mad at Lindelof for taking a brand-new continuity, and going straight to flat-out remaking the best Star Trek movie of all time. If you've got a shiny new universe, be a bit more creative with it!)

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#756148
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Last movie seen
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skyjedi2005 said:

I was really excited to see Battle of Five Armies really wanted to love the movie.

Well i have finally seen it and it is the worst of all six Jackson Middle Earth movies.

Incredibly bad cgi that is cheap looking.  Still looks lifeless and flat like the other two movies because it was shot on video and not film, and the orcs are cgi and there are no bigatures.

Almost all the changes in part three from the book are bad and of no improvement over the source.

Movie looks unfinished barely holds a consistent narrative is severally disjointed like its badly edited.  I might give it another chance with the extended, but i am not sure this movie was really tedious and unnecessary.

I feel like they could have easily told the story in two films.

Martin Freeman is totally wasted in the third part.  The emotions feel forced and not genuine.

Return of the King was a superior movie in almost every way. 

2 and a half stars out of five.

Personally, I was really disappointed that the movie skipped over Thorin's funeral, which is such a great moment in the book.

I'm still hoping that the extended cut will restore it (like Saruman's death scene in the extended edition of ROTK).

However, I really enjoyed all the visual references to Sergei Eisenstein's films. (Thorin is pretty much straight-up dressed in costume as Ivan the Terrible, and his battle on the ice with Azog is a clear homage to Alexander Nevsky.)