ATMachine

JEDIT: moved post to spoiler thread.

Diego Luna as possibly Kyle Katarn? Excite.

Dialogue in the trailer? Worrisome.

MalàStrana said:

SilverWook said:

MalàStrana said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

1. Who gives a damn about the political specifics? Did the OT delve into these in any detail?

Who gives a damn about understanding what’s going on in a movie ? Everyone who likes good movies I guess. You reallly should watch ANH by the way (I don’t write “rewatch” because you obviously have never seen this movie), the political situation is clear as crystal in it (opening crawl, subsequent dialogues with Leia, Vader, the Imperial Officer aboard the Tantive; then the Death Star meeting, with a guy called Tarkin who provides information about the Senate, the Emperor, Governors, and so on).

😉

Touché 😄

(to be fair even Raymond Chandler did not have a clue)

That’s what I’ve heard too. So probably the scriptwritrix didn’t either.

And now an attempt at some actual humor?

Looks like somebody at the packaging facility accidentally switched the Han Solo figurines for Ham Solo.

I noticed that TFA put glass in the Falcon laser turrets and had the turboguns outside controlled by separate consoles on the other side. Which is a nice improvement on the OT-era tech where if your forcefields failed you presumably got sucked out into space.

The SE version of Cloud City still looks fake to me, especially since ILM couldn’t be bothered to add in those fancy new windows in any of the reaction shots when Leia et co. first meet Vader.

Where’d that plate glass window go?! It was there five seconds ago! ;D

Sad news. I’m glad he got a second go-round in the SW universe before passing on.

TV’s Frink said:

BmB said:

Lord Haseo said:

BmB said:
What the two trilogies do in unison, is present a dualistic view of the force.

That’s a fancy way of saying George didn’t care about he source material which should have been adhered to when making the PT.

It’s a fancier way of saying George cares and knows more about the source material than anyone in this thread.

Nice to see George is a member here.

Wait, he joined this club even though we’d have him as a member?

Peter David once said that he wanted to see a 1930s period-piece Superman film. I do too.

GlastoEls said:

Back to eyebrows: would you believe they actually acknowledge this on starwars.com on the episode page?!

“Although the final cut of Return Of The Jedi has an eyebrow-less unhelmeted Darth Vader, to better read in animation, the animation model has the dark brow visible through the cracked helmet.”!

Somebody appears to be using the term “final cut” in the Blade Runner sense.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

ATMachine said:

It doesn’t even sound like the way 3PO normally speaks.

Maybe it was just Anthony Daniels speaking candidly when he thought the mic was dead after recording the sequence, and George decided to add it in.

What I meant was, the vocabulary is wrong for 3PO. It sounds too … well, too American.

It doesn’t even sound like the way 3PO normally speaks.

I bet GL put that wipe in there just so he could say that the DVD of ROTS wasn’t the theatrical version.

I’d still support a TPM original-version preservation. Just for the principle of the thing.

SilverWook said:

I don’t see the movie as being anti prequel. It’s a sequel to the events of the OT, and done in their style.

As there was a passing reference to clones, we may see subtle prequel references in the next film the way Rebels was doing in it’s early episodes.

Or like how Indy 4 referenced the events of the Young Indy Chronicles exactly once. (Admittedly that felt a bit shoehorned in.)

Also, midichlorians were introduced in 1978.

Citation needed

Yes please.

The Silver Chalice (1954), aka the film leading man Paul Newman once took out a full-page newspaper ad to urge people to not watch during its first TV showing.

The plot is about a Romanized Greek sculptor named Basil, who is hired by Joseph of Arimathea to forge a silver reliquary-type covering to hold the Holy Grail. Specifically, Joseph wants Basil to carve the likenesses of the Apostles and Jesus into the silver cup.

Naturally, as a handsome young man played by Paul Newman, Basil is pursued by not one but two lovely ladies: the buxom blonde ex-slave Helena (Debra Paget), whom he knew as a child, and who is now concubine to the evil magician Simon; and Joseph’s petite brunette granddaughter Deborah (Natalie Wood with an outrageously fake accent).

Meanwhile Simon, an alcoholic with delusions of grandeur, conceives a scheme to discredit Christianity by turning himself into a messiah figure who performs miracles (re: magic tricks) in public. Chief among these are to be stealing the Holy Grail and crushing it in his hands (because: evil!) and pretending to fly around a tall tower using cleverly hidden wires and a palette-swapped Superman costume.

However, just before a scheduled demonstration of his “flying” for Roman emperor Nero, Simon gets so drunk that he decides not to use the harness and fly via his own magic. Pavement gets splattered. Nero, ever villanious, has Helena pushed from the tower as well to see if she can do what Simon could not.

The film is notable in a couple of respects: one, when Basil travels to Rome to meet St. Peter and model his likeness for the Grail, he stays at a hostel maintained by Cephus the innkeper. Cephus evidently knows Peter, and promises repeatedly to introduce him to Basil.

However, delays keep piling up, and finally Basil asks why Peter won’t meet him. Cephus replies that Peter will see Basil when he’s ready. You’ve probably guessed by now that Cephus is actually Peter himself. (“Yoda. You seek Yoda.”)

The other notable thing is that, after Simon’s death at the tower, the citizens of Rome start a riot and begin looting houses. During the melee, the Holy Grail is stolen from Peter’s inn, and Basil is left with only the carving of Jesus’ face which he had been ready to attach to the silver chalice. Very Last Crusade.

Also, according to The Complete Making of Indiana Jones, an early draft of LC had the Grail Knight knock off one edge of the wooden chalice found by Indy to reveal a golden inner core. This was probably inspired by the Paul Newman film, though it kind of spoils the moral.

Rating: 6.75/10 wax apostle heads.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that early in the movie, young Basil carves a wooden ring with a lion-head crest for young Helena, and that’s how he recognizes her years later. I guess GL was still cribbing from this movie come the prequels.

Wait, space whales? Like in that one Star Trek movie?

Prince Exciser, er, Xizor, grows them that long just so he can force his underlings to do all his typing for him.

I want to know why Luke has a golden lightsaber on the Shadows of the Empire novel cover.

When I was younger I thought that GL didn’t actually intend incest to be a major plot point in SW.

Hux didn’t take account of the aircraft carriers.

SW was always meant to be political - the Rebels were meant to be the Viet Cong IN SPACE! Arguably the OT failed at this, though, since Ronald Reagan liked the movies enough to adopt their rhetoric.

They promise a lot and they don’t deliver. I blame Nute Gunray.

Page refreshed, apparently. Now I see it. What’s got me curious is why there’s a proscenium arch framing the upper part of the drawing.

As for what’s wrong with Attack of the Clones: Padme’s hairstyles.