The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 45

Ed Slushie said:

Knight of Kalee said:

Hal, I remember you or someone else here thought of changing the music that plays over the ending Rey Skywalker/Binary Sunset scene, as to avoid repeating the Force theme across three movies. Have you though of putting some version of Rey’s theme instead? I believe it might be the most fitting, because it reaffirms Rey’s identity above all else, and is very much the central musical theme of the sequel trilogy. I personally like this track (originally from TFA end credits): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bJpmMwrabo.
Not the full theme, but some snippets of it, like that transition between the Force and Rey’s motifs. If you plan to end the scene with a fade to black, maybe the peaceful version of the SW main theme that plays at the end of the track could could fit better instead of a more bombastic piece, as it has much of a “final farewell” feel to it.

I had the opposite idea: I rearranged tRoS’ final scene to better fit the music, and put Rey’s line at the very end, as if it’s what the music was building towards:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10HInO4Ox36-rbOv2ef1WAfN7Uxfw77mi/view?usp=sharing

I feel like it would be better if we didn’t even get the final line, just a shot of the sunset instead. Since the title is Rise of Skywalker that name is implied, and it prevents the awkwardness of her actually saying it.

Not actually saying the last name could also be a way of acknowledging all of the names, Solo, Organa, heck even Palps.

Nah, I don’t think so.

It’s not much, but I finally got to sit down long enough to mix the elements snooker sent me for the little Ewok scene into 5.1 and blend it into the new context.

Thanks, snooker, it’s a wonderful little thing.

“✅.”

Hal 9000 said:
Nice idea! That would be a very nice way to end it. It sounds like if I can’t play with the audio or get it right, Dominic certainly will. 😉

Here’s a quick pass with the alternate Rey-Luke theme when the old woman asks “Rey who?” although you may notice some missing force ghosts:
https://youtu.be/aHtMjWUYpZI

Hmmm… Leading into the credits may be the tricky part. Just playing with it in my head, I have an idea but I can’t think how to express what I mean without humming. (Can’t do that, with multiple sleeping family members and myself about to join them in sleepybyland…)

I wouldn’t want to remove the ghosts, myself. If anything adding Ben would be nice. (Even if he’s goofy! It’s okay for him to be.)

I’d be inclined not to include Qui-Gon, although hearing all the various Jedi spirits audibly even seems to go against what ROTS told us. (Weird as that was even.)

I guess Qui-Gon and the other few must have enlivened the rest of the dead Jedi. Maybe it takes a while and so they started with the big names in reverse chronological order.

Do you think adding a bit of grieving for Ben’s death might help. The film really glosses over it and practically ignores it. Maybe adding slow exterior shots with music of Exegol or Palpatine’s destroyed lair could help sink in the feeling of his loss. Anyone with VFX could possibly add Rey knealing down from behind her in one of the shots if duable.

That is exactly the sort of stuff this movie needs.

This is something that just came to my mind, and while I still find it unlikely, I could see something like this happening. Episode IX arrives on Disney+ in October, there is a chance that deleted scenes are released on there. Avengers: Endgame had some deleted scenes on there that were not on the Blu-ray. I still find it less likely to happen, but it’s possible to put people’s attention on the streaming service.

If so, great, but I’m not gonna think about it.

idir_hh said:

So in this hypothetical version, Palpatine is dying, all this time he has been grooming Kylo and Rey, a prophesiced Dyad, to inherit the throne after his death. Palps gives the rundown to Kylo but he knows that there has to be a catch, he plays along but plans to kill him together with Rey. I think the dynamic between Kylo and Palps has to change, Palps will play the act of a weak, harmless old man, like the good old days with Anakin. Make Kylo less hostile, rather more intrigued. I’m working on a mockup that will go something like this:

• At last! My boy.
• Snoke trained you well.
• I killed Snoke.
• I made Snoke. I have been the voice inside your head.
• The first Order was just the beginning, I will give you so much more.
• I have died before, now I don’t have long, I’m weak - more than a clone, less than a man.
• What could you give me ?
• Everything - a new Empire, the might of the final order will soon be ready, It will be yours if you do what I ask.
• Become what your grand father Vader could not! Find the girl, Turn her and bring her before me. Together you will rule the galaxy as emperor and empress. Two that become one. A dyad of the dark-side of the force.
• Who is she ?
• Our blood. (just my crazy headcanon)

Here’s a proof of concept:
https://vimeo.com/411776713

-Added in a hint of the “Palpatine’s teachings” track.
-Axed Snoke’s clone, as well as switching around the shots for better fluidity.
-Cut Snoke’s line “you have ever heard”.
-Cut Kylo’s aggression, he’s almost submissive, which in the context of this story makes his plan to kill Palps all the more pronounced.

idir_hh said:

idir_hh said:

So in this hypothetical version, Palpatine is dying, all this time he has been grooming Kylo and Rey, a prophesiced Dyad, to inherit the throne after his death. Palps gives the rundown to Kylo but he knows that there has to be a catch, he plays along but plans to kill him together with Rey. I think the dynamic between Kylo and Palps has to change, Palps will play the act of a weak, harmless old man, like the good old days with Anakin. Make Kylo less hostile, rather more intrigued. I’m working on a mockup that will go something like this:

• At last! My boy.
• Snoke trained you well.
• I killed Snoke.
• I made Snoke. I have been the voice inside your head.
• The first Order was just the beginning, I will give you so much more.
• I have died before, now I don’t have long, I’m weak - more than a clone, less than a man.
• What could you give me ?
• Everything - a new Empire, the might of the final order will soon be ready, It will be yours if you do what I ask.
• Become what your grand father Vader could not! Find the girl, Turn her and bring her before me. Together you will rule the galaxy as emperor and empress. Two that become one. A dyad of the dark-side of the force.
• Who is she ?
• Our blood. (just my crazy headcanon)

Here’s a proof of concept:
https://vimeo.com/411776713

-Added in a hint of the “Palpatine’s teachings” track.
-Axed Snoke’s clone, as well as switching around the shots for better fluidity.
-Cut Snoke’s line “you have ever heard”.
-Cut Kylo’s aggression, he’s almost submissive, which in the context of this story makes his plan to kill Palps all the more pronounced.

I like the way you worked in “more than a clone, less than a man.” Good job!

Thanks, always thought the original line was a bit of a cop-out.

Glad you liked it, unfortunately my audio chops are pretty amateur at the moment so I’m not sure how seamless I can make it, I could however provide time stamped references to the exact moments in the films where I collected the words if anyone wants to take a stab.

Yeah, that’s my thought, too.