I wish there was a way to resurrect Walt Disney and put him back in charge of the company. Maybe then the OOT (not to mention all the classic animated Disney films) would get the proper restorations they deserve.
Well, if the legends are to be believed there might be…
Really though, what’s wrong with the classic animated Disney films? (Besides Song of the South.) I’ve seen a couple on Blu-Ray and they looked stunning to me.
I wish there was a way to resurrect Walt Disney and put him back in charge of the company. Maybe then the OOT (not to mention all the classic animated Disney films) would get the proper restorations they deserve.
Still waiting for the Black Cauldron to hit blu-ray
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
Anyway, all this talk about Disney possibly releasing just a 2011 upscale or some kind of bastardized hybrid with a 4K scan from Reliance Media just really, really sucks. I really do not understand at all why they would do this now that George is out of the picture. Doesn’t make any sense at all to me. They said they wanted to satisfy the fans when they took over, right?
The good news is that Star Wars fans are a particular bunch; the existence of this website is proof of that. So while studios may be able to get away with releasing cheap 4K upscales for lesser films, Star Wars fans may not so easily abide by that. I can also tell you that regardless, even fans beyond this website will make plenty of noise if they yet again release the SEs without the OOT. It’s getting ridiculous at this point. Combine that with the 40th anniversary and they just might do it. They might be saving it as a surprise, they might release it all together Blade Runner style. I really don’t care how they do it so long as they do it.
I get the sense, from what Mike Verta had to say on the matter, that the Disney execs don’t seem all that interested in a theatrical version release (hopefully that changes once they hear his pitch). So I’m not sure if they have anything in the works. But on the other hand, we do know that Lucasfilm requested a scan of a print from the Library of Congress. So…maybe they do have something in the works? I dunno. I feel like there’s a lot of mixed signals on the official end of things.
But my optimism is more with this site and the projects people are doing. Even if nothing is released officially, projects here and only getting better and better. If we think Despecialized looks good now, it’ll look even better after utilizing DrDre’s tools and cleaned up Silver Screen Edition scans (& perhaps Technicolor scans in the future?).
The other thing to consider is that Disney will finally start supporting the 4k UHD blu-ray format next year. We know there’s already a 4k master of the OT from Reliance MediaWorks, although Mike Verta wasn’t thrilled at how the brief clips in their demo reel looked. This is also likely the SE yet again. It may have already made its way out there in the form of actual DCP’s if Tack’s report from one of the recent roadshow screenings is accurate.
I want to know what happened to the report Tack sent you.
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I get the sense, from what Mike Verta had to say on the matter, that the Disney execs don’t seem all that interested in a theatrical version release (hopefully that changes once they hear his pitch). So I’m not sure if they have anything in the works. But on the other hand, we do know that Lucasfilm requested a scan of a print from the Library of Congress. So…maybe they do have something in the works? I dunno. I feel like there’s a lot of mixed signals on the official end of things.
But my optimism is more with this site and the projects people are doing. Even if nothing is released officially, projects here and only getting better and better. If we think Despecialized looks good now, it’ll look even better after utilizing DrDre’s tools and cleaned up Silver Screen Edition scans (& perhaps Technicolor scans in the future?).
Didn’t Mike say that his 4K restoration cost about 100K? To me, this information should be enough to persuade Disney to either release the OUT or begin restoring it. It’ll cost Disney practically nothing to restore these films and they’d make total bank. With millions of hits on those OUT and Special Edition comparison videos, and also the popularity of the despecialized editions, I would find it hard to believe that Disney is unaware of the demand for these versions of the films. I have a feeling it has something to do it FOX still retaining rights until 2020. Maybe Disney wants all the monies
But my optimism is more with this site and the projects people are doing. Even if nothing is released officially, projects here and only getting better and better. If we think Despecialized looks good now, it’ll look even better after utilizing DrDre’s tools and cleaned up Silver Screen Edition scans (& perhaps Technicolor scans in the future?).
Assuming the Reliance scan is used for subsequent SE home releases and that it’s better than the Lowry transfer, I imagine even that will be a huge resource for future iterations of Despecialized.
I get the sense, from what Mike Verta had to say on the matter, that the Disney execs don’t seem all that interested in a theatrical version release (hopefully that changes once they hear his pitch). So I’m not sure if they have anything in the works. But on the other hand, we do know that Lucasfilm requested a scan of a print from the Library of Congress. So…maybe they do have something in the works? I dunno. I feel like there’s a lot of mixed signals on the official end of things.
But my optimism is more with this site and the projects people are doing. Even if nothing is released officially, projects here and only getting better and better. If we think Despecialized looks good now, it’ll look even better after utilizing DrDre’s tools and cleaned up Silver Screen Edition scans (& perhaps Technicolor scans in the future?).
Didn’t Mike say that his 4K restoration cost about 100K? To me, this information should be enough to persuade Disney to either release the OUT or begin restoring it. It’ll cost Disney practically nothing to restore these films and they’d make total bank. With millions of hits on those OUT and Special Edition comparison videos, and also the popularity of the despecialized editions, I would find it hard to believe that Disney is unaware of the demand for these versions of the films. I have a feeling it has something to do it FOX still retaining rights until 2020. Maybe Disney wants all the monies
That’s just his personal investment, not price of labor. An official restoration would cost much more.
I get the sense, from what Mike Verta had to say on the matter, that the Disney execs don’t seem all that interested in a theatrical version release (hopefully that changes once they hear his pitch). So I’m not sure if they have anything in the works. But on the other hand, we do know that Lucasfilm requested a scan of a print from the Library of Congress. So…maybe they do have something in the works? I dunno. I feel like there’s a lot of mixed signals on the official end of things.
But my optimism is more with this site and the projects people are doing. Even if nothing is released officially, projects here and only getting better and better. If we think Despecialized looks good now, it’ll look even better after utilizing DrDre’s tools and cleaned up Silver Screen Edition scans (& perhaps Technicolor scans in the future?).
Didn’t Mike say that his 4K restoration cost about 100K? To me, this information should be enough to persuade Disney to either release the OUT or begin restoring it. It’ll cost Disney practically nothing to restore these films and they’d make total bank. With millions of hits on those OUT and Special Edition comparison videos, and also the popularity of the despecialized editions, I would find it hard to believe that Disney is unaware of the demand for these versions of the films. I have a feeling it has something to do it FOX still retaining rights until 2020. Maybe Disney wants all the monies
That’s just his personal investment, not price of labor. An official restoration would cost much more.
I was referring to the cost to restore the print, not the total cost of paying workers and what not. Still, I’m sure the final cost would be pittance considering Disney has hundreds of millions of dollars to throw at projects. I still think an OUT is coming, either for the 40th anniversary or when FOX loses their rights in 2020. FOX has the rights to Star Wars ANH
forever, right?
nickyd47 said:
FOX has the rights to Star Wars ANH forever, right?
Yep.
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nickyd47 said:
FOX has the rights to Star Wars ANH forever, right?Yep.
Alright, I thought so. Anyways, since Disney has no problems with FOX putting out Star Wars Blu-Rays of the special editions, then they should also have no problem with FOX putting out the original versions as well, or vice versa.
The only guess i have for as to why the OUT hasn’t been put out on blu ray yet is because Disney wants to maximize profits off the sales of those movies so they’re gonna wait for FOX to lose their rights in 2020. Either that, or they simply don’t care, which I would find very hard to believe but that’s an unfortunate possibility
Or they’re working on a restoration but had other priorities (rebooting the series); ran into snags; waiting for the anniversary, etc. Could be anything, or what you suggested. The distributors cut though is so small I’d think it’d be better for Disney to release it before IX is released while interest is still higher and sales could be maximized.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
Or they’re working on a restoration but had other priorities (rebooting the series); ran into snags; waiting for the anniversary, etc. Could be anything, or what you suggested. The distributors cut though is so small I’d think it’d be better for Disney to release it before IX is released while interest is still higher and sales could be maximized.
Now that I did the math, I highly doubt that Disney wouldn’t care about an HD OUT release.
I combined all the views that Marcelo’s comparison videos and Harmys despecialized videos got and the grand total
was 84,062,000 views. With all that’s happened with Disney and FOX and George Lucas, the idea of an OUT HD restoration
not coming to Blu-Ray seems highly unlikely to me.
I dunno, to me, there are to many views on those videos for Disney to ignore. The demand is clearly there.
It’s reaching the point now for HD that we were at a decade ago for SD.
People were converting the laserdiscs to dvd, George released a transfer directly from the digital master tape itself.
Now people are doing the same thing using actual 35mm prints. The answer to this would be a transfer of something higher up the chain like an IP, sep, or the o-neg itself.
It’s reaching the point now for HD that we were at a decade ago for SD.
People were converting the laserdiscs to dvd, George released a transfer directly from the digital master tape itself.
Now people are doing the same thing using actual 35mm prints. The answer to this would be a transfer of something higher up the chain like an IP, sep, or the o-neg itself.
Robert Harris, the guy who restored films like The Godfather and Lawrence of Arabia, has claimed that immaculate
prints of the OUT exist. Either Disney is mastering those prints in 4K or they simply haven’t touched them for
whatever reason. Assuming what Robert said was is true
I want to know what you guys think.
No. It’ll never happen.
If Disney doesn’t release the OOT, I’d find it harder to forgive them then I did to forgive GL because:
If Disney doesn’t release the OOT, it’s because they think most people don’t care enough about it. And the reason why most people might not care is Lucas neglecting it for decades. I can forgive not releasing the OOT because of a business decision more easily than not releasing the OOT in order to replace it with the SE.
Ceci n’est pas une signature.
anyone considered maybe fox is the problem, mind you Im not giving disney and kind of break, i’ve been boycotting them for other reasons for some time now but if alamo roadhouse advertises 97 special edition and then they show 2011 version, could it be that fox pushed their “distribution Rights” I mean unlike alot of disney films, star wars can’t even be screen by non-profits, yes I checked. I may be spit-balling, but I’m just wondering if it’s not just disney? Maybe?
I honestly can’t fathom why 20th C. Fox would give a shit at this point. Sure, they’re mad they couldn’t bid on Lucasfilm, but you’d think at this point they’d just want to make as much dinero as they can before their home/theater distribution rights expire, which is a quickly approaching inevitability.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
Lucas stole the OOT from us.
There’s no reason to blame anyone more than him.
Why did you fell in love with half finished movies ? The blame is on you.
Why did you fell in love with half finished movies ? The blame is on you.
I absolutely cannot tell if you’re being serious. On the small chance you are…
Why did Lucas release half finished moves? The blame is on him.
The blame is on Canada.
By the way, aren’t the recently released LP based on the original LP ? “Ewok Celebration and Finale”, is it the 1983 cue or the 1997 one ?