Why we hate the prequels at OT forum. — Page 3

I dislike them because george f!@#ed them up.  It starts with him. 

Poor writing,poor acting, overdependance of cgi due to excessive laziness and ego.  He had PLENTY of time to come up with something, anything, better than what we got. I feel great resentment with Luca$ everytime I watch the PT.

Jarjar is an abomination to the world of SW.  He's better suited for some children's show on nickelodean, not the world of SW.  Or better yet, his concept should have been incinerated, never to be revealed!  So much precious screentime was wasted on that orange putz.

IMO, the PT has no integrity.  All 3 movies are basically 2hr,20min commercials for hasbro toys.  THATS more important to Luca$ more than anything.  For george, its ALL about merchandising.  He's more concerned about what he can plaster the SW label on, and how much money he can make.  He told his creative teams during their crafting that he wants every character to be able to be made into a toy, so dont complicate the physical feature. more characters=more toys.  That really pisses me off too.

You know, I no longer look at Jar Jar as the downfall of Star Wars anymore. It's the rest of the stuff that's so bad.

- The small universe: Chewie and Yoda being BFFs was the last straw
- The lazy ties to the OT
- The things that were simple facts in the OT are now lies or stretches of the truth:
Uncle Owen never thought Anakin should have stayed and not gotten involved, Leia couldn't have remembered her real mother, Obi-wan never directly served Leia's father in the Clone Wars, Yoda wasn't the Jedi Master who instructed Obi-wan
- and more, I'm sure.

doubleofive said:

You know, I no longer look at Jar Jar as the downfall of Star Wars anymore. It's the rest of the stuff that's so bad.

- The small universe: Chewie and Yoda being BFFs was the last straw
- The lazy ties to the OT
- The things that were simple facts in the OT are now lies or stretches of the truth:
Uncle Owen never thought Anakin should have stayed and not gotten involved, Leia couldn't have remembered her real mother, Obi-wan never directly served Leia's father in the Clone Wars, Yoda wasn't the Jedi Master who instructed Obi-wan
- and more, I'm sure.

Agreed with all of this, and let me just add the fact that George never can figure out if he actually wants these to be prequels or not.

Let's remember (as a lot of people misuse this term) that prequel is short for pre-sequel.  It is a sequel that chronologically comes before its predecessors.  And George sucks the teets of that premise for all its worth.  "Hey, look, it's C3PO as a young, naked man!  I remember him from the original movies!"  "Hey, look, it's Chewbacca hanging out with Yoda!  I remember them from the original movies!"  "Hey, look, it's that ship Darth Vader walked onto in the original movie!"  "Hey, look, it's the Death Star from the original movie!"  The prequels hardly have any life to them that's not leaching from the original films, yet...

George would rather you believe they're not prequels in the first place and instead are just literally the first three movies of the Star Wars saga... totally undermining every ridiculous in-joke and reference he makes in them!

YOU NO MAKE SENSE, LUCAS!!!!

Gaffer Tape said:

George would rather you believe they're not prequels in the first place and instead are just literally the first three movies of the Star Wars saga... totally undermining every ridiculous in-joke and reference he makes in them!

YOU NO MAKE SENSE, LUCAS!!!!

Hey they still Nuked the fridge with or without the help of Lucas, i still to this day pretend the fourth indiana jones film never happened it is better that way, just like i pretend their are only 3 star wars movies.

You know that after five or six scripts trying to shoehorn sci fi aliens into the indiana jones world, maybe they should have tossed that idea in the trash and worked out a real indiana jones idea like the serial adventures of old.

Hell the marvel comics and dark horse people came up with better ideas, or the game people at Lucasarts.  Lucash sucks at writing and Ford and Spielberg should have stuck to the no aliens in indiana jones thing they at first put their foot down over.

anchorhead said

However, he had to have help in all three to get them right. Without Marcia, Kurtz, Spielberg, & Ford (and many others) - his films most likely wouldn't have been as successful

Spot on.  I recall reading about the collaboration a long time ago and I began thinking about Luca$ in a different light.  With the OOT, creative collaborators and film executives were able to disagree with Luca$ or flat out tell him "NO".  With the PT there wasnt anybody around to say: "George, SW cant go in this direction, this is SHIT".  Instead, Luca$ bought out SW, surrounded himself with "yes" men, and mentally got lost and forgot what made SW so special.

In regards to Indiana Jones, Luca$'s biggest involvement should have been relegated to parking the staff's cars.  KOTCS was aweful and I too exclude it from the real IJ trilogy.  I only saw it once, in the theater, and Ive no desire to see it again.  Aliens?! really?!  At the end of the movie I half expected Moulder and Skully to pop in.  But that movie, like the PT, made an undeserving large amount of money.  So I wouldnt be surprised if george proposed doing another.  Seems he's into milking these franchises at the expense of their integrity.

Why I hate the prequels most is that they are taking the credit away from the OT. Meaning the OT takes all the crap because of it, I'm fed up with the SEs and constant changing, and I think the popularity of SW is going down because of them. Also there was a time when pretty much everyone loved SW but now if I was to say that I like SW I have to make clear that I'm only talking about the originals. I could care less about the prequels themselves, I can always not watch them and I'm doing just that.

ChainsawAsh said:

Hey, I loved Jedi Power Battles!  I actually still have it, and played with a friend a couple weeks ago.  It's harder than I remember.

Actually, so do I. As much as it pains me to admit...

hairy_hen said:

I've always been more of a Dark Forces kind of guy--I've owned the whole series at one point or another, and still get out Jedi Outcast/Academy for my Mac sometimes.  (Of course, I do tend to cheat with the Force powers to make it more fun.  lol)  In addition to the excellence of gameplay, I like that their design makes relatively little concession to prequel-isms.

The dismemberment cheat is stunning. Outcast is awesome, Academy is really fun, and DFII: Jedi Knight is still a great game.

Another thing I hate is Luca$ admitting that TPM and AOTC were just "filler" films.  What a damn waste!    If I were writing, I'd be licking my chops with enthusiasm!  But no, Luca$ is all ho-hum about it and barely turns in a script on time before filming, with crap.  Taxation of trade routes?!  Midiclorians?! a lazy jedi council?! Just 2 sith?! jar jerk binks?!

Hoth-Nudist said:

Another thing I hate is Luca$ admitting that TPM and AOTC were just "filler" films.

Where can this quote be found? I'm not doubting he said it, and it's obviously true, but I'd like a reference so I can show people.

 Seriously, the picture above should be made THE appended caption to any or all of Lucas' bad ideas........