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I don't understand why everyone keeps saying that Leia remembers Bails wife?!?!

Luke - "Leia, do you remember your mother? Your real mother?"
Leia - "Just a little, she died when I was very young"

It's not "Do you remember your mother? Not your real mother, you're adoptive mother, Bails wife"

So where you all get that she is remembering Bails wife is beyond me.

As some else said in a thread elswhere "Have you even seen these film?"

Besides I remember things from my childhood that I can't really explain.
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It was said that Leia had a force connection with Padme when she was born and enabled her to have memories of her mother..
"A Jedi can feel the force flow through him".
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Originally posted by: Jedikev
It was said that Leia had a force connection with Padme when she was born and enabled her to have memories of her mother..



Where was that said?

And as for this remembering Bail's wife stuff....I don't get where any of you are coming up with that. Luke said, "Your real mother"....sounds pretty certain to me what he's asking about.
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I'm not sure who said that, but it implies that Luke had no connection, and I don't think that's the case at all.

Force-strong people don't see everything. They are not omniscient.

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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

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We weren't saying that she was remember Bail's wife, we're saying that it makes that line that now makes no sense, make more sense. Does that make sense?
16 years I wait and this is what I get???
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who can sense the force, for that is the only truely powerful sense, besides the sense of touch, which alows for people to sense each other. man this is a sensational thread.
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Christ oh Mighty, if you can believe in ships that not only perform impossible manouevers in space but also make a lot of sound at the same time (point being - no sound in space) then is it beyond the realms of possibility that maybe the Force (the thing that makes those Jedi able to do all that other stuff that's impossible) made Leia remember her mum? It really isn't that hard to imagine, but people need this sort of thing spoon fed to them these days. No imagination.
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Lucas wrote himself into a corner, that's why Padme dies. He finished two films and then realized that he hadn't set up Anakin's fall to evil, so when it came time figure out why a whiney, bratty teenager will transform into a bloodthirsty, kiddie-slaying lapdog of Palpatine, Lucas got desperate and went for the old "he loves his wife so much he'll turn evil to save her" routine. But then Lucas realized that if Vader loved his wife so much, the audience would expect Vader to go searching for her, even if he had become evil! Maybe he'd want to show his love by doing EVIL things to her instead of pornographic things, but nevertheless, Lucas was trapped. Padme had to go.

It would have made more sense for Anakin to desert Padme in his fall to evil, since wife lovin' isn't generally considered an evil act. Anakin and Padme could have just had an argument and Padme could have fled when Anakin started in with the domestic violence, like maybe after he jolted her with force-lightening.

Or Anakin could see the future and in it Padme would be laid out in front of a TeeVee like a beached whale, totally fat and stuffing her face with Bantha Rinds. Anakin confronts her and tells her he's leaving her for a hotter broad, and when Padme tells him she's pregnant, he says, "too bad, bitch, go get an abortion!" Then he force-squeezes her uterus in an attempt to kill her babies. That would be far more EVIL than how he loves her too much in ROTS.
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Originally posted by: Zebonka
Christ oh Mighty, if you can believe in ships that not only perform impossible manouevers in space but also make a lot of sound at the same time (point being - no sound in space) then is it beyond the realms of possibility that maybe the Force (the thing that makes those Jedi able to do all that other stuff that's impossible) made Leia remember her mum? It really isn't that hard to imagine, but people need this sort of thing spoon fed to them these days. No imagination.


But we are never shown that Lea's memory of her mother is a "force memory", this is only an explanation that exists in the minds of Lucas apologists. All the movies show is that Padme dies right after childbirth, and then 30 years later her daughter, who was a few seconds old, remembers her.

Humans don't remember people and events until they are about 2 years old. Thus when we say things like "I remember my mum, she died when I was young" it's assumed by others that we were at least a few years old when mommy died.

Perhaps the midichorians remembered Padme for their host, Lea. Or maybe Lea used the force to remember her mummy. But we never saw any of this at all, nor was any of it implied. That's why it's called a continuity lapse.

"To delight in war is a merit in the soldier, a dangerous quality in the captain and a crime in the statesman." - George Santayana
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"this is only an explanation that exists in the minds of Lucas apologists."

Interesting, since I accept it, and I am not a Lucas apologist by any stretch of the word. You paint your enemies with too wide a brush.

"Humans don't remember people and events until they are about 2 years old. Thus when we say things like "I remember my mum, she died when I was young" it's assumed by others that we were at least a few years old when mommy died.

Perhaps the midichorians remembered Padme for their host, Lea. Or maybe Lea used the force to remember her mummy. But we never saw any of this at all, nor was any of it implied. That's why it's called a continuity lapse."

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YODA: Concentrate... feel the Force flow. Yes. Good. Calm, yes. Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future...the past. Old friends long gone.


The answer was right in front of your face, and in the OT, no less. Your assumption about what her statement could have meant ignores this.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Why would he write such a MAJOR and EASILY AVOIDABLE continuity error.


Since when has Lucas been concerned with continuity? He's made a second career out of altering the story line and characters of his movies to make up for his lies about having the whole thing planned out from the early 70s.
Uh, yeah, sure he did.
He's a one hit wonder. Too bad he keeps making his one hit worse every couple of years.

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Originally posted by: Cable-X1
LucASS could have been right up there with Tolkien.... and he basically blew it and for what?




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Anchorhead, I love your .sig. LOL!

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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i personally fall on the side of the padme death being stupid. basically, lucas wrote a weak and lame female character in the PT that isn't fit to stand in the shadow of her daughter Leia. thus, instead of a fierce and noble death for this brave woman who believes in democracy, we get death by broken heart. what is this, jane austen???

i also fall on the side of the leia remembering thing as continuity lapse, and one that, as others have said, would have been easy to fix.

and yet, on the whole, i do like ROTS. i hate the first two with an undying passion and generally dislike lucas at this point, but on the PT end, one out of three ain't bad, i guess.
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