I’m guessing your name is Mark.
Nah. I don’t Gary Stu
What?
I think it’s the male version of a Mary Sue, based on the way it sounds.
I know what Gary Stu is, I just have no idea how it relates to the previous quote.
Because of the Mark character in the original post, Quazz was accusing Hobo of Gary Stuism.
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Oh. I didn’t bother with the original post because fan fiction.
Oh. I didn’t bother with the original post because fan fiction.
Just because something is made by fans doesn’t mean it will suck (though I understand your point of view). I like to think I at least got some stuff right that Lucas got wrong, and I even did serious RESEARCH about religion.
I think most people in real life would qualify as Sith. Since the Christian religion is the most popular, I based the Sith on them.
Christians ironically don’t follow or even read the Bible and used to lead holy wars and violent crusades. The religions that the Jedi are based on are much less violent than Christianity, so I figured that some Jedi would realize how hypocritical the wars and crusades they were partaking in, which would separate the Jedi into peaceful monks and warriors.
Whenever religious people don’t like their religion anymore, they make a new one, so I had the warriors become the Sith.
My Sith Wars are completely realistic and have real-life parallels just like the Rebellion from the original trilogy was based on World War II and the American Revolution. I’m no historian, but I can’t think of a single war where a guy created two armies only to make them fight each other (simplest least convoluted Clone Wars explanation).
tl;dr: You’re a jerk, Frink.
My Sith Wars are completely realistic and have real-life parallels just like the Rebellion from the original trilogy was based on World War II and the American Revolution. I’m no historian, but I can’t think of a single war where a guy created two armies only to make them fight each other (simplest least convoluted Clone Wars explanation).
Well, there was that one time Satan rebelled in Heaven…
And theological connections vis-a-vis Palpatine do seem to have been on GL’s mind in the prequels. Darth Plagueis’ name, for instance, is a Paradise Lost reference.
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
tl;dr: You’re a jerk, Frink.
My Sith Wars are completely realistic and have real-life parallels just like the Rebellion from the original trilogy was based on World War II and the American Revolution. I’m no historian, but I can’t think of a single war where a guy created two armies only to make them fight each other (simplest least convoluted Clone Wars explanation).
Well, there was that one time Satan rebelled in Heaven…
And theological connections vis-a-vis Palpatine do seem to have been on GL’s mind in the prequels. Darth Plagueis’ name, for instance, is a Paradise Lost reference.
I can’t tell what your first comment means. Are you saying the Rebellion is like Lucifer? (Lucifer became Satan AFTER rebelling) Do you think Lucifer created two armies and made them fight each other?
The prequels had religion in mind, but the references were fucked up in the worst way.
The Jedi, once based on Taoism and Zen Buddhism in the original trilogy, became more like Christians. Darth Vader was inexplicably paralled with Jesus Christ (with the whole “the savior” and virgin birth stuff), which made the Force exclusive. If you don’t have a bunch of Force juice/midichlorians, you can’t use the Force or be the Chosen One! In the original trilogy, even a wrinkly green midget who can barely move can be a wise master! (though later it was revealed that green midget can perform barrel rolls in the air while carrying a laser sword)
My Sith Wars are completely realistic and have real-life parallels just like the Rebellion from the original trilogy was based on World War II and the American Revolution. I’m no historian, but I can’t think of a single war where a guy created two armies only to make them fight each other (simplest least convoluted Clone Wars explanation).
Well, there was that one time Satan rebelled in Heaven…
And theological connections vis-a-vis Palpatine do seem to have been on GL’s mind in the prequels. Darth Plagueis’ name, for instance, is a Paradise Lost reference.
I can’t tell what your first comment means. Are you saying the Rebellion is like Lucifer? (Lucifer became Satan AFTER rebelling) Do you think Lucifer created two armies and made them fight each other?
More like God in the backstory to the Bible, who created a host of angels who proceeded to divide into warring two camps - one made up of rebels led by Lucifer, the other of loyalists led by St. Michael - and fight each other. This kind of makes Palpatine comparable to the Gnostic idea of the Demiurge.
As I said above, the name “Darth Plagueis” comes from Milton’s poem Paradise Lost. Specifically, it comes from Book II, lines 170-174, where the demon Belial counsels against renewing war with Heaven on the grounds that God has terrifying powers of revenge:
What if the breath that kindl’d those grim fires
Awak’d should blow them into sevenfold rage
And plunge us in the flames? or from above
Should intermitted vengeance arm again
His red right hand to plague us?
The “red right hand” mentioned here is actually that of God. Compare Palpatine’s assertion that Plagueis could use the Force to create life in quasi-divine fashion. (Virgin birth, anyone?)
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
I’m gonna go ahead and say it’s a huge leap to assert that the source of the name “Darth Plagueis” is a line from a poem just because they sound similar.
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You might be surprised. The 1973 Journal of the Whills fragment does after all mention a spaceship called Balmung, after Siegfried’s sword in the medieval German Nibelungenlied poem.
Of course, the prequels certainly did “plague us” with bad writing, so who knows?
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
My Sith Wars are completely realistic and have real-life parallels just like the Rebellion from the original trilogy was based on World War II and the American Revolution. I’m no historian, but I can’t think of a single war where a guy created two armies only to make them fight each other (simplest least convoluted Clone Wars explanation).
Well, there was that one time Satan rebelled in Heaven…
And theological connections vis-a-vis Palpatine do seem to have been on GL’s mind in the prequels. Darth Plagueis’ name, for instance, is a Paradise Lost reference.
I can’t tell what your first comment means. Are you saying the Rebellion is like Lucifer? (Lucifer became Satan AFTER rebelling) Do you think Lucifer created two armies and made them fight each other?
More like God in the backstory to the Bible, who created a host of angels who proceeded to divide into warring two camps - one made up of rebels led by Lucifer, the other of loyalists led by St. Michael - and fight each other. This kind of makes Palpatine comparable to the Gnostic idea of the Demiurge.
As I said above, the name “Darth Plagueis” comes from Milton’s poem Paradise Lost. Specifically, it comes from Book II, lines 170-174, where the demon Belial counsels against renewing war with Heaven on the grounds that God has terrifying powers of revenge:
What if the breath that kindl’d those grim fires
Awak’d should blow them into sevenfold rage
And plunge us in the flames? or from above
Should intermitted vengeance arm again
His red right hand to plague us?The “red right hand” mentioned here is actually that of God. Compare Palpatine’s assertion that Plagueis could use the Force to create life in quasi-divine fashion. (Virgin birth, anyone?)
Yeah, I don’t think that’s a good comparison. God isn’t like Palpatine because Palpatine specifically created the droids and clones to fight and nothing else.
Besides, talk about real wars, plz. The only reason I know so much about religion is because I am atheist.
The only reason I know so much about religion is because I am atheist.
Wut?
I guess he means he’s more inclined to learn about religions because he doesn’t already believe in one…I guess?
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There’s actually a study that shows that Atheists tend to know more about what’s in Religious texts (primarily the Bible) than actual believers. As someone who used to be a “militant Atheist” a few years back I learned many things about the Bible to fuel my hatred of it and to know what I was talking about when I debated people.
…I learned many things about the Bible to fuel my hatred of it…
You actively hate the Bible?
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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.
…I learned many things about the Bible to fuel my hatred of it…
You actively hate the Bible?
Yes, when it has things passages saying to kill homosexuals (and pretty much everyone else who isn’t a straight worshiper of Yahweh), a raped virgin must marry her rapist and a woman should not have authority over a man how could I not hate it?
…I learned many things about the Bible to fuel my hatred of it…
You actively hate the Bible?
Yes, when it has things passages saying to kill homosexuals (and pretty much everyone else who isn’t a straight worshiper of Yahweh), a raped virgin must marry her rapist and a woman should not have authority over a man how could I not hate it?
Preach (how ironic to say when we are atheists).
Even believing the Bible is convoluted. It’s been altered and mistranslated for centuries (assuming the original Bible is somehow true, everybody who worships an altered Bible is going to hell which means everybody is going to hell) and the Bible itself gives four contradicting accounts of how the world was created.
How to become an atheist:
Step 1: Read the Bible.
Step 2: Understand the Bible.
Step 3: Think about the Bible.
Step 4: Profit.
I believe there’s a thread for this in the off-topic section of the site.
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How to become an atheist:
Step 1: Read the Bible.
Step 2: Understand the Bible.
Step 3: Think about the Bible.
Step 4: Profit.
Damn all those progressive/liberal Christians for not fitting this conceited notion!
…I learned many things about the Bible to fuel my hatred of it…
You actively hate the Bible?
Yes, when it has things passages saying to kill homosexuals (and pretty much everyone else who isn’t a straight worshiper of Yahweh), a raped virgin must marry her rapist and a woman should not have authority over a man how could I not hate it?
Replied in Off Topic as to not clog this thread.
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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.
How to become an atheist:
Step 1: Read the Bible.
Step 2: Understand the Bible.
Step 3: Think about the Bible.
Step 4: Profit.Damn all those progressive/liberal Christians for not fitting this conceited notion!
This very sentence proves that you believe in Hell! 😉
Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.
If I believe in Hell, it’s the Hell of the universalists. 😉
…I learned many things about the Bible to fuel my hatred of it…
You actively hate the Bible?
Of course he does. He’s enlightened by his own intelligence…
Don’t do that…
There is only 1 Hell I believe in and that’s a fast food restaurant at the outskirts of the town
How did this discussion about Star Wars turn into a religious debate?