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What is your personal canon? — Page 9


My list below, and I’ve included some (of what I think) are excellent fanfilms that I have italicised, mostly animated in the Unreal Engine. They can all be found on YouTube.

There would be a few more novels to add to my headcanon, but haven’t got around to the new Thrawn books or The High Republic yet to properly evaluate them.

Star Wars: Visions - The Duel (my own headcanon for it to explain discrepancies)
Knights of the Old Republic
The Old Republic: Rescue Mission by Torrm Production
Knights of the Old Republic II
Nihilus: Fall of Katarr by Jake Wallis VFX
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Return
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Hope
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Deceived
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Sacrifice
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Betrayed
Crossfire - Star Wars The Old Republic Short Film, by Loacher Films
Darth Bane: Path of Destruction
Darth Bane: Rule of Two
Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil
Star Wars: Visions - The Elder
Darth Plagueis (except where it contradicts The Clone Wars)
Star Wars: Darth Maul
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
Marvel Star Wars: Obi-Wan and Anakin
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (my own version, including deleted scenes)
Star Wars: The Clone Wars (film, tv, Dark Disciple, Son of Dathomir)
Uprising - Star Wars Short Film by Fredly
Against All Odds: A Star Wars Animated Short Film by Frostbite Cinematics
The Elite - Star Wars Short Film by Loacher Films
Shadow of the Republic - Star Wars Short Film by Cinematic Captures
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (including the novelisation and my own version and certain deleted scenes)
Order 66 - Star Wars Short Film by Cinematic Captures
Betrayal - Star Wars: Order 66 Short Film by Loacher Films
Marvel Star Wars: Darth Vader Volume 2
The Bad Batch
Brothers - Star Wars Battlefront II animation by Loacher Films
Star Wars: Visions - The Village Bride
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Star Wars: Rebels
Starkiller: A Star Wars Teaser by Shain
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Star Wars (with my own updates)
Star Wars Volume 1
Star Wars: Darth Vader Volume 1
My Enemy - A Star Wars Story by Loacher Films
The Empire Strikes Back (with my own updates)
Star Wars Volume 2
Star Wars: Darth Vader Volume 3
Star Wars: War of the Bounty Hunters
Fallen Angel - A Star Wars Short by AlexS189
Return of the Jedi (with my own updates)
Star Wars Squadrons
Star Wars Battlefront II
Star Wars: Shattered Empire
The Mandalorian
The Guardian - A Star Wars Short Film by KRYPTIK
The Return - A Star Wars Fan Film by Jeremy Brauns Music
Star Wars - Tragedy of the Chosen One by Ian-Luke Production
Star Wars Battlefront II: Resurgence
Kylo Ren vs Darth Vader: Force of Darkness - A Star Wars Fan-Film) by SeizeTheFrame
Star Wars Legacy - Fan Short by Tim Gray
Star Wars: Resistance
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (with updates from Hal and bbghost)
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (with my own updates, largely from Poppasketti)
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (with my own updates, largely from Hal)
Star Wars: Visions - The Ninth Jedi


I don’t really have a strict personal canon. For me, it’s more like “tiers” of canon, like what we used to have with the old EU. So here are my “tiers”:

A-tier: Unaltered Original Trilogy
B-tier: Prequel Trilogy, Special Editions, Movie Novelizations/Radio Dramas
C-tier: Good Expanded Universe stories
D-tier: Bad Expanded Universe stories
E-tier: Fan films/fiction

Disney canon is a separate entity, in my mind.


No personal canon. I exist in the badlands where all Star Wars media may or may not have happened. A New Hope and The Freemaker Adventures are on the same level of canonicity.

Death of the Author


The only acceptable canon is Auralnauts’ Star Wars saga.



To me it’s in tiers as well.

  1. Episodes I - VI, 2003 CW Microseries
  2. TCW, Rebels, Solo, Rogue One
  3. Other EU stuff I enjoy - books, comics, etc. - both from the Disney era and the Lucas era

The ST is in a weird spot for me, canonically. More often than not I find myself trying to fall in love with the movies but it’s just so hard to see them as a good continuation of the story. The good thing is that its biggest strengths lie in the trilogy as a meta narrative, each movie trying to communicate with the previous six in different ways. TFA and TROS I really dislike but TLJ I find a fitting coda to the saga. How “canon” those events are, though, is a different beast and I tend not to give it too much thought.


Being serious this time, I also have tiers.

  1. Hal9000’s prequel edits, Adywan’s OT edits (with 4K83 filling in for ROTJ), and Hal9000’s sequel edits
  2. Clone Wars 3D cartoon, the Maul-centric episodes of Rebels, The Mandalorian and its spin-offs, and Solo.
  3. The various Legends and Canon stuff I enjoy - even if it slightly contradicts itself. I’ll take the novel Death Star over Rouge One any day of the week. I’ll also acknowledge the Thrawn Trilogy over Rebels Thrawn.

I like to pick and choose.


Yeah, I also tend to have a tier-like system for organizing various parts of the franchise.

1st tier: The original trilogy (either theatrical or Revisited)
2nd tier: The prequel trilogy (Hal9000 edits)
3rd tier: Rogue One, Solo, Mandalorian, certain episodes of Clone Wars, and future live action shows
4th tier: Any other stuff that I happen to like

Like with many others, the sequels are in a bit of a weird spot for me. I genuinely like TLJ, and I can enjoy TFA and TROS as big dumb fanservice flicks, but I just can’t accept them as being the “true” conclusion to the story. I can tolerate them much more when separated from the rest of the franchise. Also, I genuinely can’t stand Rebels, and if the live action shows end up being impossible to separate from that storyline it would be a real shame.

My preferred Skywalker Saga experience:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Having Qui-Gon go against the Jedi Code, be gay, and have an affair with Darth Maul is all certainly possible, but somehow it just feels like several bridges too far for me.


I also have a hierarchical Canon system. My hierarchical system consists of two levels: the S Canon (Superior Canon) and the C Canon (Continuity Canon). The S Canon consists of all the stories that in my opinion are indispensable to understand the Star Wars universe. The S Canon stories are the following:

Dawn of the Jedi
Tales of the Jedi
Knights of the Old Republic (comics)
Knights of the Old Republic I
The Old Republic: Revan
Knights of the Old Republic II
Star Wars: The Old Republic
The Darth Bane Trilogy
Darth Plagueis
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace (novelization)
Outbound Flight
Star Wars: Attack of the Clones (novelization)
Labyrinth of Evil
Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (novelization)
Kenobi (novel)
Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
The Han Solo Trilogy
Death Star (novel)
The Force Unleashed (novelization)
Star Wars (1977)
Choices of One
The Empire Strikes Back (special edition)
Shadows of the Empire
Mara Jade: By the Emperor’s Hand
Return of the Jedi
Tatooine Ghost
The Thrawn Trilogy
The Jedi Academy Trilogy
The Hand of Thrawn Duology
The New Jedi Order (series)
Legacy (comics)

All the other Expanded Universe stories I listed in my post on page 8 are still part of my personal Canon, but I consider them canonically inferior, because unlike the stories I have listed now, they are not necessary to understand the Star Wars universe. So I put them in the C Canon. The other Expanded Universe stories are simply further expansions of the stories I just listed. Expansions well accepted and certainly successful, but still expansions, ie stories not indispensable to understand the general history of the Star Wars universe. Of course, the Disney Wars stories don’t exist to me. In my mind it’s still 2012, and TCW doesn’t exist as well.


For me, the true canon is I-VI and the 2008 The Clone Wars Series. Everything else I basically consider fan fiction that ranges from great/authentic to not very good. I do love most of the content we’ve gotten in the Disney era with the exception of The Rise of Skywalker.


These canon/legends works are canon to my fanfic verse.

Rogue One
Star Wars (Theatrical)
The Red One (From A Certain Point of View chapter)
The Luckless Rodian (From A Certain Point of View chapter)
The Empire Strikes Back (Theatrical)
Return of the Jedi (Theatrical)
Heir to the Empire
Dark Force Rising
The Last Command

The sequel trilogy is an alternate universe.


Original unaltered trilogy
Thrawn trilogy of books
Holiday special

I really don’t get too caught up on what’s canon, and what’s not. And even if I don’t consider something in my personal canon does not mean I refuse to watch it. There are things about the other movies I really like (specifically TFA, which I would include if it didn’t contradict Heir to the Empire). This is just the stuff I consider to be the main story(and the best content) in my head. I’m yet to delve into more of the EU, but from what I’ve read, I anticipate liking it.

Ooh, maybe the Muppet show episode too

You’ll laugh! You’ll cry! You’ll kiss three bucks goodbye!


The entire “Legends” timeline.

Movies, comics, novels, TV and all.

I’m not really that much of a movie purist.