What is your personal canon? — Page 9

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Yeah, I also tend to have a tier-like system for organizing various parts of the franchise.

1st tier: The original trilogy (either theatrical or Revisited)
2nd tier: The prequel trilogy (Hal9000 edits)
3rd tier: Rogue One, Solo, Mandalorian, certain episodes of Clone Wars, and future live action shows
4th tier: Any other stuff that I happen to like

Like with many others, the sequels are in a bit of a weird spot for me. I genuinely like TLJ, and I can enjoy TFA and TROS as big dumb fanservice flicks, but I just can’t accept them as being the “true” conclusion to the story. I can tolerate them much more when separated from the rest of the franchise. Also, I genuinely can’t stand Rebels, and if the live action shows end up being impossible to separate from that storyline it would be a real shame.

I noticed that my earlier description of my personal Canon was quite vague, so I decided to create a more detailed post outlining every piece of media included in it:

• Dawn of the Jedi (comics)
• Tales of the Jedi (comics)
• Knights of the Old Republic (comics)
• Knights of the Old Republic I
• The Old Republic: Revan
• Knights of the Old Republic II
• The Old Republic: Deceived
• The Old Republic (comics)
• The Old Republic (original game)
• The Darth Bane Trilogy
• Darth Plagueis (novel)
• Jedi: The Dark Side
• Jedi Apprentice (series)
• The Aurorient Express
• Last Stand on Ord Mantell
• Maul: Lockdown
• Jedi Council: Acts of War
• Republic comics (from Issue 1 to 6)
• Darth Maul: Saboteur
• Cloak of Deception
• Star Wars: Darth Maul (comics)
• Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
• Episode I: The Phantom Menace
• Bounty Hunter (video game)
• Jango Fett: Open Seasons
• Republic comics (from issue 7 to 49)
• Rogue Planet (novel)
• Jedi Quest (series)
• Outbound Flight
• The Approaching Storm
• Episode II: Attack of the Clones
• Republic Commando (video game)
• Republic Commando (novel series)
• The Clone Wars (2002 video game)
• Republic comics (from issue 50 to 83)
• The Cestus Deception
• Star Wars: Jedi (comic series)
• Star Wars: Shatterpoint
• The MedStar Duology
• Secrets of the Jedi
• General Grievous (comics)
• Obsession (comics)
• Star Wars: Jedi Trial
• Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
• Star Wars: Brothers in Arms
• Labyrinth of Evil
• Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
• Star Wars: Kenobi (novel)
• Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
• Star Wars: Purge (comic series)
• Star Wars: Dark Times (series)
• Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
• The Coruscant Knights Trilogy
• The Last of the Jedi (series)
• The Last Jedi (novel)
• Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
• The Han Solo Trilogy
• Death Star (novel)
• The Force Unleashed (novelization)
• Star Wars: Extinction (comic series)
• Star Wars: Empire (comic series)
• Episode IV: A New Hope
• Soldier for the Empire (novella)
• Star Wars: Rebellion (comic series)
• Star Wars: Scoundrells
• Rebel Forces (series)
• Allegiance (novel)
• Choices of One (novel)
• Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
• Shadows of the Empire
• Mara Jade: By The Emperor’s Hand
• Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
• Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor
• Rebel Agent (novella)
• Jedi Knight (novella)
• The Courtship of Princess Leia
• Tatooine Ghost
• The Thrawn Trilogy
• Dark Empire (the first comic)
• The Jedi Academy Trilogy
• The Hand of Thrawn Duology
• Star Wars: Union (comics)
• Junior Jedi Knights (series)
• Young Jedi Knights (series)
• The New Jedi Order (series)

I don’t entirely dislike the 2008 Clone Wars series, but I prefer the Dark Horse comics and the Clone Wars Multimedia Project, as they feel more realistic and align more closely with the tone of the Prequel films.

My personal Canon is also designed to remain as consistent as possible with the lore established in the Prequel Trilogy. For this reason, the Chosen One Prophecy must hold true, which means that Palpatine cannot return after being killed by Anakin, and no Sith should exist after Return of the Jedi. To explain Palpatine’s appearance in Dark Empire while keeping this consistency, I interpret it as a rogue clone of Palpatine who believes himself to be the true Palpatine, a clone who inherited his memories but is not the same person who died on the Second Death Star. To maintain this explanation, I exclude Dark Empire II and Empire’s End from my timeline, as they confirm that he is the same Palpatine from Return of the Jedi. Thankfully, the first Dark Empire comic is self-contained and doesn’t require its sequels to work as a standalone story.

Additionally, I omit all Expanded Universe material set after the New Jedi Order series. Later series like Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi introduce numerous Sith Lords — Darth Caedus, the Lost Tribe of the Sith, and Darth Krayt — who exist after the death of the Chosen One, which contradicts the Prophecy. On a personal note, I exclude these post-NJO stories also because I simply don’t enjoy them.

Lastly, I also leave out the SWTOR expansions from my Canon, as I feel they undermined the original game’s story, particularly through Vitiate’s repeated resurrections, which diminished the impact of the narrative.

Original unaltered trilogy
Thrawn trilogy of books
Holiday special

I really don’t get too caught up on what’s canon, and what’s not. And even if I don’t consider something in my personal canon does not mean I refuse to watch it. There are things about the other movies I really like (specifically TFA, which I would include if it didn’t contradict Heir to the Empire). This is just the stuff I consider to be the main story(and the best content) in my head. I’m yet to delve into more of the EU, but from what I’ve read, I anticipate liking it.

Ooh, maybe the Muppet show episode too

The entire “Legends” timeline.

Movies, comics, novels, TV and all.

EDIT: Wrong thread

Servii said:

I don’t really have a strict personal canon. For me, it’s more like “tiers” of canon, like what we used to have with the old EU. So here are my “tiers”:

A-tier: Unaltered Original Trilogy
B-tier: Prequel Trilogy, Special Editions, Movie Novelizations/Radio Dramas
C-tier: Good Expanded Universe stories
D-tier: Bad Expanded Universe stories
E-tier: Fan films/fiction

Disney canon is a separate entity, in my mind.

Much the same, though I’d place the novelizations in C-tier or their own tier.

I’m new to the forum, so I’m not sure where my take falls, but outside a few wins I’m really not a fan of what Disney has done with Star Wars. I was always a big lover of the EU; so my personal canon is really just ‘Legends’ and as much of TCW as can be fit without contradiction the original Clone Wars media project I grew up with.

I totally agree with that. I don’t like at all what Disney has done so far too, except for Rogue One (though I still don’t consider it strictly Canon). I also agree about TCW. I much prefer the Clone Wars Multimedia Project over TCW too.

The radio dramas are a good start. Episode III kind of fits in. I and II can work as spin-offs. And the sequel trilogy doesn’t count. Legends or Bust!

Moved from headcanon thread to here

This surely breaks up quite a bit of continuity.

paja said:

Moved from headcanon thread to here

This surely breaks up quite a bit of continuity.

I don’t think it makes much sense. I mean, if you don’t want to accept the Prequel Trilogy as it is, then you could accept the Attack of the Clones novelization as Episode I, then Labyrinth of Evil as Episode II and the Revenge of the Sith novelization as Episode III, plus the Clone Wars Multimedia Project. But accepting the Clone Wars Multimedia Project and at the same time TCW and The Bad Batch makes no sense, there are too many contradictions between these things.

EDIT: Never mind.

I sort of see the saga as having different “timelines.”

So for example, there’s the OT timeline which is just the OT, another is the OT and the Ewok movies. One has the PT, and the altered variants of the OT. One variant of that includes The Clone Wars (2008). Another variant is only altered OT + Solo.

Now for my “personal canon” I see it this way:
The Clone Wars (2008), Solo, custom altered OT, Ewoks.

I’ve also got one I like to use for EU stories I enjoy and it is as follows:
Custom altered OT, The Han Solo adventures by Brian Daley, Splinter of the Mind’s Eye, Shadows of the Empire, Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, The Jedi Academy Trilogy (?).

I don’t really like the idea of canon, I tend to just focus on what I do enjoy and pair it up with whatever fits thematically if that makes sense.

I still don’t have a personal canon. But if I did, it would include everything released 1976-1998, starting with the publication of the SW novelization, ending with the Hand of Thrawn duology. No prequels, no Yuuzhan Vong, no Darth Caedus or Krayt, and no Disney. Only Star Wars at its most organic and varied (though no less commercialized or messy).