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What if TFA is awful? — Page 11

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Just wondering out loud… Can any of you guys think about a situation where there comes a new SW movie that is actually better than any of the OT? Yeah, most likely won’t happen is what we’re thinking, but does that mean that we will not give them as movies even a chance? Having just seen TESB yesterday on a projector for the first time, it still is a perfect movie for me. It almost hurts my head to try even think about how you could top it, I actually have no idea how it would be possible. Everyone can have great ideas but all the stars would need to be aligned to make it perfect. If something similar ever happens, I think anthology films will have better chances if they’re done right.

And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.

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I think it’s a strong possibility that it’ll be better than ROTJ. Especially when the inevitable fanedit comes out which removes some of the more obnoxious visuals, or ‘Abramsisms’.

I can’t ever imagine it supplanting Empire, but you never know. I’m keeping an open mind, but curbing my optimism so I’m not too disappointed.

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LexX said:

Just wondering out loud… Can any of you guys think about a situation where there comes a new SW movie that is actually better than any of the OT?

For me, it’s impossible. Star Wars and Empire have been with me from birth and are ingrained in me. The characters, the locations, the story are all… part of me… that sounds lame, but I can’t find better words.
The new films have tons of potential to be good, even great, but they haven’t been with me as long. I’ve met new friends this year, but the storied past I have with others can’t be matched by someone new.

Ray’s Lounge
Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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LexX said:

Just wondering out loud… Can any of you guys think about a situation where there comes a new SW movie that is actually better than any of the OT?

Sure. In the seventies and eighties, sci-fi/fantasy was a niche market nobody was much interested in capitalizing on. Nowadays every other damn movie is sci-fi or fantasy. Sturgeon’s Law still applies, naturally – 90% of everything is crap – and with a much larger raw number of films, you’ve certainly got more crap today, but I feel you’ve also still got a better chance of great sci-fi/fantasy too, just from the increased numbers.

Heck, the prequels came out in the midst of a very good run of creative, well-written films that were groundbreaking in many ways. They just weren’t among them.

I love the OT in a sentimental sort of way, and maybe nothing will surpass it in that regard. But I’ve never considered any of them among my top ten favorite films. I find sci-fi/fantasy works that surpass the OT all the time. Firefly, for example, IMO. Could something that good end up in a new Star Wars film? Well, Sturgeon’s Law again says it’s unlikely, but not impossible.

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CatBus said:

LexX said:

Just wondering out loud… Can any of you guys think about a situation where there comes a new SW movie that is actually better than any of the OT?

Firefly, for example, IMO.

Agreed. And I’d even include Serenity.

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No, this film will not be better than any of the OOT. It is impossible for any film, let alone a Star Wars film, to be better than the OOT, or even have the same impact. The OOT’s quality is unassailable and its impact on popular culture incalculable.

Even if the newer films reach favorable critical consensus and are, objectively speaking, “good,” they can’t help but be influenced by what came before.

The OOT is perfect, never to be surpassed.

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Beacuse the OOT wasn’t influenced by anything.

Also, because ROTJ was perfect.

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The OOT came directly from God. It’s so holy, it should be considered the New New Testament.

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Bad news everybody. I dropped a test tube downstairs and accidentally opened a portal to OT2 (the forum in the universe where the PT was a solid improvement over the first two crappy movies and Revenge of the Jedi is the best of the original films) and Earth2 Bingo still isn’t pumped for TFA
I look really weird without a beard BTW nice bewbz though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Dp2OfIT_M

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Bingowings said:

Earth2 Bingo still isn’t pumped for TFA

That’s not hard to understand. After all, TFA2 will just return the franchise to the dregs the OOT2 was coughed up from.

“Happy Halloween, ladies!”

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If you insist TFA will be awful and you’ll hate it no matter what, well then you’re really no better than the fanboys who insist the prequels are good when they know damn well they aren’t; just blinded by your preconceived notions. Some people just want to hate anything that isn’t an OT re-release. I’m going into TFA with the mind of a child, and hopefully it can recapture some of the magic that the OT captured when I actually was a child. I don’t need it to be a masterpiece, I just want a fun adventure in the same universe with characters that feel real and not cardboard cut outs crapped on by Jar Jar Binks. I may love it, I may hate it, I may just like it, but I’m going to save judgement for when I see it.

What if it sucks? Well from what we’ve seen there is at least going to be decent material for fanedits.

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What if TFA isn’t awful? Will anyone on this site even notice? If they do, how will they handle it?

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There are already big warning signs for me

  1. The BB8 droid…Q. needed? A. No, we already have R2.

  2. Some of the creatures. Q. Its got Simon peg inside it so its cool. A. I don’t care and i’m not interested in celebs.

  3. Space ships battling above land (as seen in trailer) Q. Star Wars? A. Yes, indicates battles in SPACE.

  4. The title Q. couldn’t you think of anything else. A. The Force never went to sleep you thick c***

  5. Female protagonists Q. Haven’t we had enough of poor female characters in PT? A. Yes they added nothing!

  6. No Sith? Q: Isn’t there a darkside in Star Wars A. No, not anymore we have a new baddy though who like Siths WTF!!

So I fear a rehash of ANH and a bad one at that…Personally I’d rather see a release of the De-specialised versions!

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DarthJezmoz said:

  1. Female protagonists Q. Haven’t we had enough of poor female characters in PT? A. Yes they added nothing!

I hope this is a joke. If not, please leave this site forever.

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DominicCobb said:

DarthJezmoz said:

  1. Female protagonists Q. Haven’t we had enough of poor female characters in PT? A. Yes they added nothing!

I hope this is a joke. If not, please leave this site forever.

You’re talking about someone who apparently thinks the battle of Hoth didn’t take place over land and expecting anything that makes sense?

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DominicCobb said:

DarthJezmoz said:

  1. Female protagonists Q. Haven’t we had enough of poor female characters in PT? A. Yes they added nothing!

I hope this is a joke. If not, please leave this site forever.

PT=Prequel trilogy (padme and the one that looked the same) and yes whilst they weren’t true protagonists they had a lot of wasted screen time, but on reflection the whole PT was so so far from the OT. I wasn’t having a dig at Leia 😉

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DominicCobb said:

DarthJezmoz said:

  1. Female protagonists Q. Haven’t we had enough of poor female characters in PT? A. Yes they added nothing!

I hope this is a joke. If not, please leave this site forever.

PT=Prequel trilogy (padme and the one that looked the same) and yes whilst they weren’t true protagonists they had a lot of wasted screen time, but on reflection the whole PT was wasted film never mind screen time. I wasn’t having a dig at Leia 😉

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DarthJezmoz said:

DominicCobb said:

DarthJezmoz said:

  1. Female protagonists Q. Haven’t we had enough of poor female characters in PT? A. Yes they added nothing!

I hope this is a joke. If not, please leave this site forever.

PT=Prequel trilogy (padme and the one that looked the same) and yes whilst they weren’t true protagonists they had a lot of wasted screen time, but on reflection the whole PT was wasted film never mind screen time. I wasn’t having a dig at Leia 😉

It’s sad that you think that the term “PT” was what needed addressing about your post. Not, y’know, the misogyny.

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towne32 said:

DominicCobb said:

DarthJezmoz said:

  1. Female protagonists Q. Haven’t we had enough of poor female characters in PT? A. Yes they added nothing!

I hope this is a joke. If not, please leave this site forever.

You’re talking about someone who apparently thinks the battle of Hoth didn’t take place over land and expecting anything that makes sense?

The battle of Hoth had NO x wings involved! If they had used a different craft I may have excepted it. It looks ridiculous IMO

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brash_stryker said:

DarthJezmoz said:

DominicCobb said:

DarthJezmoz said:

  1. Female protagonists Q. Haven’t we had enough of poor female characters in PT? A. Yes they added nothing!

I hope this is a joke. If not, please leave this site forever.

PT=Prequel trilogy (padme and the one that looked the same) and yes whilst they weren’t true protagonists they had a lot of wasted screen time, but on reflection the whole PT was wasted film never mind screen time. I wasn’t having a dig at Leia 😉

It’s sad that you think that the term “PT” was what needed addressing about your post. Not, y’know, the misogyny.

Are you for real? Wooden acting and shite character development doesn’t mean I’m a misogynist