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darth_ender said:

Not that question!!!  The question about whether or not you liked my thread.  I made it in honor of you.  I tried so hard to emulate your style, but I just couldn't quite get it.  What do you think????  Does it do you justice???  Does it make you smile??????  Do you think Bill Will is a Herculean demigod as well?????

Once more again, how did You U--know that it was me-aka ie/and/or the one and only-FS father skywalker=yellow spandexed wolverine????

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I can honestly say that I've answered your question (albeit perhaps too subtly for you) in almost every response to you.  If you can't figure it out, keep rereading till you find your answer.

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darth_ender said:

I can honestly say that I've answered your question (albeit perhaps too subtly for you) in almost every response to you.  If you can't figure it out, keep rereading till you find your answer.

How did you U-know that it was me???? On the Rebelscum forums, my duplicate account was recognized right away, on that/the Twitter website, meh, not so much. On the Force.net/the jedi council forums, right away my duplicate account was caughtand&recognized, not even by moderators or administrators. WHY?????

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Are you using a laptop?  Do you have a webcam pointed at you?

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We're all watching you on your webcam.  We all have a direct link to your computer and take a peek whenever we get a notification that you posted.

For archival purposes, I'll quote myself here:

darth_ender said:

Gosh, I wish I had all day to chase you around the forum, responding to all your ridiculous posts.  I have stuff to do.  Good day, my friend!  We probably won't chat again, at least, not with you as YubNubGuy.  Drop me a line with your next identity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oh great, he's back again. So you went from Farter Skywanker to BumRubGuy.

How many accounts are you going to make, and then get banned with? In fact the last time i saw someone doing this exact same thing was JediTray. Could this be the return of the tray? And hadn't he been banned from the same sites that farter_skywalker_BumRubGuy claims he has been?

Well, it won't be long before we will see yet another account from you because you're going to get banned again. Maybe if you had waited for a reply from the mods before making your multiple accounts, you may have stood a better chance of getting back on these forums, but what you are doing is only going to piss the Mods off even more.

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adywan said:

Oh great, he's back again. So you went from Farter Skywanker to BumRubGuy.

How many accounts are you going to make, and then get banned with? In fact the last time i saw someone doing this exact same thing was JediTray. Could this be the return of the tray? And hadn't he been banned from the same sites that farter_skywalker_BumRubGuy claims he has been?

Well, it won't be long before we will see yet another account from you because you're going to get banned again. Maybe if you had waited for a reply from the mods before making your multiple accounts, you may have stood a better chance of getting back on these forums, but what you are doing is only going to piss the Mods off even more.

Adywan, even if I try to act like a completley different user and a completley different person here (this happened on the rebelscum forums too), people still recognize me immediatley. Why is that????

Also, witch/which websites has JediTray been banned from????

Rebelscum forums is the most stupidest website that I've have ever ever. they blocked totally 100% from their/the website, they've have had even blocked me even from reading those forums and the threads and the posts, not just from posting. On Twitter, I was banned for making a duplicate account. I aint exactly sure why I was banned the first time from/on Twitter, and I dind't feel like waiting another week or a two weeks or a few more weeks for a response to my unban rquest, so there Ya Go, I've have a made a new Twitter account, witch/which is banned too!!!!!

I was falsely accused of trolling from this original trilogy forum website. I've have already posted and mentioned that my intention was not to troll or to flame or to spam. I've have already emailed these website administrators/moderators, but they take too so long, forever, if ever to respond, so I've have created a new duplicate account as a very quick and a very easy way to send a private message to a moderator/administator that is here, without sending an email to the website administrator/moderator.

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YubNubGuy said:

adywan said:

Oh great, he's back again. So you went from Farter Skywanker to BumRubGuy.

How many accounts are you going to make, and then get banned with? In fact the last time i saw someone doing this exact same thing was JediTray. Could this be the return of the tray? And hadn't he been banned from the same sites that farter_skywalker_BumRubGuy claims he has been?

Well, it won't be long before we will see yet another account from you because you're going to get banned again. Maybe if you had waited for a reply from the mods before making your multiple accounts, you may have stood a better chance of getting back on these forums, but what you are doing is only going to piss the Mods off even more.

Adywan, even if I try to act like a completley different user and a completley different person here (this happened on the rebelscum forums too), people still recognize me immediatley. Why is that????

Also, witch/which websites has JediTray been banned from????

Rebelscum forums is the most stupidest website that I've have ever ever. they blocked totally 100% from their/the website, they've have had even blocked me even from reading those forums and the threads and the posts, not just from posting. On Twitter, I was banned for making a duplicate account. I aint exactly sure why I was banned the first time from/on Twitter, and I dind't feel like waiting another week or a two weeks or a few more weeks for a response to my unban rquest, so there Ya Go, I've have a made a new Twitter account, witch/which is banned too!!!!!

I was falsely accused of trolling from this original trilogy forum website. I've have already posted and mentioned that my intention was not to troll or to flame or to spam. I've have already emailed these website administrators/moderators, but they take too so long, forever, if ever to respond, so I've have created a new duplicate account as a very quick and a very easy way to send a private message to a moderator/administator that is here, without sending an email to the website administrator/moderator.

Why would we bother telling you exactly how we know that all these accounts are you, when we enjoy watching you freak out so much trying to figure out how we did it?Seriously, it isn't very hard to figure out how. So let me enlighten you;

When you join a forum a small piece of computer code is installed onto your computer and also at your ISP's main hub. So, this way, if you use a different computer, your identity is still known. This small piece of code cannot be removed as it is updated every time you log onto your internet. The code is also Ai, so if you use somebody else's internet connection is can learn within a few moments that it is you by secretly accessing the computers webcam or and camera monitor on a LAN and uses facial recognition software to determine that it is you.  This type of internet monitoring was introduced in most countries, without any public knowledge, in mid 2005. It is called the Tactical Recognition Of Logical LAN, better known by its acronym . No websites are able to opt out of this and many of these infiltrate websites without their knowledge, but can easily be identified and eradicated, only to have another crop up

 

If you made the new accounts solely to contact the mods much easier then why are you posting in threads? Wouldn't it have been better to just be patient?

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YubNubGuy said:

I was falsely accused of trolling from this original trilogy forum website.

You're still making image-only posts. Did you even bother to read the rules?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

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adywan said:

If you made the new accounts solely to contact the mods much easier then why are you posting in threads?

Amazingly, he has already written 30 posts as YubNubGuy.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

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I admit to pushing him to write as many as possible :D  I've got lots of new material for my Bill Will thread now!

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darth_ender said:

I admit to pushing him to write as many as possible :D  I've got lots of new material for my Bill Will thread now!

Many of my silly posts that I've have/had written today which many other users would probably interpert as trollish/spamming/flaming are just responses to you. We are R joking around with each other!!!!!

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AntcuFaalb said:

YubNubGuy said:

I was falsely accused of trolling from this original trilogy forum website.

You're still making image-only posts. Did you even bother to read the rules?

Yeah, I think it's obvious he'll be banned in short order.

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adywan said:

How many accounts are you going to make, and then get banned with? In fact the last time i saw someone doing this exact same thing was JediTray. Could this be the return of the tray? And hadn't he been banned from the same sites that farter_skywalker_BumRubGuy claims he has been?

Based on posting style, I think it's more likely this guy.

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TV's Frink said:

adywan said:

How many accounts are you going to make, and then get banned with? In fact the last time i saw someone doing this exact same thing was JediTray. Could this be the return of the tray? And hadn't he been banned from the same sites that farter_skywalker_BumRubGuy claims he has been?

Based on posting style, I think it's more likely this guy.

No. It aint me!!!!!!!!!!

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YubNubGuy said:

This picture sucks. No, more than that, it fucking sucks. It defiles the entire EU - past, present, and future - with its very existence. This picture wiped out the dinosaurs. Every murderer who has ever existed has been retroactively inspired by this picture. When this picture was created, the cosmos compensated by introducing entropy into the universe. And, more than anything, it proves that God doesn't exist, that even if He did exist, He would be purely, unambiguously - even from His own point of view - evil.

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The last two pages read like an unfunny drunk text/trolling web page.

In other news...

DuracellEnergizer said:

This picture sucks. No, more than that, it fucking sucks. It defiles the entire EU - past, present, and future - with its very existence. This picture wiped out the dinosaurs. Every murderer who has ever existed has been retroactively inspired by this picture. When this picture was created, the cosmos compensated by introducing entropy into the universe. And, more than anything, it proves that God doesn't exist, that even if He did exist, He would be purely, unambiguously - even from His own point of view - evil.
What are you getting at?

All I really want is each film as it was originally seen and heard in theaters; no fixes, corrections, "improvements" or modifications necessary.

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NeverarGreat said:


I am simply bewildered that so many people say that Zahn understands Star Wars better than Lucas. Zahn never tells us anything new about the Force, doesn't really force any of the primary cast to change

Thrawn and Mara Jade seemed to be the only characters that he cared about

I suppose it's all about what a person wants from a novel and what you consider understanding Star Wars. If it's strictly the magic of the journey from 1977, I feel like Zahn understands it much better than Lucas.  If it's Tolkienesque mythology - that's all Lucas.

I wanted something more than the tired rehash of Jedi v Sith.  I didn't find that stuff even remotely interesting in the one prequel I saw, so I certainly didn't want to read any novels about it.  I wouldn't have bothered.

Correct on Zahn not delving into, or explaining, the Force.  I loved it's mystery in 1977, so I enjoy its continued mystical properties in the Zahn novels.  I'd much rather have it be an unknown magical property that only some people can feel - instead of Lucas' heavy-handed over explanation of how it can simply be measured with a Lady Gillette and then discussed ad nauseum in some chamber of elders.

Also correct on Mara and Thrawn being the focus of several of his novels.  He invented those characters, so it stands to reason he'd write about them more often.

Regarding character development;  I'd agree that Han & Leia go through very little of it in his novels.  However, they don't figure into his stories much beyond vehicle, so they don't need to have lengthy novels about personal growth. That, by the way, is fine with me because I don't find either character to be very interesting.  Luke is a continuation of, and maturing of, the character he was in Return.  I think his character growth is realistic.

On a related note;  To me, Zahn understands and handles Lando far better than Lucas.  The novels where he figures into the story are some of the best of Zahn's work.

Mara receives the bulk of the growth through the years.  We see her from the time she's 18 to around the age of forty and her character is wildly different as she grows and matures through the years. I enjoy her stories more than any of the others.  I particularly like her depth when she's older.

If you dig the Sith\Jedi arc, there appears to be shelf after shelf of it in the book stores.  Compared to what I seek out in EU, it's much more popular.  It's not what I'd prefer, but I expect the Disney films to go in that direction.

 

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NeverarGreat said:


I am simply bewildered that so many people say that Zahn understands Star Wars better than Lucas. Zahn never tells us anything new about the Force, doesn't really force any of the primary cast to change

Thrawn and Mara Jade seemed to be the only characters that he cared about

I suppose it's all about what a person wants from a novel and what you consider understanding Star Wars. If it's strictly the magic of the journey from 1977, I feel like Zahn understands it much better than Lucas.  If it's Tolkienesque mythology - that's all Lucas.

I wanted something more than the tired rehash of Jedi v Sith.  I didn't find that stuff even remotely interesting in the one prequel I saw, so I certainly didn't want to read any novels about it.  I wouldn't have bothered.

Correct on Zahn not delving into, or explaining, the Force.  I loved it's mystery in 1977, so I enjoy its continued mystical properties in the Zahn novels.  I'd much rather have it be an unknown magical property that only some people can feel - instead of Lucas' heavy-handed over explanation of how it can simply be measured with a Lady Gillette and then discussed ad nauseum in some chamber of elders.

Also correct on Mara and Thrawn being the focus of several of his novels.  He invented those characters, so it stands to reason he'd write about them more often.

Regarding character development;  I'd agree that Han & Leia go through very little of it in his novels.  However, they don't figure into his stories much beyond vehicle, so they don't need to have lengthy novels about personal growth. That, by the way, is fine with me because I don't find either character to be very interesting.  Luke is a continuation of, and maturing of, the character he was in Return.  I think his character growth is realistic.

On a related note;  To me, Zahn understands and handles Lando far better than Lucas.  The novels where he figures into the story are some of the best of Zahn's work.

Mara receives the bulk of the growth through the years.  We see her from the time she's 18 to around the age of forty and her character is wildly different as she grows and matures through the years. I enjoy her stories more than any of the others.  I particularly like her depth when she's older.

If you dig the Sith\Jedi arc, there appears to be shelf after shelf of it in the book stores.  Compared to what I seek out in EU, it's much more popular.  It's not what I'd prefer, but I expect the Disney films to go in that direction.

 

I don't care for Jedi vs Sith either. Personally I don't consider the idea of the Sith to even be canon, even if it was mentioned in the novelization. However, each of the original movies showed a different aspect of the Force, which is what made it so interesting. The idea of battle meditation was interesting, but it also felt like a retcon of a perfectly cinematic situation in order to make it satisfying from a tactical standpoint.

On the subject of the original characters, if they weren't going to change, why have them in the story at all? I like the military aspect of Zahn's books, and if he did a sequel trilogy focused purely on the battles with his created characters, then I think it would be a much more interesting story. But people need to see our heroes plastered on the covers of EU books for them to be sold.

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Taking those 3 visual adventure movies and making grown up airport books out of them was a really neat trick that Zahn pulled off, it shouldn't have worked but it did. But it feels like a trick you can only do once and I haven't been able to finish a Star Wars book since then. The Han Solo Ocean's 11 book sounds like a good new angle, it may be the first one I buy in years.

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Review.  No spoilers

A short story to introduce us to a few of the characters in the upcoming novel Scoundrels.  I'm a big fan of Zahn's Lando.  On that note, Lando is really all there is to tie this to anything Star Wars, or anything space-related for that matter.

The story begins and ends at a card tournament, taking place over a couple of days.  There are four main characters; Lando, twin sisters who are just casual acquaintances of his, and a friend of theirs who Lando doesn't know.

Without giving anything away, they collaborate on a theft that escalates after the first day.  This is a dialogue-driven, cerebral story as opposed to any sort of space flight, battles, good vs evil, etc.  That's what I enjoy most about Zahn's more recent EU.  He goes outside of established Star Wars and gives us new people in new places.

The story ends with a nod to how their paths may cross again someday, which is obviously Scoundrels.  Anyway, that's it.  A light read, which I enjoyed.

 

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Good review! Sounds like a good read, I haven't had a chance to read any of Zahn's stuff yet but I might have to check it out now. :)