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Dek Rollins said:

Lord Haseo said:

Dek Rollins said:

and so silly

I disagree. I’d love to know why you think that way though.

They felt like the PT. That’s the easiest way to explain it.

I think that’s just due to the CGI being a bit shoddy. If the CGI was more convincing or there was a combination of CGI and practical effects it wouldn’t feel that way. But I see where you’re coming from.

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It’s not a helicopter!

And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.

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She does have thrusters on her belly and could be venting all sorts of things we can’t see on her final approach. That looks more like a pressure wave anyway.

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Where were you in '77?

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SilverWook said:

She does have thrusters on her belly and could be venting all sorts of things we can’t see on her final approach. That looks more like a pressure wave anyway.

Pressure waves don’t start at the front of the ship.

And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.

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Find a video of a real spaceship swooping down low over a lake, and that will settle the matter. 😉

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Where were you in '77?

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SilverWook said:

Find a video of a real spaceship swooping down low over a lake, and that will settle the matter. 😉

Exactly, you do that to prove me wrong.

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well here you go, and these are supersonic while Falcon is slowing down:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWGLAAYdbbc

Good enough for you?

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Nerd alert.

Seriously, who could possibly care? There’s no sound in space either. It’s a movie, not a documentary.

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Also there’s no fiery explosions in space either. But I bet no one gives a shit about that too.

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Actually, the fiery explosions come from the fuel and oxygen inside the pressurized ship. Now, that doesn’t mean the way it occurs in the films is completely realistic.

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This reminds me of the “where are the toilets in Star Wars?” thread.

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Dek Rollins said:

Actually, the fiery explosions come from the fuel and oxygen inside the pressurized ship. Now, that doesn’t mean the way it occurs in the films is completely realistic.

I guess you could say the plasma would have something to do with it too but I am lead to believe that the vacuum of space would negate any sort of reaction. Also speaking of plasma, any advanced civilization would know that heavy objects propelled at high speed would be more effective than any laser. But blaster bolts and what not look cool.

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Sorry to be so blunt, but these new screenshots from the blu-ray do highlight I was right all along on TFA’s color grading being like christmas lights, while others said it wasn’t the case: “pictures taken by a phone”, “not final grading”, “a quick and dirty job done just for the trailer”, right right :\
In a way, TFA really is no different from the PT in its terrible use of over-saturated colors (with the exception of TPM’s theatrical grading).

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Dek Rollins said:

Haha! You mean that silly CG crap that hurt my eyes for three minutes and added nothing to any sense of peril?

I thought I was watching GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY the whole sequence, and from me it’s no compliment (at least for the arena scene of EpII now I think “ok, it’s going John Carter, not good and fake looking but I get it”). Han Solo is so dumb in this entire scene… the character was already badly damaged in RETURN OF THE JEDI, this scene was the final blow at his dignity (and his interactions with a CGI Princess Leia was even worse. Kylo kills him with mercy I believe “father, what have you become ?”).

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MalàStrana said:

Dek Rollins said:

Haha! You mean that silly CG crap that hurt my eyes for three minutes and added nothing to any sense of peril?

Han Solo is so dumb in this entire scene

Here we go again…Elaborate please

this scene was the final blow at his dignity

It was a similar scene to the Greedo scene in STAR WARS. Both establish that Han’s an unreliable person who doesn’t pay his debts. I don’t really see the problem.

Kylo kills him with mercy I believe “father, what have you become ?”

I have read this sentence at least 8 times and I haven’t the slightest idea at what you’re trying to get at.

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“Han Solo is so ruined by TFA, thank god he was put out of his misery.”

I assume.

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TV’s Frink said:

Seriously, who could possibly care? There’s no sound in space either. It’s a movie, not a documentary.

Yeah Silverwook, he wants you to calm down.

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LexX said:

TV’s Frink said:

Seriously, who could possibly care? There’s no sound in space either. It’s a movie, not a documentary.

Yeah Silverwook, he wants you to calm down.

WRONG TARGET

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Those pressure waves ruined the whole movie for me. Thanks Jar Jar Abrams…

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TV’s Frink said:

LexX said:

TV’s Frink said:

Seriously, who could possibly care? There’s no sound in space either. It’s a movie, not a documentary.

Yeah Silverwook, he wants you to calm down.

WRONG TARGET

Of course mods are not your targets, ever. 😉

I just posted a pic, not my fault people are attacking left and right on my OPINIONS of just a MOVIE. Sorry if it got to your feelings.

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Those pressure waves ruined the whole movie for me. Thanks Jar Jar Abrams…

Over-react much? This is a weird thread, better lock it down if someone doesn’t like something in the movie, OMG!

And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.

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LexX said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Those pressure waves ruined the whole movie for me. Thanks Jar Jar Abrams…

Over-react much? This is a weird thread, better lock it down if someone doesn’t like something in the movie, OMG!

What?

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TV’s Frink said:

“Han Solo is so ruined by TFA, thank god he was put out of his misery.”

I assume.

This was to happen one day or another: TV’s Fink is right, he did understand something I wrote.

As for the “establishing that Han is unreliable blablabla” it is the worst excuse I have ever read to defend this terrible scene. Establishing a character that has been around an entire trilogy before that to show him doing exactly the same shit (75 yo smuggler, stealling from martial artist asian space cowboy bebop dudes), which does not add anything to the story (ok he’s “unreliable”, so… ?)… with crappy cgi monsters… in a scene where he’s more a goofy GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY protogonist than the legendary Han Solo… “back to square one, old dude”. This movie is so dumb… its dumbness never stops ! They should never have brought back the old cast, completely new and unrelated characters was the thing to do… “you should not have come back, Han !”, “if you kill me, Ren, I’ll… well, I’ll just die because I know nothing of the Force so… hum… why am I doing here again ?”

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MalàStrana said:
Establishing a character that has been around an entire trilogy before that to show him doing exactly the same shit which does not add anything to the story

I guess you were dosing off when he told Leia “I went back to the only thing I was good at”. So in a sense it does add to the story because it shows what part of the effect Kylo Ren had on him.

75 yo smuggler, stealling from martial artist asian space cowboy bebop dudes

They never used Martial Arts though…that can be considered racist in some circles lol

in a scene where he’s more a goofy GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY protogonist than the legendary Han Solo…

He seemed like good ol’ Han to me. Trying to talk his way out of certain death, making wise cracks and when one of them sees BB-8 and assumes Rey and Finn are on board he tries to save them by acting as if they didn’t exist. Sounds like Han to me.

“if you kill me, Ren, I’ll… well, I’ll just die because I know nothing of the Force so… hum… why am I doing here again ?”

To save his son genius. To save his son.

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LexX said:
not my fault people are attacking left and right on my OPINIONS of just a MOVIE. Sorry if it got to your feelings.

Over-react much? This is a weird thread, better lock it down if someone doesn’t like something in the movie, OMG!

Seems like you’re the one who’s in your feelings mate.

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Lord Haseo said:

He seemed like good ol’ Han to me. Trying to talk his way out of certain death, making wise cracks and when one of them sees BB-8 and assumes Rey and Finn are on board he tries to save them by acting as if they didn’t exist. Sounds like Han to me.

I’m not saying one shouldn’t change his behavior in his life, but I myself think in that scene he acts more like some kind of comedian than the cold-blooded cowboy of the OT, the one who shoots first, asks questions later. He should’ve just said “Boring conversation anyway” and blasted his way to the Falcon 😄 , instead it reminds me of his deleted line in ROTJ, that is Han trying to do an Indiana Jones’ impression or something :\

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