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Watching star wars - frame-by-frame slow motion : Cool stuff

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ok,

after describing every single shot

in star wars: (need this for a project)

it took about a week to go through it

with breaks..

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/frame-data--star-wars-GOUT-NTSC-widescreen/topic/9567/

 

i realized there's a lot of cool stuff

in star wars that most people have never seen.

(well at least, i've never seen them before)

 

maybe it doesn't count as watching it.

because basically, you're stepping through

all the shots.

 

i'm NOT talking about bloopers, or continuity stuff,

colors, or cropping issues either..

 

but weird things on the screens, strange symbols,

reflections of the crew..

 

i like the greedo dummy 1 frame:

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i'm sure there's lot of other cool things 

in there if you look..

 

later

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It looks like there's a gigantic teddy bear in the background there.

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I first saw dummy Greedo in 1988, when I rented the Japanese CAV Laserdisc from a video store in L.A. that is sadly long gone now. Great fun running the explosions backwards and forwards, in super slow motion too. It bugs me Blu Ray can't really do that stuff.

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How many have noticed this one?

 

3po and r2 are crossing the corridor on the tantive and getting shot at from both sides by the rebels and the stormtroopers.  They both make it to the other side just as a laser blast explodes near the doorway they just entered.  In this exact second the blast hits there is a few frames missing.  If you look at the troopers and toggle back and forth during the laser blast you'll see them all standing and shooting in one frame and the very next frame a couple are laying on the ground and the others are all in totally different positions.

Yeah I guess that's a continuity error but still one of those things you'd never see unless you stepped through frame by frame.

Luke threw twice…maybe.

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Given what we know now about the way Star Wars was assembled in the editing room, it's probably a bit of editorial slight of hand, like the extension of the Tusken Raider shot.

They also probably didn't want Anthony Daniels and Kenny Baker too close when the explosion was set off.

And now I'll have to go looking for that shot. ;)

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Agree that this is best done on LD. Especially with a player that has varying speeds of reverse/ff. Then you can have lightsaber battles slapstick style!

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captainsolo said:

Agree that this is best done on LD. Especially with a player that has varying speeds of reverse/ff. Then you can have lightsaber battles slapstick style!

 actually, it's even easier nowadays.

any video editting program can do it..

i use virtualdubmod, and avidemux.

 

you can use the arrow keys. left goes back,

and right goes forward.

 

another way, is just export a short video sequence

to images. and use an image viewer (i use irfanview)

to go back and forth through them..

 

poor mans animation...  from the sequences i posted.

if you scroll up and down in the browser. you can

*almost* animate the sequence. scroll faster or

slower.

 

later

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SilverWook said:


I first saw dummy Greedo in 1988, when I rented the Japanese CAV Laserdisc from a video store in L.A. that is sadly long gone now. Great fun running the explosions backwards and forwards, in super slow motion too. It bugs me Blu Ray can't really do that stuff.


Blu ray can TOTALLY do that! My PS3 does it great. You just have to find the buttons. if you have a PS3 one fo the joysticks on the regular controller (can't remember if it's the left or right) can be "rolled" around in a circle, forwards or backwards to play the movie forward or backward & vary the speed (slow or fast) by how much you roll it. Or you can pause the movie & play with the fast forward or rewind (NOT the skip) buttons to step frame by frame or play in slow-mo. You push the button once to step-frame or hold it down to start the continuous slow-mo. It works very much like a good laserdisc player, but you can do it with bluray which is freaking awesome!

I've had dvd players that also could do this quite well.

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I've tried it with the SW Blu Rays, and you can't even still step more than a few frames without the chapter/timeline thingy popping up, and you can't advance any further. About the only Blu I can even do that with was Metropolis, (the Moroder cut) and that may have something to do with the lack of Java crap on the disc.

DVD's on my Panasonic Blu Ray player have no such problems. In fact I can still/step backwards and forward better with it than my DVD player can.

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yup, tried it with the star wars bluray

on a ps3..

 

didn't work well at all...

 

it's much better using the digital files..

 

STUPID SONY #*$#^##&*#*@@

 

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Hmm, it sounds more like an issue of how the disc is programmed than how bluray works. I don't own the star wars blu's but it works on the discs I've tried. At any rate, bluray technology is certainly capable of doing step frame or slow mo & it sounds like it's a matter of how the manufacturer programs the disc as to how well it works.

It figures lucasfilm would program them in such a way as to make it a pain... *rolls eyes*

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You_Too said:

You know, if you wanna have some stuff to check frame by frame, read IMDB's part of this page "Revealing mistakes": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/trivia?tab=gf

There's a lot of stuff listed there.

 

yeah, i've seen some of those listed.

haven't checked the SE stuff.

but some of the original stuff would

be interesting to see how visible they are.

 

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ray_afraid said:


I used to love watching Alderaan being destroyed frame-by-frame. The laser blast from the DS  splinters and reaches around the planet almost like fingers. Very cool effect. I dunno if it's the same in the SE. I was using the original VHS.
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Nope, they changed it so now the laser "ignites the atmosphere".

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negative1 said:

ok,

after describing every single shot

in star wars: (need this for a project)

it took about a week to go through it

with breaks..

=========================

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/frame-data--star-wars-GOUT-NTSC-widescreen/topic/9567/

 

i realized there's a lot of cool stuff

in star wars that most people have never seen.

(well at least, i've never seen them before)

 

maybe it doesn't count as watching it.

because basically, you're stepping through

all the shots.

 

i'm NOT talking about bloopers, or continuity stuff,

colors, or cropping issues either..

 

but weird things on the screens, strange symbols,

reflections of the crew..

 

i like the greedo dummy 1 frame:

------------------------------------------

 

 

i'm sure there's lot of other cool things 

in there if you look..

 

later

-1

here's a better version of the dummy.. ha ha

 

will be looking for more cool things soon!

later

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Now that we've gone through the movie, frame by frame. Some updates and cool shots would neat, if we have the time to do them.

If you see some, please feel free to post your discoveries also.

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