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Obi-Wan met Threepio. Watch A New Hope, Obi-Wan has no clue who Threepio is...but now he does.
Which is the more foolish, the fool (the OT) or the fool who follows (the PT)?

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Originally posted by: Perfect 5th
Wow! You have pretty much covered the terrain already, and I agree with most of what y'all said. Let me just add a fantasy comment: since Ani's "conversion" seems to happen a bit too fast for most of us (destroying all the oh-so-important subtlety and richness of the most crucial aspect of this long-awaited PT), and since we would have enjoyed seeing a bit more Vader/Han/Tarkin/etc. (which would also have helped the transition to ANH), don't you find it even more frustrating now to have gone through all the useless rubbish in TPM? I mean, we almost could have started directly with AOTC with a few adjustments, no? (That WOULD make Qui-Gon/Darth Maul pretty much unnecessary, though, I guess. But also kid-Ani, whom I do not care for.) What do you think?


ever since coming to terms with the sucktitude of the first film i have thought that TPM was a gigantic waiste of time.

Ep II should have ended with the obi ani fight. It could have been made so that obi thinks he is dead, and then baddabing, Vader in his suite comes on the scene for the final movie. Thats the sama version at least...
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Originally posted by: Perfect 5th
Wow! You have pretty much covered the terrain already, and I agree with most of what y'all said. Let me just add a fantasy comment: since Ani's "conversion" seems to happen a bit too fast for most of us (destroying all the oh-so-important subtlety and richness of the most crucial aspect of this long-awaited PT), and since we would have enjoyed seeing a bit more Vader/Han/Tarkin/etc. (which would also have helped the transition to ANH), don't you find it even more frustrating now to have gone through all the useless rubbish in TPM? I mean, we almost could have started directly with AOTC with a few adjustments, no? (That WOULD make Qui-Gon/Darth Maul pretty much unnecessary, though, I guess. But also kid-Ani, whom I do not care for.) What do you think?


Thats exactly it. Lucas has already showed what can be accomplished with one movie.
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Yeah but it still sucked. These films are the suckiest sucks that ever sucked. GL should have let someone else direct, write and produce them, he could have just sat back and collected his money, which is what he really wants anyways, he doesn't give a shit about Star Wars or the fans.
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If Anakin can yell and breathe on the operating table why does he need a breathing mask to live?
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Originally posted by: Anakin's Mannequin



Only C3PO's memory was wiped. When Organa issues the command, he only mentions it for the "protocol droid". Which also explains why R2D2 was so determined to get to Obi Wan in A New Hope.


OK so why didn't R2 tell him everything later? He promised not to?
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Originally posted by: Anakin's Mannequin
Only C3PO's memory was wiped. When Organa issues the command, he only mentions it for the "protocol droid". Which also explains why R2D2 was so determined to get to Obi Wan in A New Hope.

OK so why didn't R2 tell him everything later? He promised not to?

C-3PO is pretty irresponsible and has diarreah of the mouth, willing to surrender at any turn. R2, on the other hand, can be trusted with the friggin plans to the Death Star. I always wondered if Lucas would not wipe R2's memory and I'm glad he didn't. I've always figured that the story we know was preserved by R2. The threat of his memory being wiped by Owen threatens to do more than lose the Death Star plans.
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As I've always said, Artoo is the main hero of Starwars. He's always saving the good guys collective butt from something or another. In TMP, the ship, in AOTC the hot metal.... You know.

I think that Guiness's performance was just nuanced enough that you can read familiarity with the droids into it. Really, in Episodes 2 and 3 he wasn't around Threepio all that much.. .and stuff.

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there was a lack of giving your fan base the benefit of the doubt( not everything had to be explained )

Really? Over at TFN, and I see some of it repeated here, a few people are picking apart all the 6 movies and calling plotholes left and right because they read the films literally, as if they all take place in 6 days, without giving credit to the fact that events offscreen may have explained some of the things.

Hayden in Vader suit, acting as a fool. DAVID PROWSE should be there. He deserves it.

Can he even fit into the suit?
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
In order of how much they bothered me:



#2) Anakin saying "What have I done?" after allowing Mace to get killed. This weakens his transformation to Vader a hundred-fold.

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I was trying to pin-point what it was that really ruined the transition, but I never even thought of this! You are SO right...
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
In order of how much they bothered me:

#2) Anakin saying "What have I done?" after allowing Mace to get killed. This weakens his transformation to Vader a hundred-fold.




Actually, I quite liked this bit. It showed that Annakin was torn and for a moment I thought his transformation to the dark side would be well paced and subtle, but the next minute he was on his knees in front of Palpatine (pun intended).

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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
In order of how much they bothered me:

#1) The incongruity between Padme's death and Leia remembering her in ROTJ.


A lot of people seem to miss the point here...This is on various threads, but let me point something out here.

Luke "Do you remember your Mother? Your real Mother?

Leia " Just a little. She died when I was very young"

Luke "What do you remember?"

Leia "Just images really, feelings"


So what happened in Sith DOES make sense.
I don't see any problem there!




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Yep, i with him.
"A Jedi can feel the force flow through him".
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Originally posted by: HotRod

A lot of people seem to miss the point here...This is on various threads, but let me point something out here.

Luke "Do you remember your Mother? Your real Mother?

Leia " Just a little. She died when I was very young"

Luke "What do you remember?"

Leia "Just images really, feelings"


So what happened in Sith DOES make sense.
I don't see any problem there!


But don't forget the last line....

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Leia "She was very beautiful. Kind, but...sad. (looks up) Why are you asking me all this?"


Seriously, this could go either way and we're each going to interpret it in our own way. Perhaps GL will elaborate his feelings on the matter in the audio commentary on the ROTS dvd.
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I have to agree that most of what's been posted did make the film a bit less impactful, but I had some other problems as well:

-I felt that the way Mace Windu dies was a cheap way out and did nothing but reduce the character's powers and abilities, especially when you consider how long Emperor Palpatine fry's Luke in ROTJ and he survives. I think that we should have seen him thrown out of Palpatine's window and follow him down to a passing vehicle where he grabs on much like Anakin in AOTC. By having him escape like this they could have had a final confrontation on the bridge of Vader’s Star Destroyer and let everyone watch Vader kill Mace Windu there. Much more honorable to that awesome character and a more resounding ending to the film, showing Vader's complete confidence and domination of the Force.

-I thought that there was a scene with Obi Wan communing with Qui Gon, and now that I know that it exists I too am pissed that it wasn't shown in the film proper. It would more appropriately bridge the films and give us that much more insight into how Obi Wan vanishes into the force in ANH.

-For the record, it was never spoken in the film that Padme died of a broken heart! The line was, "We don't know why, but she's lost the will to live." I don't think that her death hurts the Leia line latter on about her mother because her memory was of a sad mother figure that she barely remembers, and that could just as easily be Bale Organa's wife she's remembering.

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[Obi-Wan met Threepio. Watch A New Hope, Obi-Wan has no clue who Threepio is...but now he does.]

I disagree! He knows exactly who C-3PO is but is unwilling to divulge his knowledge because it would give Luke too many questions before he was ready to handle them. Also since C-3PO's memory was wiped it facilitates this much more fluidly. If you think about it, R2-D2 is doing the exact same thing and has been for 20 years or so at that point since his memory is still intact. He won't tell C-3PO who Leia is or where the message he is carrying came from.

-And yes I felt that Grievous was very inadequately portrayed with the knowledge of the Clone Wars iteration still fresh in our minds. He was injured and incapacitated at the end of the Clone Wars cartoon though by Mace Windu using a force crush on his chest causing his coughing and wheezing throughout Episode III. But that shouldn't have effected his resolve and brutality any. I think he could have been a bit more menacing if there had been other Jedi present while Obi Wan was fighting Grievous and had slain them in the battle. Not only would that battle been more poignant, it would also have been more of a pivotal battle showing that Obi Wan needed Jedi assistance because Grievous was so difficult of an opponent and if he had not slain Grievous then, he would have been that much more dangerous of a character latter on when Vader came to power and hunted the rest of the Jedi.

Overall though I felt that the film was definitely a cut above the rest and it sits squarely in 3rd place behind ESB (2nd) and ANH (1st) in my book!

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Originally posted by: Darth Kraxus
I have to agree that most of what's been posted did make the film a bit less impactful, but I had some other problems as well:

-I felt that the way Mace Windu dies was a cheap way out and did nothing but reduce the character's powers and abilities, especially when you consider how long Emperor Palpatine fry's Luke in ROTJ and he survives. I think that we should have seen him thrown out of Palpatine's window and follow him down to a passing vehicle where he grabs on much like Anakin in AOTC. By having him escape like this they could have had a final confrontation on the bridge of Vader’s Star Destroyer and let everyone watch Vader kill Mace Windu there. Much more honorable to that awesome character and a more resounding ending to the film, showing Vader's complete confidence and domination of the Force.


i agree it could have been a bit more noble, but i dont know about grabbing a passing speeder. remember he lost his hand(s?). Also, unlike most people I dont think we really needed to see Vader kicking but in the suit. I think pre-mechanical Vader kicking butt is enough (could have been a bit more of that actually) but he has mastery of the force at that point, when he;s re-built that doenst increase his control over the force. Also, thinking about it, why exactly did Palpatine care that much to save Anakin. He let Maul die, he orchestrated Dooku's death, he let Grevious Die and actually told the Jedi where Grevious was. So why save Anakin. I mean, most of the Jedi have been wiped out, hes pretty much in power at that point, why does he still need Vader? only reason i can see is because he wasnt ready to replace him so didnt have a new apprentice picked out/ready to convert.

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-I thought that there was a scene with Obi Wan communing with Qui Gon, and now that I know that it exists I too am pissed that it wasn't shown in the film proper. It would more appropriately bridge the films and give us that much more insight into how Obi Wan vanishes into the force in ANH.


well the only scene i believe we have established has been cut is that of Yoda talking to Qui-Gon, I dont recall people saying there was actually a scene where Qui-Gon shows up or Obi-Wan talks to him.

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-For the record, it was never spoken in the film that Padme died of a broken heart! The line was, "We don't know why, but she's lost the will to live." I don't think that her death hurts the Leia line latter on about her mother because her memory was of a sad mother figure that she barely remembers, and that could just as easily be Bale Organa's wife she's remembering.


its clearly her real mother, not Mrs. Organa. this is clearly stated in ROTJ when Luke asks "Do you remember your mother? your real mother?" Also, broken heart, will to live, kinda the same thing. She gave up on life because of Anakins turn. However, the problem here is that the line the medic droid says not too much before the line you quoted is something along the lines of 'We're loosing her, there's nothing wrong, we cant explain it" then 2 seconds later they explain it as her haveing lost the will to live. Ok, so much for not being able to explain it.

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[Obi-Wan met Threepio. Watch A New Hope, Obi-Wan has no clue who Threepio is...but now he does.]

I disagree! He knows exactly who C-3PO is but is unwilling to divulge his knowledge because it would give Luke too many questions before he was ready to handle them. Also since C-3PO's memory was wiped it facilitates this much more fluidly. If you think about it, R2-D2 is doing the exact same thing and has been for 20 years or so at that point since his memory is still intact. He won't tell C-3PO who Leia is or where the message he is carrying came from.


totally agree here, yeah technically Ben lies to Luke, but its not viscious. He had to 'play dumb' so to speak so as not to confuse/scare Luke. as was said, Luke wouldnt have been able to handle all that.

Think about how Luke would react if Ben responded like this when Luke said that R2 'claims to be the property of some Obi-Wan Kenobi, do you know whats hes talking about?"

Ben: "Oh, R2. Hows it going, long time no see. Yeah, Luke, this droid actually belonged to your father before he turned to the Dark Side and became Darth Vader. He actually built the protocol droid R2 hangs out with too. But after he turned and his wife, your mom, died. Oh that was in child birth by the way, we gave the droids to Captain Antillies and had C-3PO's memory wiped. that was at the same time we sent you here to live with your uncle, and we sent your twin sister...oh, forgot, yeah, you have a twin sister who we seperated from you at birth and whos identity we kept hidden from you. Shes the one in the message, so get those nasty thoughts out of your head boy. Oh, before i forget, heres your Dad's lightsaber. I took it after i cut him in half and left him for dead on a volcanic planet. he was in pretty bad shape, but the emperor fixed him up with the mechanical body he has now...you know, maybe leaving him there wasnt the best idea in retrospect...oh well. Anyway, go pack your bags, you gotta learn the ways of the force and come with me so you can defeat your father."

The only time it really seems he 'forgot' something was when talking to Yoda about "that boy being our only hope" and Yoda said, "no, there is another" but maybe Ben just never considered that leia was strong in the force. I mean, she never exhibits any of its abilities like Luke (or Anakin in TPM) did.

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-And yes I felt that Grievous was very inadequately portrayed with the knowledge of the Clone Wars iteration still fresh in our minds. He was injured and incapacitated at the end of the Clone Wars cartoon though by Mace Windu using a force crush on his chest causing his coughing and wheezing throughout Episode III. But that shouldn't have effected his resolve and brutality any. I think he could have been a bit more menacing if there had been other Jedi present while Obi Wan was fighting Grievous and had slain them in the battle. Not only would that battle been more poignant, it would also have been more of a pivotal battle showing that Obi Wan needed Jedi assistance because Grievous was so difficult of an opponent and if he had not slain Grievous then, he would have been that much more dangerous of a character latter on when Vader came to power and hunted the rest of the Jedi.


i agree that the clone wars cartoons shouldnt be needed to explain Grevious' cough (forget who said that) but other than that i do htink grevious should have/could have been more bad ass.

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Overall though I felt that the film was definitely a cut above the rest and it sits squarely in 3rd place behind ESB (2nd) and ANH (1st) in my book!

-Darth Kraxus


I agree that it was a good movie, but I dont really know where id place it in my rank cause im not even sure how i would rank the IV, V, and VI individually. i was never any good at assigning ranks/number values to things.

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Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
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"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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Just saw Episode III and I'm vexed, terribly vexed. I honestly don't know if I hate the film or like it as a guilty pleasure. The film is a true oddity - a beautiful eyesore of overladen CGI, walking the fine line of campy and serious, chilling yet laughable, good and bad at the same time, no match for the original trilogy yet superior to TPM and AOTC.

Hmm... I agree Mace Windu's death needed more work, as did Christopher Lee's (but maybe he was fortunate to get it early on). First he practically wins by using his lightsaber to rebound Sidious's lightning back at him, turning him into the frog faced fiend we remember from ROTJ, then Anakin arrives, slices his hand off (what is it with George Lucas and cutting off hands?) and this buys Sidious enough time to fry him and send him hurtling to his death. Dying after an exhausting duel with Darth Vader would have been a better end to Mace.

The opening crawl starting with "War!" I think that might be the weakest crawl of all the films.

I actually don't mind the Frankenstein "NO!" when Vader gets off the morgue slab. What I hate is how small he looks. Why oh why did George Lucas let Hayden Christensen let wear the Vader suit? Why couldn't he just say no to punk? Standing in at a lanky 6'1", Hayden is too small to be a visually effective Vader. Stand Hayden next to someone like Samuel L. Jackson or Liam Neeson, who are like 6'3" and 6'4" respectively and probably outweigh Hayden by about 30-40 lbs, and you won't deny he looks like an ant compared to Jackson and Neeson. Where's David Prowse when you need him? For that matter, where's Kane Hodder, Ken Kirzinger and/or Daniel Cudmore?

This isn't so much a thing I hated as just a little footnote - in the opening, Ewan McGregor sounded a lot like C-3P0.

There was a little more love between Annie & Paddy, but not quite enough to make me believe that he turned to the Dark Side for her. Padme dying of grief was a bad cop out.

Why wasn't Obi-Wan in the last frame looking out silently at the twin suns with Uncle Owen & Aunt Beru? Not hate, just curious. Given that he's more or less the hero of the film you'd think he could have gotten in one last look of regret. To be honest, I think the girl they picked to play the young Aunt Beru looks more like Carrie Fisher than Natalie Portman does, but hey, I might be crazy. They could have spent more time trying to establish a relationship between Anakin, Owen and Beru.

Another thing that's more of a nitpick note than hate was the climax - not only did it remind me of Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, it reminded me of Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock. I half expected Anakin to cling to a cliff, trying to pull Obi-Wan down with him, with Obi-Wan kicking him in the face shouting "I... have had... enough of... YOU!" But I guess GL was going for a Dantes Inferno type thing, battling it out at the gates/pit of Hell/Underworld.

The Jedi got killed too easily by the clones.

Those damn anorexic daffy duck robots! And Jar Jar... no dialogue fortunately, but why did he have to even appear?

Obi-Wan letting Anakin melt... sure it's fun to watch him suffer after all that stilted whining, but wouldn't the humane thing for Obi-Wan to do be to just lop Anakin's head off and put him out of his misery? I know that would rob us of the old films, but it seemed a bit insensitive on Obi-Wan's part.

Still, it was better than the first two prequels.
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Here's what I didn't like:

Digital "super-artoo".
If he had rocket boosters built into his legs, why the fuck did he need to be lifted into Luke's X-wing by crane? And the bit where he caught Obi-Wan's comlink really made me cringe.

Digital Yoda
Should be reported for false benefit claims - that's the most fraudulent use of a walking stick ever. Not only did the puppet Yoda look more convincing, it also didn't have such an annoying speech impediment either. Imagine the RotJ death scene; "Another... Skywalker... There... ... I s.". Fuck that shit.

Battle Droids
Might as well have had a big "off" switch on their backs for all the use they were. Just big piles of junk waiting to be lightsabred, not threatening at all.

General Grievous
Who?

That fucking lizard thing
OK I'll admit that Tauntauns in TESB looked a bit crap. But at least the scenes in which they appeared were kept to a minimum.

Chewbacca's appearance
What a fucking waste of time.

Anakin's turn to the dark side
If fear, hate and anger lead to the dark side, then it would make sense to cast an actor who can fucking act these emotions wouldn't it George?

Anakin/Padme romantic dialogue
*shudder*

Obi-Wan/Anakin fight
If they were such good friends, why didn't Obi-wan try and turn him back from the dark side?

Hayden in the Vader suit
Nope, just didn't work for me.

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I dont see a problem with Portman not looking like carrie fisher, Luke and Leia are twins but your not complaining how they share no similarities in looks, why does Portman have to look exactly like her daughter?

yeah, i was kinda expecting the Anaking falling 'into' the lava thing and obi-wan thinking he was dead. at least at the time he left him. would explain why he didnt finish him off and/or save him.

as far as not trying to turn Anakin back to the light side, remember, even if ESB Yoda (so i would assume all the Jedi) assumed that once you went dark 'forever will it control your destiny'. It wasnt until Luke that anyone thought you can be turned back to the light.

I almost think that Yoda shouldnt have had a cane at all. That (maybe) should have been something he developed while on Dagobah, or maybe from his fight with Palps. Also, they did seem to force the 'Yoda talk' in the PT's making it seem unnatural. After watching the OT (mainly ESB cause he has the most dialogue there) he really doesnt speak all that abnormally while training/explaining things to Luke. The majority of his 'crazy' talk comes when he first approaches Luke and is testing him, when he's just acting like some crazy creature to test Luke's patience (also he probably went a little nuts from being on Dagobah all alone for so long) So that could almost have been a developed thing like the cane.

Kind of agree with the battle droid comment, yeah, they shouldnt really present much of a challenge for a Jedi, but it probably could have been a bit harder for them. Also, the Jedi definatly got wiped out by the Clones too easy. I mean the clones back up and let the Jedi get in front, then shoot them in the back and the Jedi didnt notice. Even non force adept people would turn to look when the speeders on your right and left fall back. And only like 2 of them actually put up any sort of fight, besides Yoda.

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"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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Here's what I didn't like:

Digital "super-artoo".
If he had rocket boosters built into his legs, why the fuck did he need to be lifted into Luke's X-wing by crane? And the bit where he caught Obi-Wan's comlink really made me cringe.


I agree- Absolute crap!

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Digital Yoda
Should be reported for false benefit claims - that's the most fraudulent use of a walking stick ever. Not only did the puppet Yoda look more convincing, it also didn't have such an annoying speech impediment either. Imagine the RotJ death scene; "Another... Skywalker... There... ... I s.". Fuck that shit.


Even in 'making of' features I can *feel* and *believe* that Yoda is alive in ESB and ROTJ. In TPM he looked worse than a toy from Wal-Mart and in the other two PT films he looks like a cartoon. Maybe they should have had Shrek play the role. And see my post elsewhere for a compare/contrast on Yoda-speak. More absolute crap!

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Battle Droids
Might as well have had a big "off" switch on their backs for all the use they were. Just big piles of junk waiting to be lightsabred, not threatening at all.


GL should have gone with this more powerful design for the Battle Droids:



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General Grievous
Who?


General Cereal Box and Action Figure sales, reporting for duty sir.... Roger, roger.

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That fucking lizard thing
OK I'll admit that Tauntauns in TESB looked a bit crap. But at least the scenes in which they appeared were kept to a minimum.


Look at me!!! I'm a CGI effect... Look at me some more!!!!!

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Chewbacca's appearance
What a fucking waste of time.


"I love you Chewie"
"Ri ruv ru roo, Roda"

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Anakin's turn to the dark side
If fear, hate and anger lead to the dark side, then it would make sense to cast an actor who can fucking act these emotions wouldn't it George?


Why, and stand out from the rest of the cast?... lol

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Anakin/Padme romantic dialogue
*shudder*


"I love you Padme"
"No I love you more little orphaned Annie"
"I love you Padme... wait, did I just say that? I must really mean it."
"Go kill me some women and children Annie... it turns me on."

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Obi-Wan/Anakin fight
If they were such good friends, why didn't Obi-wan try and turn him back from the dark side?


"You little fuckwad!!! Burn!!! Burn like a marshmallow!!! I don't care whether you die or not! I'm gonna steal your lightsaber and go shag your wife you worthless cardboard stiff!"

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Hayden in the Vader suit
Nope, just didn't work for me.


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Greeno's on fire.
"A Jedi can feel the force flow through him".
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Don't you mean "Gringo"?

"1. Why would Palpatine tell Vader he killed Padme? I just don't understand that."

As Palps said earlier, his anger focuses his power. Didn't you notice Palps smiling during this scene?

"I still think it would have been better if Padme had lived on so Leia could remember her."

I think it would have worked better if Padme had at least looked at Leia, instead of Luke.

"Cutting this line would have made it true that Anakin killed Padme."

In the film, it didn't matter if it were true - simply that Anakin believed it.

"#5) The voices of the battle droids and the Nemoidian in on Greivous' ship. Could they have been any less frightening?"

Agreed. They are battle droids, not protocol droids.

"Also, I was under the impression that the oil was spewing forth from the battle droid when R2 cut into it, and R2 Just used the shocker established in RotJ to ignite it."

Wrong on both counts. Note the "Oil slick arm compartment" on the upper right-hand side, and R2 most assuredly launched his rockets to ignite it.

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Ha i caught you there.


There's a boy i know called Noel Green (great guy) and everyone calls him "Greeno", if you have a problem take it out with him.
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You didn't catch anything. First of all, there was an emoticon ( ) indicating it was a joke, and there was a poster well before you who called Greedo "Gringo". People who have been here awhile will get the joke.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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You know...it might have been even smarter to just show the birth of Luke...not show Leia's birth, although it happens with a minute. That way, when future generations watch these movies in order, it would STILL be a shock to find out that Luke and Leia are twins. But I really, really have no clue how you could film that or script that. It could become one of those classic Legend of Zelda moments- "But Link, Zelda is your....!"
Which is the more foolish, the fool (the OT) or the fool who follows (the PT)?

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