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The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations — Page 3

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So, what's censored with Beauty & The Beast? I'm unfamiliar with this one.

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So what Laserdiscs are you all looking to track down and archive? Have you been able to test out your player yet?
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Haven't had any to test it as a LD player yet. As everything else, it works.

Right now, Mary Poppins - Lion King - Aladdin - Beauty and the Beast - can't remember if there's anything else they screwed with in the DVD era. Is there an OAR Fox and the Hound on laser? And if any of the lasers have the original RKO bumpers, for movies that had them, I might need to look into some of them. (The DVDs of Peter Pan and Alice have them.)

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I assume that since Fox and the Hound has only a 4:3 release on dvd twice, there's no widescreen laserdisc. People at Ultimate Disney are not sure what the original camera ratio is. Someone would have compared a widescreen laserdisc if it existed. Remember, a lot of the movies in the 60's and 70's were open matte.

So what is the aspect ratio of Mary Poppins? Are there any screenshot comparisons. I don't remember seeing anything about it on ultimate disney. Would the widescreen BatB laserdisc really go for less than 10?

So you're looking for a Song of the South dvd that is still in Pal? Because I thought someone here already got an untouched source (2 actually) and ran into trouble trying to convert it to NTSC.

What about preserving the original dvd of the Jungle Book since the new one is cropped to widescreen? This also applies to Robin Hood and Aristocats but the earlier versions of those are much easier to find.

One last thing, the original english dubs for Studio Ghibli on My Neighbor Totoro, Laputa: Castle in the Sky and I think Kiki's Delivery Service?

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Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
I assume that since Fox and the Hound has only a 4:3 release on dvd twice, there's no widescreen laserdisc. People at Ultimate Disney are not sure what the original camera ratio is. Someone would have compared a widescreen laserdisc if it existed. Remember, a lot of the movies in the 60's and 70's were open matte.

So what is the aspect ratio of Mary Poppins? Are there any screenshot comparisons. I don't remember seeing anything about it on ultimate disney. Would the widescreen BatB laserdisc really go for less than 10?

The AR of Mary Poppins is reported to be 1.66:1.

I *bought* the WS LD for BatB for less than $10 including shipping but I haven't gotten it yet.

So you're looking for a Song of the South dvd that is still in Pal? Because I thought someone here already got an untouched source (2 actually) and ran into trouble trying to convert it to NTSC.

If it's converted by speedup, then it's easy enough. If telecine...it's harder. Though I might be able to go through my contacts on IRC and find *someone* who can pull up a 24:25.

What about preserving the original dvd of the Jungle Book since the new one is cropped to widescreen? This also applies to Robin Hood and Aristocats but the earlier versions of those are much easier to find.


Also in my plans, though I'm not really going to bring that up here.

One last thing, the original english dubs for Studio Ghibli on My Neighbor Totoro, Laputa: Castle in the Sky and I think Kiki's Delivery Service?


I have OGMs of the first two; they're on DVD in Japan. There's also one for Porco Rosso, I believe, and I don't have that. Kiki's R2 has the Disney dub (don't ask).

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I know a friend of mine was especially dismayed in the fact the Aladdin sequels, which were direct to video and thus never screened in theaters, are matted into widescreen on the DVDs. Only the old VHS releases have the proper 1:33 aspect now. I don't think I've ever heard of giving a matte to something that never had it before and didn't run in theaters...
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WTF?

Well, looks like there's a LD of that, just in case...

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UD says Return of Jafar's intact but King of Thieves isn't (except in an early UK R2?)

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About Studio Ghibli. What does OGM stand for? The original English dub of My Neighbor Totoro was on a Fox vhs and DVD. The problem is the dvd is really no better than the vhs. It's interlaced, pan & scan and the original Japanese track is not included. I have the Fox vhs and the Disney dvd with the new dub (not as good as the old) but it would be nice to have them combined. I know the R2 Japan has the original dub for Laputa. According to IMDB, the original dub (for Kiki) was rare. Like only used for in flight movies or something.

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OGM - Ogg Media. It's a modified OGG format that can carry video streams. (I use it whenever I need more than one audio track on a video file. Both of those videos are dual-audio.)

The Japanese DVD of My Neighbor Totoro has the old dub, with "dubtitles", and the original Japanese audio, and is "gutterboxed" (I think it's anamorphic, can't remember).

And I've heard the same thing about Kiki. Stupid unobtanium. Didn't even make it to laser?

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drf sent me a very short piece of an avi he was downloading... it looks like the beginning of "Aladdin and the King of Thieves" from a Japanese DVD. It's off-aspect (720x480), but it appears to be a 4:3 source. There's an interesting bumper at the beginning that says "Disney Video Premiere". I don't have enough video to look any further into it.

EDIT: Confirmed - it's a 4:3 source, NTSC native, and all the credits are in English. The audio is Japanese. I can use this video source, if no better ones turn up.

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I'm doing some test work with Beauty and the Beast right now. Prolly not the best I can do, but it's more a smoketest than anything else.

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http://www.usotsuki.info/batbvhs1.jpg
VHS, brightened (originally ripped by drf)

http://www.usotsuki.info/batbld1.jpg
LD, no color adjustments (my rip)

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Artefacts are probably a result of compressing the image to a 42KB JPEG.

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How does the film look on LD? Do you have a screenshot of the DVD to compare?
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I have nothing from the DVD. :/

There seems to be a lot of VHS-like color noise on some parts of my capture but it could be because in a rush to hook up my system I plugged in the first video cable I could find (read: the worst video cable I could find).

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Setting correct black and white levels (adjusting brighness and contrast) will bring out the best in your captures.

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7712/bput6.jpg

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I tend to go "by eye".

I suppose settops have fixed brightness and contrast levels?

drf seemed to like his videos dark, can't imagine why (he's prolly never seen them any other way - he was too young to catch any of the movies in the theater.). He actually thought the DVD of Aladdin was way too bright merely because it didn't look as dark and dull as his VHS.

I'm uploading untouched sample clips from his VHS and my LD.

EDIT: Here they are 263 MB contains comparable samples from both rips (2:21 each)

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This post needs some context:

Originally posted by: Molly
http://www.usotsuki.info/batbvhs1.jpg
VHS, brightened (originally ripped by drf)

http://www.usotsuki.info/batbld1.jpg
LD, no color adjustments (my rip)


And #3...

http://www.usotsuki.info/batbdvd1.jpg
DVD cap provided by Mendinso

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Both drf and I are going to make DVDISOs out of my laser rip - we've got different ideas about how to go about it, and I like his idea, but I just want to make a barebones version. So prolly you'll see mine first, and his a bit after.

My plan is to create a barebones version, cleaned up a bit, scaled up to a 5:3 Anamorphic Widescreen (as opposed to 5:3 letterbox of the original), with the 2.0 ac3 from the settop.

What drf will probably do is take the R1, strip out the alternate versions, and replace the video track with my rip - dunno how well he'd be able to pull it off, though.

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Yawn. Beauty and the Beast OTV @ usotsuki.info:6969

This is a little bit of a cobjob but it's a first try.

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