The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 413

Jar Jar Bricks said:

But your point is proven wrong if you look at the whole sentence: “We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.” As in, she has to initiate the fight but they will help her when she does.

“but this is your fight” is not included in the video as I realized it is a contradiction for this edit. “We’ll always be with you.” works much better for foreshadowing than “A thousand generations live in you now, but this is your fight.” If it is Rey’s fight then why do ALL the Jedi show up at the end in spirit?

Jar Jar Bricks said:

No offense, Sherlock, but I completely dislike using that song there. It just makes me think of the people rising up montage and removes all of my emotional attachment to the current scene.

No offense taken; but I am confused why the music would remind you of that scene, considering an entirely different musical cue is used there…

And wait, even if it does remind you of that, doesn’t that connection make more sense than bringing up Yoda?? Your argument is basically, “Why would we forge a connection to something relevant to the film, when we already have a connection to something irrelevant to the film?”

I think the Rise of Skywalker Theme is only used three times in the original cut - when the trio sets out for Pasaana, at the beginning of the Lift X-Wing scene (before it drops out - my goal was to continue that through), and during the end reunion. When you look at the thematic tissue connecting those scenes, it seems like a natural fit to me to continue playing The Rise of Skywalker against the X-Wing.

DZ, I like it, but I still think the “thousand generations” should be mentioned for what they bring to the finale.

I think the best version of the scene would be:

“A thousand generations live in you now, but this is your fight.” “How do I get there?” “You have everything you need.”

In other words, cutting the “Take both sabers” line.

sherlockpotter said:

DZ, I like it, but I still think the “thousand generations” should be mentioned for what they bring to the finale.

I’m just thinking it would have been insane if the ghosts were in the theatrical cut without the foreshadowing. It would have been mindblowing in the theater. I guess my mindset is, “let that be a surprise for the audience without hinting about it”. Plus, there is already a small hint of it at the beginning of the film.

Awwwww! I wish I had my computers. Basically, I think it would work by taking out the “you’ll take both Saber to Exagol” and replace it with “We’ll always be with you”. Then move the “but this is your fight” after that line. It’ll take some work shifting the clip arrangement but that’ll work in many ways.

I’ll admit, I agree with Movies Remastered. I would have removed the line, “You’ll take both sabers to Exegol.” I think Rey should make the decision that Luke offers, that being Leia’s saber.

Really against the idea of changing the music during Luke’s X-Wing lift, I think the moment is perfect the way it is.

I never really understood force ghosts. The line “strike me down and I will be more powerful…” doesn’t really become anything. Force ghosts don’t really do much other than mentor. Yoda is the only one who interacts with the real world by burning the tree. Luke can’t even remove Leia’s Saber from the wall.

I feel the “this is your fight” is a line to give Rey a realisation that she’s the only one with enough power in the real world “the last jedi” to take on Palpatine. I’ve reused this line just as the force ghosts appear later to show this is Rey’s fight but they have her back when it comes to her having the strength to force push the final lightning blow, I’ve also rearranged the ghost scene so Luke sticks around to protect Rey from the blast after Palp dies.

The way it’s currently implemented in the Vimeo seems fine to me. But it seems just as fine without it. I really don’t care either way, which perhaps is all the more reason not to use it.

The fact that these dialogue things are in question now highlights the madness we’re currently in!

I think the scene is perfectly fine the way it is originally. I’m sorry for jerking everyone around, and I know I’m not the most decisive leader. Let’s section off this scene, mark it complete aside from the specific Vimeo change with the poll, and move further discussion to the general TROS ideas thread.

To be clear, I’ll abide by the poll results, but it’s between the original scene and the way it is in the clip with the single added line.

JEDIT: Can anyone confirm they voted YES but dislike the clip? If so, the poll isn’t clear and invalid.

I like the idea of adding the line, maybe based on what MR is suggesting. Just at the current state, doesn’t quite work. So I am voting yes, in principal, if it can be used … but not by this “test” clip.

I also like the idea too of removing the “take both sabers” line. On a personal note, it makes it better where it is REY choosing to take it, not being told to do it.

EDIT: plus, it is a nice … “mini surprise” when you see the saber lit up?

I too voted “Yes” for using the line but not in the context of the posted scene on Vimeo.

All right, well I’ll scrap the poll.

At this point I’ll plan not to alter the dialogue. Let’s move this to the general thread and see if anything comes of it there. I don’t think these changes are necessary.

Okay. This is how I think the scene would best play out.

“A thousand generations live in you now. We’ll always be with you… but this is your fight.”

Completely remove Luke telling Rey to take both sabers with her, which I wasn’t the biggest fan of the line. I think Rey should make that decision herself, rather than being told to by Luke. Very much like how in your edit of Episode II, you removed Mace Windu instructing Anakin to talk to Palpatine about taking Padmé back to Naboo, in order to make Anakin come off as competent and mature. Leia’s saber is something Luke is offering to her, feeling Leia would give it to her at some point when she was alive.

You guys made me unpack my computer for THIS!!! haha.

The line was in stereo so I had to export it to audition and convert it to mono for it to sound right. If anyone knows how to do this within premiere please let me know. Also, have to do the same with “This is your fight” and denoise the soundtrack to clean it up.

I still wanna tweak the shot timings but I think this works well. https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1417183/action/topic#1417183