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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 367

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It’s definitely been attempted but Idk if any attempt was ever finished.

You’re onto something with the search feature, though. We should really have a database of all edited material to draw from.

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Peter Pan said:

Good idea, it actually references “the mistake of Naboo”. I think the whole scene will take a while for me to complete, but the audio is mostly finished. The only thing still missing is Dooku introducing himself, but I could upload what I have so far.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Mqt9MeF9mr08sP-wQAHjMqGHJSuidcuf/view?usp=sharing

Finally got around to finish the scene. I must say I am disappointed in how it turned out, granted some of the masking is a little off, but the bigger problem remains and that is the quality of the original footage.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OMsP2KD0VSQV9rX3FQLquF_wAg55q8Ve/view?usp=share_link

The idea with this scene was to lay the ground for an edit that pushes the Kaminoans and the droid founders into a more active role. They hire Fett to disturb Padmé’s work (not kill her, explaining the stupid bugs). He also purposefully sets Obi-Wan on his tail, which will be emphasized by adding a shot of him preparing the toxic dart after meeting with Zam. Dooku and the separatist will play a more reactive role, they will only acquire the droid army as a reaction to the rising tension with the republic, much like padmé predicts during her meeting with he queen.

“Vader! Hologram, now!”

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I couldn’t understand a word of Dooku’s hologram nor why it’s present in the first place. Can’t he just be watching?

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The Hologram is there to throw a bad light on Padmé and Dooku is there to show that he has nothing to do with Jango’s actions.

“Vader! Hologram, now!”

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I wonder if we could add a line to AOTC that indicates that Anakin was staying in contact with Shmi through Palpatine, possibly without the knowledge of the Jedi. It would explain Anakin’s strong friendship with Palpatine and Anakin would already harbor a secret from the Jedi, long before his relationship with Padmé.

Thankfully we can dub Palpatine during their scene in AOTC without paying attention to lip-sync due to the lighting of the scene. However I struggle to splice together a conversation that works.

Maybe with an AI voice or a talented voice actor something similar to this could work:

Palpy: “…and so they have finally given you an assignment. Your mother would be proud.”
Anakin: “Have you spoken to her lately?”
Palpy: “Last I heard of her was two months ago, she told me Owen proposed to Beru, they are getting wed next year. Oh and your droid is continuing to scold about the jundland winds, hehe, she wanted me to ask you how to deactivate his vocal unit … It really is a shame that the Jedi won’t let you talk to her.”

“Vader! Hologram, now!”

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Looking back at that scene, I think you could get away with some dialogue changes in those final few wide shots of their conversation.

I think if you established Palpatine has been the intermediary between Anakin and his mother, I guess you would have to make it so he already knows she is living at the Lars homestead? So you would have to cut the Watto scene, unless he decides to go to Watto to find out where the Lars homestead is.

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He could mention that they were experiencing trouble with a tribe of sand people, the last time he spoke to her.

In my head canon they brought 3PO along to negotiate with them, but being the insensitive piece of scrap metal that he is he insulted the chieftain and made everything worse.

“Vader! Hologram, now!”

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Peter Pan said:

He could mention that they were experiencing trouble with a tribe of sand people, the last time he spoke to her.

In my head canon they brought 3PO along to negotiate with them, but being the insensitive piece of scrap metal that he is he insulted the chieftain and made everything worse.

Wait are you trying to fix the Owen and beru line in a new hope if so this is a great way to fix it if possible.

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Sirius said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

I disagree.

Well, I believe the majority of the fanbase would prefer Anakin saying something about giving his saber to his child in Episode III. Any attempt that sucessfully manage to make this work in a fan edit is generally well received, since this increase Anakin’s character.

Besides that, the fact that this Obi-Wan line isn’t adressed in any way before or after he said it, in any movie, just make this fact weird. Why the lie about Vader killing Anakin is adressed in ROTJ and that one, not? The audience then presupposes that that one is a fact, and then after ROTS we discover that the whole story about Anakin giving his saber to his child is just one more lie from Obi-Wan. This just makes we question how many more lies Ben told in the movies, a man who was supposedly meant to be a honorable jedi…

One way would be to have Vader fight with a red saber and have Obi-Wan get the blue one from Padme and manufacture a line from her saying he wanted it for the child.

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In ROTS, Anakin also has a vision of himself burning on Mustafar. From here, the audience will be able to tell he doesn’t want to cheat death just to save Padme, but also himself.

I’ve recently come to really like this idea of Anakin craving immortality, especially since it creates a retroactive arc with Vader accepting his death in ROTJ.

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Anakin is knighted in the middle of AOTC when the Jedi give him the assignment to look over Padme.

This gives Anakin a more mature, independent role through more of the trilogy, so you don’t have to wait until episode 3 for him to not be such an underling anymore. It might also make Obi-Wan’s concerns that Anakin isn’t ready more sympathetic. I think a major problem with AOTC is that you don’t really emotionally connect to either Anakin or Obi-Wan, our two protagonists, and by doing this is makes the audience feel like Obi-Wan has more of a point.

The only issue is it’d require removing the padawan braid from a lot of shots which would be extremely tedious and painful.

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G&G-Fan said:

Anakin is knighted in the middle of AOTC when the Jedi give him the assignment to look over Padme.

This gives Anakin a more mature, independent role through more of the trilogy, so you don’t have to wait until episode 3 for him to not be such an underling anymore. It might also make Obi-Wan’s concerns that Anakin isn’t ready more sympathetic. I think a major problem with AOTC is that you don’t really emotionally connect to either Anakin or Obi-Wan, our two protagonists, and by doing this is makes the audience feel like Obi-Wan has more of a point.

The only issue is it’d require removing the padawan braid from a lot of shots which would be extremely tedious and painful.

I’m attempting something like this, only Anakin would be knighted at the end of the film.

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Attack of the Clones: Alternate Timeline Edit Thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SSWRs-Attack-of-the-Clones-Alternate-Timeline-Edit/id/66888

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SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

I’m attempting something like this, only Anakin would be knighted at the end of the film.

This is a very different concept tho, the idea here is that he’d end up being a knight for most of the movie.

This is to sort of minimize the issue of Anakin being too young through most of the trilogy.

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Hiventon shared this over on Octorox’s thread and wanted to talk about it a little here.

hinventon said:

Since we’re discussing AOTC edits and new editions has anybody thought about including this extended Jango death scene? Only a slight difference but I would love to see this in one of these new edits with the training scene.

https://youtu.be/5Gbh08F061A

EDIT: Including the flashback shot of boba holding the helmet from BoBF might be cool too.

The vfx work on this clip is pretty impressive, but one downside to it is that it doesn’t really alleviate the issue Nev (and maybe others) brought up about how Windu was one of the people who wanted this guy captured alive in order to be interrogated about his employer, yet here we see him literally go overkill.

I had imagined a version of this scene where, instead of Windu slicing him up, we adjusted Windu’s strikes to make it look like his saber just keeps bouncing off his beskar armor, then right before Windu cuts his head off, we could add a flamethrower effect to the shot to make it look like Jango was about to use it on Windu again, forcing Windu to just kill him. Unless Windu just didn’t realize that HE was the bounty hunter they were looking for.

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Tantive3+1 said:

Should Yoda be a present character within the prequels?

I feel that removing him from the PT preserves the revelation in TESB of who Yoda really is.

But removing him entirely would contradict ESB itself, since Yoda clearly states that Anakin was a powerful Jedi. How could he even knew that if he wasn’t part of the Prequels and never knew Anakin?

“Sometimes we must let go of our pride, and do what is requested to us.”
– Anakin Skywalker

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Tantive3+1 said:

Should Yoda be a present character within the prequels?

I feel that removing him from the PT preserves the revelation in TESB of who Yoda really is.

Personally, given that the prequels are best seen after ESB (either in Machete Order or release order), I don’t see the point. And I think pretty much everyone on Earth knows what Yoda looks like at this point anyways. 😉

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Tantive3+1 said:

Should Yoda be a present character within the prequels?

I feel that removing him from the PT preserves the revelation in TESB of who Yoda really is.

First of all, you should be watching the OT first, and second of all, the Yoda reveal frankly works better when you know he’s Yoda.